just looked at the scorecard at lunch. 36/4 from 18 overs. the scores of cook and vaughan total 22 runs from 33 balls, which means the rest of the sorry crew have made 12 runs from just under 13 overs. A run an over???
fraser's comments are spot on: england would never have declared as vettori did. they'd have waited until about 3 balls before tea, just in case mccullum hit 50 sixes in a row.
― whatever, Sunday, 9 March 2008 00:02 (sixteen years ago) link
Do colly and bell have the bottle to survive? Better in this situation than KP and co but that doesn't mean anything.
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 9 March 2008 00:09 (sixteen years ago) link
they'll survive for the best part of an hour or so, in the english way. i'd be very surprised if the match goes into the final session, once the spinners get into their ribs and there are 4 or 5 around the bat.
funny how these things cycle. england outclassed at rugby today, being outclassed at cricket in a country where they probably expected to win, and going through transition in football. contrast to a few years ago: rugby world cup holders, ashes winners, rooney breaking into the england team...
― whatever, Sunday, 9 March 2008 00:12 (sixteen years ago) link
Well, as a scotsman I enjoyed the rugby at least :) The cricket was sadly more predictable.
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 9 March 2008 00:20 (sixteen years ago) link
As a working class Englishman living oop North I enjoyed the rugby.
― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 9 March 2008 00:21 (sixteen years ago) link
You enjoy England getting beat at anything, Jim.
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 9 March 2008 00:23 (sixteen years ago) link
Nah, the cricket is painful. But they've lost the plot big time, and I'm not a fan of Vaughan nowadays.
― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 9 March 2008 00:25 (sixteen years ago) link
explain the class ref?
― whatever, Sunday, 9 March 2008 00:30 (sixteen years ago) link
as in, how it is important in terms of the sport?
in the meantime, collingwood: 0 runs, 30 balls. should be zero balls, no fkg fight.
― whatever, Sunday, 9 March 2008 00:32 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't care for Rugby Union cos I've too many hoorays are into it. In fact Guscott came out with a classic bit of twattery midweek when they dropped that dude for going clubbing - he said something along the lines of that behaviour not being good enough for Rugby players, but you'd expect it of footballers. Cock.
― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 9 March 2008 00:36 (sixteen years ago) link
"cos I've known too many hoorays who are into it", I mean.
fairdos. i'm not a hooray, or a northerner (altho i live in mcr), but i like both codes but prefer union. i think i like contested scrums more than uncontested. but i like the rigidity of fixed numbers of tackles in league, although that leads to a sterility in terms of lack of depth of player size/beef/athleticism. league is homogenised rugby, union still has the cream separated at the top of the bottle.
just getting at: why is rugby cursed with class? football isn't (although the moneyed types are trying to make it that way).
― whatever, Sunday, 9 March 2008 00:41 (sixteen years ago) link
League is nothing in Scotland. We like Union.
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 9 March 2008 00:43 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't think Union is a class signifier outside of England, hardly. I don't dislike watching Union matches, tho I far prefer League which to me is a way faster, more beautiful game to watch. I just hate the England team and their smug, Daily Mail reading, management book co-writing players.
― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 9 March 2008 00:46 (sixteen years ago) link
Oh i dunno, lots of posh people play rugby. But when it comes to the national team no-one cares as if they can beat England then it's good enough for them. It was one of the few sports we were good at.
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 9 March 2008 00:52 (sixteen years ago) link
collingwood's gone. 2 runs from 50 balls.
― whatever, Sunday, 9 March 2008 00:55 (sixteen years ago) link
Collingwood lbw Vettori 2 (Eng 59-5) xpost
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 9 March 2008 00:56 (sixteen years ago) link
i know, it's just i'm not smug and don't read the daily mail, but i prefer union etc etc. talking to my wife's uncle in keighley the other day, he used to report on league for the local papers. an avowed league man, had ended up watching the england france union game a couple of weeks ago. "and that constant rucking at the end of the game, that leaves me cold", whereas there was me feeling england had ground out the victory.
― whatever, Sunday, 9 March 2008 00:57 (sixteen years ago) link
herman, i think what fuels english union fans is the knowledge that all the other home/euro nations have made their season if they stuff the english. it makes me (as an england supporter) feel like a man utd supporter (which i bloody ain't). but when it got to the last 10 minutes in murrayfield today i had to go to the kitchen to start cooking the kids' steaks. that horrible, hollow feeling.
― whatever, Sunday, 9 March 2008 01:00 (sixteen years ago) link
No fucking chance of england grounding out anything in cricket. I should've learned by now really, yet I put myself through it all the time. The ashes is such a distant memory now. x-post
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 9 March 2008 01:01 (sixteen years ago) link
(Eng 60-7)
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 9 March 2008 01:02 (sixteen years ago) link
and xxxxxpost, no posh people play league.
i can't get over uncontested scrums: if you don't contest them why bother locking down? why not just have a tap free kick with the opposition having to be 5 yards?
