are you now, or have you ever been, A Librarian?

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I just got offered a place on the Information Studies MA at Brighton, yay!

I see that upthread I posted that I wouldn't do one because of the cost. Newsflash to self last year: YOU CAN DO IT FOR FREE! (Working at a university has finally yielded some benefit, to the tune of £2000 or so in waived fees WOO!)

So, any advice for my forthcoming studies?

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 12:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

I am not now, nor have I even been a librarian. All of my job titles have been carefully worded to not include librarian (Library Assistant, I.L.L. Technician, A/V Clerk, etc.). Right now, I'm the Library Manager doing librarian's work. It's a one-person show, produced by, directed by, and starring me. I would like to be a librarian, but I'm not ready to give up my poor library girl life for an even poorer student life in grad school.

Jodi (Celerina), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 12:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

The librarian at my middle school was named Ms. Mahoney. She had a massive forehead. We used to yell out "Ms. Mahoney rides my baloney pony."

Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 13:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

I work in a library, but I am referred to as "Nick the a/v guy" by almost all and sundry! Hence I am not a librarian!

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 13:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

Better "Nick the a/v guy" than "Nick, our company's computer guy". Jodi's forehead is normal-sized.

Bryan (Bryan), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 13:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

When I say I'm a librarian, I mean I'm a library assistant! I'm okay with my job at the mo.

Good luck with the MA archel! Just try and think of something interesting to do for your dissertation, is the best advice I can give.

jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 13:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

Although, Nick, Ally would find you irresitable if you were "Nick, our company's computer guy".

Bryan (Bryan), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 13:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

with a big forehead.

Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 13:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

i worked in govnt. documents and the archives while i was at university. damn sexy.

kephm, Wednesday, 30 April 2003 13:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

I am now wishing I never got the degree. Don't waste your money, it's not worth it.

Nicole (Nicole), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 13:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

Well, I'll be wasting the university's money haha.

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 13:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hey, as long as it's somebody else's money, go for it!

Nicole (Nicole), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 13:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

Archel, here is some advice: start researching different types of library work right away (if you haven't already) and seriously think about what you want to go into. (I know this is obvious, but I didn't do an adequate job of it, mostly because I imagined it didn't matter, since I planned--without having worked out the details, of course--on getting a Ph.D. in philosophy somewhere down the road.)

Take the most technology-oriented classes you can tolerate. Learn more about that end of things than you think you'll need to know.

(Incidentally, I got my degree "for free," except that I still ended up having to take out student loans, since the stipend that went with my assistantship was not enough to live on--even though I was only spending $225 a month in rent, sharing an apartment.)

Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 30 April 2003 14:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

Sorry, I see that, oddly enough, I already specifically mentioned the rent I was paying, higher up on this thread.

Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 30 April 2003 14:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

Thanks Rockist. I already work in a university library setting, and have worked in public libraries... and I kind of have my preferences worked out though the course may change them I suppose.

I have to take set modules but the course is newish and part of the Information Technology dept so it's all pretty down with new technologies and all that - which is just what I want.

I'm doing it part-time and continuing to work in my current job as well, so I expect I'll be ok financially though only just...

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 14:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

I am not a librarian, but I teach computer literacy classes in a public library and mind a public computer lab in an "urban" neighborhood. It is mostly pretty rad, and really old black ladies seem to totally love me. One lady the other day conspiratorily sidles up to me the other day and says "you wouldn't know it, but I'm getting my webmaster's certificate from the community college!" then tells me she's just turned 72. Mostly though, it's a big mix of people, favoring middle-aged, out-of-work guys who've just discovered music over the internet and yahoo chess.

It pays pretty well (from the point of view of a recently broke-ass college student), but I'm part-time, so it doesn't actually REALLY pay that well. I've thought of going to school for a library degree, but as much as I DO actually like public service, I'm sure I'd be thoroughly burned out and hateful after ten years, and I don't want that so young in life!

miriam (serrano), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 16:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

the other day, the other day, the other day. my brain cells are already burned out and hateful!

miriam (serrano), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 16:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

heh. My mother was a librarian. My girlfriend may yet become one; she has just started an Information Studies masters (by correspondence) at Aberwystwyth.

