American Politics Thread 2013: I'm a cool Rodham grandma in the USA

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in theory i guess any whistle-blower is 'aiding the enemy' by making anything about america look less than awesome

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 30 July 2013 17:48 (ten years ago) link

Prosecutors had to prove Army Pfc. Bradley Manning had "a general evil intent" and knew the classified material would be seen by the terrorist group Al Qaeda.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 17:56 (ten years ago) link

"shoulda coulda" is the preferred usage, right?

on fire after blowout in gulf (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 30 July 2013 18:50 (ten years ago) link

"coulda woulda", sorry

on fire after blowout in gulf (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 30 July 2013 18:51 (ten years ago) link

Republicans and the White House both agree on proposals to cut Social Security known as chained CPI, referring to reduced payments to beneficiaries because of how annual cost-of-living adjustments are calculated. And the two sides seem to be on the same page regarding reducing benefits that wealthy seniors now receive from entitlement programs, a proposal known as means testing.

But the White House wants new taxes in exchange for those entitlement cuts, something at which the GOP continues to balk.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/07/is-the-grand-bargain-out-of-reach-94890.html?hp=f2

Seriously, thank you GOP for killing this bad bargain

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 20:20 (ten years ago) link

our media:

https://twitter.com/BrettLoGiurato/status/362318301382180866

R'LIAH (goole), Tuesday, 30 July 2013 21:17 (ten years ago) link

Back In Texas...

Uncle Cyril O'Boogie (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 31 July 2013 04:20 (ten years ago) link

damn

that made me so mad i almost went nativist on the motherfucker

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 31 July 2013 05:27 (ten years ago) link

did not work, as far as I can tell.

how's life, Wednesday, 31 July 2013 09:41 (ten years ago) link

Toobin and Greenwald go at it (get your mind out of the gutter)

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 July 2013 14:59 (ten years ago) link

cool buzzfeed/heritage foundation team-up: http://www.buzzfeed.com/heritagefoundation/that-one-time-i-was-really-really-excited-about-o-cteg

chinavision!, Wednesday, 31 July 2013 15:37 (ten years ago) link

Lawmakers on Capitol Hill in Washington are getting ready for a four-week break, followed by a September in which House Republicans have only scheduled nine days of work for the entire month, and they're leaving quite a to-do list behind. Four of the 12 appropriations bills that have to pass before the end of the fiscal year are being ignored; the farm bill is stuck; immigration reform is demanding attention; and a debt-ceiling crisis looms.

http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/07/31/19797380-what-a-governing-allergy-looks-like

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 31 July 2013 17:00 (ten years ago) link

oh they're hella busy fundraising, right?

R'LIAH (goole), Wednesday, 31 July 2013 17:07 (ten years ago) link

Of course.

The Senate approved all five NLRB appointments yesterday. That was the good news-- Reid's threats to go nuclear paid off at least in the short-term.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 31 July 2013 17:23 (ten years ago) link

Jesus I thought they were already 'off' the whole summer?

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 31 July 2013 17:50 (ten years ago) link

off their meds

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 July 2013 17:54 (ten years ago) link

August! When not only congress is on vacation, but also most of the rest of DC, leaving the town to deranged tourists who for some reason thought visiting a swamp in August was a good idea. (I'm a bit homesick.)

しるび (silby), Friday, 2 August 2013 02:11 (ten years ago) link

Its a tad cooler than usual though for some reason

curmudgeon, Friday, 2 August 2013 14:25 (ten years ago) link

i'll take it

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 2 August 2013 16:50 (ten years ago) link

srsly though, this time ... benghazi!!!

the late great, Saturday, 3 August 2013 04:45 (ten years ago) link

i don't get why people are suddenly talking about this CIA gun running thing, we knew this in the spring

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 3 August 2013 22:01 (ten years ago) link

Benghazi
Ben-e-e-e-h-ghazzii
no no no no
he only wants to impress youuu

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 3 August 2013 22:08 (ten years ago) link

Another Monday with my brother on furlough (every Monday for awhile), Republicans repeating cliches to their constituents and promises to lobbyists, Congressional Dems confused, and the Prez pushing his "moderate" "compromises"

curmudgeon, Monday, 5 August 2013 15:00 (ten years ago) link

I have been reading "This Town" and Joan Walsh comes away with an obvious (and unsurprising) conclusion about why people might possibly be cynical:

http://www.salon.com/2013/08/05/ka_ching_we_can_believe_in/

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Monday, 5 August 2013 19:26 (ten years ago) link

Joan Walsh goes very well with "obvious (and unsurprising)"

Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Monday, 5 August 2013 19:32 (ten years ago) link

Why are some folks surprised about Messina, former longtime aide to Max Baucus (before Messina joined the White House) deciding to make big bucks with the Conservative Brits --