― whatever, Sunday, 9 March 2008 01:02 (sixteen years ago) link
for fucking 7?????? (xp)
at least we're up to 2 runs an over...
― whatever, Sunday, 9 March 2008 01:04 (sixteen years ago) link
67-8
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 9 March 2008 01:32 (sixteen years ago) link
Bells got us over 100 at least
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 9 March 2008 02:18 (sixteen years ago) link
110 all out. A fucking shambles.
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 9 March 2008 02:35 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't think Union is a class signifier outside of England, hardly.
A kind of relevant article I read yesterday: http://www.smh.com.au/news/sport/its-a-crime-how-footy-heroes-go-bad/2008/03/07/1204780065538.html
Also It's pleasing the NRL season starts next week :):):)
― W4LTER, Sunday, 9 March 2008 03:08 (sixteen years ago) link
bump for ^^^ this article.
― W4LTER, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 10:16 (sixteen years ago) link
League is nothing in Scotland. We like Union
"We" being some border hill farmers and assorted bankers/ brokers/ lawyers in Edinburgh.
I don't think Union is a class signifier outside of England, hardly
Ha ha, right
― Tom D., Tuesday, 11 March 2008 10:25 (sixteen years ago) link
Okay, I didn't know this. So Union is a poshoes sport everywhere except Wales?
― Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 11:19 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't know about Ireland, but I would have guessed so there too
― Tom D., Tuesday, 11 March 2008 11:20 (sixteen years ago) link
No it's NOT a fucking poshos sport!
― Dr.C, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 11:34 (sixteen years ago) link
Nor is Union a working class sport.
However folks of all classes play and watch it. I suppose it's predominantly middle-class.
― Dr.C, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 11:38 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/graphics/2007/09/01/wags/p4.jpg
― Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 11:38 (sixteen years ago) link
It is in Scotland (xxp) Which is why next-to-nobody plays it or watches it
― Tom D., Tuesday, 11 March 2008 11:40 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.sportingheritage.co.uk/acatalog/spc416_jason_leonard.jpg
extract from an interview with Jason Leonard :
When did you first begin playing rugby?
The main sport at my school, in Barking, East London, was very much football. Everyone wanted to play for West Ham, the local team. Rugby took off under a new sports teacher who loved the game and it appealed to me immediately. I liked the idea that you could run round for 80 minutes knocking lumps out of each other
― Dr.C, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 11:44 (sixteen years ago) link
I know that Bath considers itself to be posher than Bristol because it's a rugby town and not a football town. Also football games at the Mem = public transport is packed, streets busy with pedestrians; rugby games at the Mem = roads crammed with 4x4s and BMWs.
― aldo, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 11:45 (sixteen years ago) link
Look POLO is a posho's game. Rugby Union isn't.
― Dr.C, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 11:46 (sixteen years ago) link
Aussies postpone tour of Pakistan http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/7288996.stm
― Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 11:49 (sixteen years ago) link
lol awesome stuff there. Vettori on the last ball of the over goes for a single to keep strike, but the ball goes to monty who lets it go through his legs for a 4. 2 balls later Gillespie is bowled and David Lloyd says it was all part of the monty masterplan. NZ 181-9 in reply to England's 342
― Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 14 March 2008 04:15 (sixteen years ago) link
League is nonsense. However, Union might be the best sport played.
... wait isn't this a cricket thread?
― Mr. Goodman, Friday, 14 March 2008 04:41 (sixteen years ago) link
rong.
― W4LTER, Friday, 14 March 2008 04:41 (sixteen years ago) link
anderson's one good test for another 3 years (and 2 back problems)
― whatever, Friday, 14 March 2008 05:38 (sixteen years ago) link
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/counties/somerset/7297935.stm
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 16 March 2008 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link
and Vettori out for a duck. Didn't expect that. 3 wickets or 187 runs to win.
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 16 March 2008 21:48 (sixteen years ago) link
Billy Corgan is at the game!!
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 16 March 2008 21:50 (sixteen years ago) link
David Lloyd says Siamese Dream was a smashing album. lol Roger Daltrey is there too.
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 16 March 2008 21:51 (sixteen years ago) link
Sidebottom and Broad are bowling really well. Impressive stuff. I hadn't realised Broad was so tall. He's 6'6 and still growing, so he might end up 6'8. Used to love watching Joel Garner and Curtley Ambrose bowl. They were huge guys.
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 16 March 2008 21:59 (sixteen years ago) link
Beautiful
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 17 February 2024 10:58 (four months ago) link
Very funny
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 18 February 2024 10:47 (four months ago) link
Classic England
― The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Sunday, 18 February 2024 11:23 (four months ago) link
well done Ireland, their first victory in Tests!
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Friday, 1 March 2024 12:35 (three months ago) link
Super over for usa pakistan
― nxd, Thursday, 6 June 2024 19:39 (three weeks ago) link
Boy that was startling to read!
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 June 2024 20:19 (three weeks ago) link