MarkH (MarkH), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 17:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...
There are a lot of librarians on ILX obviously. It seems like a great job. Is it? How does one become one without getting a librarian degree?

adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 16 September 2004 16:40 (nineteen years ago) link

You say in the interview:

"Oh yes! I am planning to get a library qualification, I really thought I should get some experience first...this is a great opportunity..." and etc, and hope for the best...I had about 10-15 library assistant interviews before I got anything, and then I was only 2nd choice, but the first person dropped out.

Once I've finished my Information Management MA, I think I will be a qualified Librarian, or maybe I have to get chartered, I'm not sure...I think the MA will be enough.

jel -- (jel), Thursday, 16 September 2004 16:50 (nineteen years ago) link

What is your typical working day like? Do you make the big bucks? Is it lonely or the opposite?

adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 16 September 2004 16:51 (nineteen years ago) link

It is a great job, you get to help people and find out lots of things, and it's way better than working in an office! The library is a haven for those who don't quite want to stick it to the man.

jel -- (jel), Thursday, 16 September 2004 16:52 (nineteen years ago) link

I think I must become a librarian immediately. Me and the man just cannot see eye to eye, it would seem.

adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 16 September 2004 16:53 (nineteen years ago) link

If you put in a good word for me, maybe I could come and work in your library. I've always liked Ealing. The commute from Northern california would be awful, though.

adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 16 September 2004 16:54 (nineteen years ago) link

It's FUCKING SHITE.

Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 16 September 2004 16:55 (nineteen years ago) link

FUCKING BORING. LONELY. SHIT PAY. SURROUNDED BY IDIOTS WITH NO CAPABILITY FOR LATERAL THOUGHT. PEOPLE WHO LIEK TO CATEGORISE THINGS FOR FUCK'S SAKE!!!!!

NB. The people in my direct office/department are not like this, but none of us claims to be a librarian.

Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 16 September 2004 16:56 (nineteen years ago) link

I Really REALLY like to categorise things.

I work with a lot of jaded, superior idiots with endless capacity for self-promotion and a hugely inflated opinion of their own worth. Does this sound any better? It does pay handsomely, I should add.

adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 16 September 2004 16:58 (nineteen years ago) link

What is your typical working day like?

* Check email, delete spam
* Do a few literature searches
* Process article requests
* Open the post, send of articles to people
* Shelve a few books, tidy the shelves, do a bit of cataloguing
* Tea, lunch, biscuits
* Track down obscure document from years ago
* Read the news
* Download some articles
* Read a few articles from Skeptical Enquirer
* Add some stuff to the intranet
* Help someone with a literature search
* Delete old stock

Do you make the big bucks?
Nope :(

Is it lonely or the opposite?
Can be a bit lonely, you need mental reserves or distractions to get through the quiet summer months.

jel -- (jel), Thursday, 16 September 2004 16:58 (nineteen years ago) link

It sounds great except for the money part.

adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 16 September 2004 16:58 (nineteen years ago) link

I work in a small library with only one other person, there's a lot of remote access, and we're big on electronic delivery etc.

I'll put in a good word for you adam.

jel -- (jel), Thursday, 16 September 2004 17:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes, please do. A really long and impressive one.

adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 16 September 2004 17:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Adam, if you're in the US, you're out of luck. MLS's even take non-professional jobs if the pay is good enough or the job is 'interesting' enough.

I wouldn't do public service in a library, but I guess some people prefer it.

Kerry (dymaxia), Thursday, 16 September 2004 17:02 (nineteen years ago) link

:(

adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 16 September 2004 17:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes, sort of. I do not have the MLA. adam you can come be a lib. supervisor in the hinterlands of Indiana with me.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 16 September 2004 17:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Which part of IN, jocelyn?

adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 16 September 2004 17:06 (nineteen years ago) link

West Lafayette!