2011 article in The Nation

http://www.thenation.com/article/159577/jim-messina-obamas-enforcer#axzz2b7vDKgpM

As a former chief of staff to Baucus and deputy to Emanuel, Messina has clashed with progressive activists and grassroots Obama supporters both inside and outside Washington over political strategy and on issues like healthcare reform and gay rights, alienating parts of the very constituencies that worked so hard for Obama in 2008 and that the campaign needs to reinspire and activate in 2012. Obama’s fixer has arguably created as many problems as he’s solved.

curmudgeon, Monday, 5 August 2013 20:08 (ten years ago) link

Barry Crimmins ‏@crimmins
Former Obama campaign manager #JimMessia now working for Brit Tories. It's a lateral move.

Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Monday, 5 August 2013 20:19 (ten years ago) link

Why is anyone surprised that anyone in the Obama administration would reneg on their "no ego, no glory" memo?

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Monday, 5 August 2013 20:21 (ten years ago) link

some of my dyed in the wool OFA buddies are just so backstabbed about messina and it's sort of frustrating to watch

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 5 August 2013 20:26 (ten years ago) link

Obama Cancels Meeting With Putin Amid Tension Over Snowden
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324522504578653791984020314.html

Not sure I think this is a good move.

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 13:47 (ten years ago) link

hey at least he waited til his 2nd term to be Jimmy Carter after doing Dubya in his 1st.

Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 14:01 (ten years ago) link

oh shit i missed it are we boycotting sochi?

on fire after blowout in gulf (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 14:32 (ten years ago) link

I'd go with 65-70% likely now, howbout you?

Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 14:52 (ten years ago) link

i trust the Olympics-industrial machine will crush this issue before it comes to that

Nhex, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 15:01 (ten years ago) link

Things are looking -- very slightly -- optimistic:

When White House aides talk up Summers, it is usually in the context of his relationship with Obama during the darkest days of the Great Recession, shaping policies Obama believes saved the country from another depression. That relationship is real and meaningful. But Summers did not anticipate the Great Recession, and some believe his advocacy for an end to Glass-Steagall helped set it in motion. Top administration officials disagree, but Obama’s criteria appears clear: seeing a crisis before it strikes and dealing with Fed policy outside of its historically abstract sandbox. If you place the Summers-versus-Yellen campaigning aside, and take Obama's own words at face value, he's leaning toward Yellen.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 August 2013 23:27 (ten years ago) link

god let us dream he's leaning towards yellen

balls, Friday, 9 August 2013 02:07 (ten years ago) link

Mitch McConnel's chief negotiator is leaving his post.

“If you have to do business with the dark side, it’s better to negotiate with an evil genius than with someone who only knows how to say no and doesn’t understand the details,” the official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to offer a candid assessment.

Kumar is “negotiating on behalf of an irrational, unpredictable crowd, and he likes to run out the clock, which is a dangerous combination. But to his credit, he never wanted to let the clock strike midnight and the world to blow up,” the official said.

i too went to college (silby), Friday, 9 August 2013 02:26 (ten years ago) link

no lie the howls from the goldbug alpha zerohedge bro zone at seeing a woman in charge of the cental bank would carry me through another 3 administrations at least

R'LIAH (goole), Friday, 9 August 2013 13:40 (ten years ago) link

lol otm

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Friday, 9 August 2013 14:12 (ten years ago) link

TPM worries McConnell's primary and election woes could shut the gubbmint down again. He overstates McConnell's sanity.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2013/08/how_mcconnells_woes_could_blow_up_washington.php?ref=fpblg

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 August 2013 15:07 (ten years ago) link

mcconnell even being in trouble is still amazing to me

R'LIAH (goole), Friday, 9 August 2013 15:12 (ten years ago) link

goldbug alpha zerohedge bro zone

perfect

joe sixpac hologram (Hunt3r), Friday, 9 August 2013 15:23 (ten years ago) link

so even if turtlemang gets primaried, there's absolutely no way Grimes takes this, right? iirc KY has a blue streak that TN, MS, SC , AL et al don't, but that's cold comfort these days

|citation needed| (will), Friday, 9 August 2013 15:39 (ten years ago) link

hard not to feel schaudenfreude for blobfish

joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 August 2013 15:40 (ten years ago) link

hopefully these 'gop gains seats in 2014' memes will be reversed by the candidates being total fucking nutjobs courtesy of the primaries

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 9 August 2013 17:16 (ten years ago) link

xps just from an outsider's pov, Grimes looks like a formidable candidate. Blobfish gets primaried, she get an opponent that's even more of a loon, and she could squeak out a victory.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 9 August 2013 17:21 (ten years ago) link

and then who would be minority leader?

joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 August 2013 17:25 (ten years ago) link


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