American Politics Thread 2013: I'm a cool Rodham grandma in the USA

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just read a cool thing in Amy Davidson's manning trial column about the prosecution displaying a self-portrait manning took of himself cross-dressing, seems p cool, just dropping this in there for some colour, nbd

szarkasm (schlump), Tuesday, 30 July 2013 13:51 (ten years ago) link

Verdict expected today.

http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-07-26/national/40863033_1_mobile-information-collection-unit-ashden-fein-david-coombs

Coombs also countered one of prosecutor Fein’s arguments that attempted to show Manning was seeking fame: A photo Manning took of himself, smiling in front of a mirror while on leave in Maryland. Fein said it showed a “gleeful, grinning” Manning who was proud to have leaked documents and be “on his way to notoriety” he wanted.

Coombs asked the judge to take a closer look at the photo, pointing out that Manning was wearing makeup and a bra.

“What you see is a young man who is cross-dressing,” Coombs said as Manning’s face tightened slightly in a pained look.“Maybe, just maybe ... he is happy to be himself for that moment,” Coombs said of Manning’s struggle to fit into the military at a time he was confused about his gender identity and serving openly was illegal for gays.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 14:09 (ten years ago) link

too many obv (this fucker treeship i swear) but still - james carville?

― balls, Tuesday, July 30, 2013 4:58 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You got a problem with me, Mr. Testicles?

waterface, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 14:40 (ten years ago) link

Oh wait that says Treeship not Waterface

waterface, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 14:40 (ten years ago) link

I'm so used to everyone hating on me I assumed it was about me

waterface, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 14:41 (ten years ago) link

I'm So Vain

waterface, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 14:41 (ten years ago) link

see, James Carville ref = wawaface is an antiquated DNC fuckface

i'll be on I Love Baseball

playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 July 2013 14:41 (ten years ago) link

Porbably thing tahta post is about me

waterface, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 14:41 (ten years ago) link

YAY

waterface, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 14:41 (ten years ago) link

Dr Pigface has left the building, oink oink

waterface, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 14:41 (ten years ago) link

I should change my name to fuckface

waterface, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 14:43 (ten years ago) link

i thought the joke was that waterface watches cnn

That would be funny but no

waterface, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 14:48 (ten years ago) link

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/judge-to-announce-verdict-in-bradley-manning-case-today/2013/07/29/e894a75c-f897-11e2-afc1-c850c6ee5af8_story.html?hpid=z1

An Army judge on Tuesday acquitted Pfc. Bradley Manning of aiding the enemy by disclosing a trove of secret U.S. government documents, a striking rebuke to military prosecutors who argued that the largest leak in U.S. history had assisted al-Qaeda.

The judge, Col. Denise Lind, found Manning guilty of most of the more than 20 crimes he was charged with. She also acquitted him of one count of the espionage act that stemmed from his leak of a video that depicted a fatal U.S. military airstrike in Farah, Afghanistan

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 17:38 (ten years ago) link

some good news out of that, strangely.

R'LIAH (goole), Tuesday, 30 July 2013 17:41 (ten years ago) link

Had Manning been convicted of aiding the enemy, Manning would have faced a life sentence in prison without the possibility of parole. Civil libertarians saw the prospect of a conviction on that charge, which has not been used since the Civil War, as a dangerous precedent that could have would have sent an unmistakable message to would-be government whistle-blowers.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 17:43 (ten years ago) link

that could have would have

Washington Post writer in a hurry to get this posted

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 17:44 (ten years ago) link

in theory i guess any whistle-blower is 'aiding the enemy' by making anything about america look less than awesome

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 30 July 2013 17:48 (ten years ago) link

Prosecutors had to prove Army Pfc. Bradley Manning had "a general evil intent" and knew the classified material would be seen by the terrorist group Al Qaeda.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 17:56 (ten years ago) link

"shoulda coulda" is the preferred usage, right?

on fire after blowout in gulf (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 30 July 2013 18:50 (ten years ago) link

"coulda woulda", sorry

on fire after blowout in gulf (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 30 July 2013 18:51 (ten years ago) link

Republicans and the White House both agree on proposals to cut Social Security known as chained CPI, referring to reduced payments to beneficiaries because of how annual cost-of-living adjustments are calculated. And the two sides seem to be on the same page regarding reducing benefits that wealthy seniors now receive from entitlement programs, a proposal known as means testing.

But the White House wants new taxes in exchange for those entitlement cuts, something at which the GOP continues to balk.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/07/is-the-grand-bargain-out-of-reach-94890.html?hp=f2

Seriously, thank you GOP for killing this bad bargain

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 20:20 (ten years ago) link

our media:

https://twitter.com/BrettLoGiurato/status/362318301382180866

R'LIAH (goole), Tuesday, 30 July 2013 21:17 (ten years ago) link

Back In Texas...