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 16 September 2004 17:07 (nineteen years ago) link

The only librarian I know is an ex-Marine. I figure you got to be one rough tough sombitch to do the job. I imagine him putting ink on his knuckles and stamping due dates on the faces of customers.

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 16 September 2004 17:08 (nineteen years ago) link

I just found out one of my co-workers, this sweet fourty-something Greek woman, is in the national guard and knows how to kill.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 16 September 2004 17:10 (nineteen years ago) link

My wife used to be a librarian at her university library. I would go and spy on her as she dragged a little book cart around and helped customers at her desk. She made a very beautiful librarian.

adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 16 September 2004 17:10 (nineteen years ago) link

any canadian librarians in this bitch?

Symplistic (shmuel), Thursday, 16 September 2004 21:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Surely that is some kind of oxymoron.

adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 16 September 2004 21:55 (nineteen years ago) link

why?

Symplistic (shmuel), Thursday, 16 September 2004 22:02 (nineteen years ago) link

My Aunt is a elementary school librarian. She sent me a Harry Potter book for Xmas a few years back.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 16 September 2004 22:07 (nineteen years ago) link

adam you need to come work in my library i think theres an opening coming up cos my coworker is determined to fuck up so bad they will fire him and he will get a pay out.. at present i am multitasking: trying to rip a copy protected beenie man cd, warming up the laminating machine and posting to ilx. i have just been mean and stern to a journalist.

gaz (gaz), Thursday, 16 September 2004 22:18 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm a library assistant now, not a shelver and it's really nontiring! I don't think I'll ever bother getting another job, this'll do. I've always wanted one of those jobs where you go on the internet.

Elisabeth (Elisabeth), Thursday, 16 September 2004 23:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Still happily a library assistant. I have achieved a sane kind of balance.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 16 September 2004 23:16 (nineteen years ago) link

I think I wanna become a librarian too! Since we're apparently SOL cause we live in the US, me and adam should stick it to the man and open up an independent library. It'd start with a cart of books on the street, but just you wait and see.
I don't know how we'd actually make money, but we'll let our accountants worry about that.

oops (Oops), Thursday, 16 September 2004 23:17 (nineteen years ago) link

I get so many free withdrawn books.

Elisabeth (Elisabeth), Thursday, 16 September 2004 23:20 (nineteen years ago) link

haha! do you get to choose what gets withdrawn?

gaz (gaz), Thursday, 16 September 2004 23:29 (nineteen years ago) link

i might go and withdraw something right now.

gaz (gaz), Thursday, 16 September 2004 23:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Heya folks -- friend of mine (here in the US) just contacted me saying this:

wanted to pick your brain for a sec - my partner started her library science masters last fall and is coming up on the end of her first year. as you can imagine zoom university has made the whole ordeal less than ideal and she's been looking for help to kind of guide her into her next year and potential specialization.

Since I'm an assistant and not an MLIS holder nor currently on top of what hiring trends/hot areas are like, I said I'd ask around -- would anyone who feels they can provide some good perspective be available to help? If so, send me contact info via ILXmail or elsewhere and I'll pass it along. Much thanks!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 April 2021 20:10 (three years ago) link

Keep reading about these old school Library Apartments in Manhattan.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 16 April 2021 15:12 (three years ago) link

I was a librarian at school, on my second shift I was told that a pen had been lost, found the pen, labelled the pen with a post-it-note saying "the lost pen" then labelled all the other pens with "not the lost pen." Then I was told off for wasting post-it notes and was suddenly no longer a librarian.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 16 April 2021 15:17 (three years ago) link

Not a librarian. I married one.

sharpening the contraindications (Aimless), Friday, 16 April 2021 18:17 (three years ago) link

drop out of school immediately

John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Friday, 16 April 2021 18:46 (three years ago) link

Drop out of BU.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 16 April 2021 18:58 (three years ago) link


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