Come anticipate David Fincher's "Zodiac"

Alright, guys. I'm rewatching this Sunday night.

Not that I keep up, but this has got to be one of the best movies of the last 20 years right? That opening and the time-lapse song sequence in the middle(?) are just breathtaking

I was thinking about this while out driving--I'm a very good driver, so I can think about stuff other than the driving--and you've got four or five (at least) people on this thread who keep watching this over and over, and admit to a compulsion that has them thinking about watching it again. We make attempts to explain what it is that compels us to keep coming back to it; I'm guessing we would all concede that it's not the easiest thing to explain. (I know I would.)

A perfect mirror on the Graysmith's own obsession, and his attempts to explain himself.

mr veg is in love with the time-lapse recreation of San Francisco -- and he just about peed his pants when they recreated the tv studio for Melvin Belli

if you guys like this film, i really recommend 'memories of murder', directed by bong joon-ho (who also directed 'the host', 'mother', 'snowpiercer'.) similar to 'zodiac' in a lot of ways, but it has a lot of the jarring tonal shifts korean cinema are known for (slapstick comedy, suspense, drama, tragedy)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memories_of_Murder

it's so cool how the movie seems to build to Allen as the main suspect, especially after that interrogation scene in which you can barely contain the "THIS is the guy" feelings, and then that angle just sorta peters out and is pretty much forgotten until Graysmith finds the scent again. that in-betweener space there is where things get really diffuse and time-lapsed as well--climaxing (or bottoming out) in the scene at Avery's house.

I think on first viewing that's the space as well where things begin to feel desultory, the movie too long or without purpose, but I think it's a key element in its enduring fascination.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY8Jrp_L7jM

^^^ friend of mine did CGI animation for that shot and the over-the-bridge city shots

so brilliant

this opening shot is for real dope as hell

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/101/a/5/zodiac_opening_shot_by_webdurk-d617mni.png

yes yes yes

memories of murder is a good film but not remotely as good as this

i cannot argue with that

watching this right now

some interesting comic actor cameos: june diane raphael as ruffalo's wife, john ennis as a psychologist

the ending is def funny after having watched 'party down'

That opening shot is exactly the sort of shot you could not get with film.

Love Chloe Sevigny in this, especially for such a small, minor supporting role.

remind me why I don't have this on bluray. clearly I'm an asshole.

This movie's like "The Thin Red Line," it can just be left playing in a loop in the background.

haha not coincidentally my other fav from the last 15 years

(xposts) Of the many really small roles, I love the cop who, after Koteas wryly says that Graysmith thinks he's going to solve the Zodiac case, cheerfully adds, "Good for him!"

there's not a false note in any of the performances really. Love the gentle and melancholy affection between Edwards and Ruffalo. It's a moving and even slightly tragic depiction of male platonic friendship. Not a lot of other movies even approach something like that with the kind of subtlety and intimacy that feels so true to life here. Their relationship feels so worn in in a beautiful way.

You just reminded me of something that's so good in Zodiac, and so forced in another film I otherwise really like, Clockers. I'm thinking of the Paul Stine crime scene, and how that compares to the big crime scene in Clockers. In the latter, Keitel and Turturro engage in all this knowing, movie-cop banter that's supposed to show us how desensitized they've become. Every time I've watched Clockers, that scene bothers me--do actual cops behave this cavalierly? In Zodiac, though, there's no banter and no jokes once they arrive at the crime scene (well, excepting Ruffalo's aside about Edwards' birthday). They're completely focused on trying to make sense of what's there.

yeah one thing i really like is that, despite everything, the detectives are clearly distinguished from Graysmith by their professionalism--you get this particularly with Toschi walking out of Dirty Harry early.

Mcpoyle from It's Always Sunny as the victim.

(xposts) Of the many really small roles, I love the cop who, after Koteas wryly says that Graysmith thinks he's going to solve the Zodiac case, cheerfully adds, "Good for him!"

― clemenza, Friday, August 9, 2013 6:24 PM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark

james legros!

john getz from 'blood simple' as an editor at the chronicle

i love brian cox in this.

siskel film center is doing a fincher retrospective this month. missed this on the big screen when it came out, so i'm gonna get tix.

i'm too tired to check if anyone mentioned the superb docs about the crimes on the bonus disc, but wow....amazing stuff

jaymc let me know when you're going and I might join you

"Sorry."
"'Sorry'" counts as speaking."

"They like to help, you know, sometimes."
"Yes, Robert, I know."

So many lines in this I never get tired of. The second exchange is such a perfect encapsulation of the relationship between Graysmith and Toschi.

this can no longer be ignored.

mine does.

"You don't smoke, do you?"
"Once. In high school."

rewatching

lake berryessa stabbing is so hellishly realistic...the dull thuds of each stab, his faint grunting each time...every tiny detail is so horrifying

made worse bc it's such a tranquil, beautiful setting, the dappled sunlight in their faces as they are first approached
guh

lets watch this movie forever

i love ruffalo and edwards

that first lamp scene so minimal but tells you so mucj

much

have i jizzed abt this movie enough ffs

jesus harold christ on rubber crutches

"Learn a lot"

hovered

"We're actively pursuing all leads."

(What do you mean by lamp scene, VG?)

First Ruffalo scene where he's in bed, reaches to answer phone & knocks over lamp

Blanked out..."Let me just describe the lamp you're gonna buy me."

(I don't have all these memorized word for word--there's a transcript online.)

yes let's watch something horrifying forevvvvvvvvver

i must be a horror movie philistine because i didn't like this or find it scary at all. mark ruffalo and rdj were good in it though

It's not a horror movie.

i mean i got the sense when it turned out to be the most obvious suspect that it was trying to break the hollywood paradigm for the benefit of real headz or something, and at the same time that its appeal isn't supposed to lie in the plot, but all these details y'all are mentioning went completely unnoticed (or unappreciated maybe) by me :(