Uncle Cyril O'Boogie (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 31 July 2013 04:20 (ten years ago) link

damn

that made me so mad i almost went nativist on the motherfucker

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 31 July 2013 05:27 (ten years ago) link

did not work, as far as I can tell.

how's life, Wednesday, 31 July 2013 09:41 (ten years ago) link

Toobin and Greenwald go at it (get your mind out of the gutter)

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 July 2013 14:59 (ten years ago) link

cool buzzfeed/heritage foundation team-up: http://www.buzzfeed.com/heritagefoundation/that-one-time-i-was-really-really-excited-about-o-cteg

chinavision!, Wednesday, 31 July 2013 15:37 (ten years ago) link

Lawmakers on Capitol Hill in Washington are getting ready for a four-week break, followed by a September in which House Republicans have only scheduled nine days of work for the entire month, and they're leaving quite a to-do list behind. Four of the 12 appropriations bills that have to pass before the end of the fiscal year are being ignored; the farm bill is stuck; immigration reform is demanding attention; and a debt-ceiling crisis looms.

http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/07/31/19797380-what-a-governing-allergy-looks-like

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 31 July 2013 17:00 (ten years ago) link

oh they're hella busy fundraising, right?

R'LIAH (goole), Wednesday, 31 July 2013 17:07 (ten years ago) link

Of course.

The Senate approved all five NLRB appointments yesterday. That was the good news-- Reid's threats to go nuclear paid off at least in the short-term.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 31 July 2013 17:23 (ten years ago) link

Jesus I thought they were already 'off' the whole summer?

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 31 July 2013 17:50 (ten years ago) link

off their meds

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 July 2013 17:54 (ten years ago) link

August! When not only congress is on vacation, but also most of the rest of DC, leaving the town to deranged tourists who for some reason thought visiting a swamp in August was a good idea. (I'm a bit homesick.)

しるび (silby), Friday, 2 August 2013 02:11 (ten years ago) link

Its a tad cooler than usual though for some reason

curmudgeon, Friday, 2 August 2013 14:25 (ten years ago) link

i'll take it

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 2 August 2013 16:50 (ten years ago) link

srsly though, this time ... benghazi!!!

the late great, Saturday, 3 August 2013 04:45 (ten years ago) link

i don't get why people are suddenly talking about this CIA gun running thing, we knew this in the spring

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 3 August 2013 22:01 (ten years ago) link

Benghazi
Ben-e-e-e-h-ghazzii
no no no no
he only wants to impress youuu

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 3 August 2013 22:08 (ten years ago) link

Another Monday with my brother on furlough (every Monday for awhile), Republicans repeating cliches to their constituents and promises to lobbyists, Congressional Dems confused, and the Prez pushing his "moderate" "compromises"

curmudgeon, Monday, 5 August 2013 15:00 (ten years ago) link

I have been reading "This Town" and Joan Walsh comes away with an obvious (and unsurprising) conclusion about why people might possibly be cynical:

http://www.salon.com/2013/08/05/ka_ching_we_can_believe_in/

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Monday, 5 August 2013 19:26 (ten years ago) link

Joan Walsh goes very well with "obvious (and unsurprising)"

Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Monday, 5 August 2013 19:32 (ten years ago) link

Why are some folks surprised about Messina, former longtime aide to Max Baucus (before Messina joined the White House) deciding to make big bucks with the Conservative Brits --

2011 article in The Nation

http://www.thenation.com/article/159577/jim-messina-obamas-enforcer#axzz2b7vDKgpM

As a former chief of staff to Baucus and deputy to Emanuel, Messina has clashed with progressive activists and grassroots Obama supporters both inside and outside Washington over political strategy and on issues like healthcare reform and gay rights, alienating parts of the very constituencies that worked so hard for Obama in 2008 and that the campaign needs to reinspire and activate in 2012. Obama’s fixer has arguably created as many problems as he’s solved.

curmudgeon, Monday, 5 August 2013 20:08 (ten years ago) link

Barry Crimmins ‏@crimmins
Former Obama campaign manager #JimMessia now working for Brit Tories. It's a lateral move.

Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Monday, 5 August 2013 20:19 (ten years ago) link

Why is anyone surprised that anyone in the Obama administration would reneg on their "no ego, no glory" memo?

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Monday, 5 August 2013 20:21 (ten years ago) link

some of my dyed in the wool OFA buddies are just so backstabbed about messina and it's sort of frustrating to watch

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 5 August 2013 20:26 (ten years ago) link

Obama Cancels Meeting With Putin Amid Tension Over Snowden
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324522504578653791984020314.html

Not sure I think this is a good move.

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 13:47 (ten years ago) link

hey at least he waited til his 2nd term to be Jimmy Carter after doing Dubya in his 1st.

Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 14:01 (ten years ago) link


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