Elon Musk

1) shouldn't we fix BART / buses / systems that working class people use before building toys for rich people

There are lots of problems everywhere all the time. Can't let it stop technology from moving forward.

2) LA-to-SF only is ridiculous, there's like a whole state in there

There's a whole country, even! LA-to-SF sounds like a perfectly fine beta test.

3) nobody wants to hear half-baked plans from an arrogant rich dude

Not all rich dudes are arrogant. Elon Musk has never struck me as anything close to that.

people on twitter so mad.

who do you follow?

i'm not getting that impression from all the tech ppl i follow

unveiling this while CA is deep in the hole with it's bullet-train project (something I support wholeheartedly btw) is pretty arrogant

You might be right, Johnny, dunno. I was just trying to figure out why there was this explosion of contempt all over my twitter feed after the announcement.

markers, here are some of the people that were entertainingly scathing: kalebhorton, quartzcity, tcarmody, mikesonn

i do follow tim but i guess whatever he said didn't stick

cool monorail bro

lol

i have a plan for a train that goes from boston to atlanta in 10mins, its called lasertrain and ill give you some cool drawings of it in a couple weeks, its ridiculous no one is building it btw it only costs $10

im not gonna build it tho cause im kinda busy

even i can afford that

unveiling this while CA is deep in the hole with it's bullet-train project (something I support wholeheartedly btw) is pretty arrogant

isn't his point that hyperloop would be fraction of the cost and twice as fast?

the douchey thing is that he made a big ol deal abt something thats not at all real

Which is how 70% of architecture and urban planning works.

sure 70% that sounds totally realistic too

I meant 94% sorry.

To me, it really sounds like a kickstarter project... but from a billionaire.

i mean who knows maybe its revolutionary technology but its so preliminary its p comical to call a press conference abt it

maybe this is the best way to convince someone else to give it a shot idk

LOL "elon musk"

This should keep us occupied for a while: http://www.spacex.com/hyperloop

markers, here are some of the people that were entertainingly scathing: kalebhorton, quartzcity, tcarmody, mikesonn

I wasn't scathing about Musk (I am about futurism in general) - if anything, he has a good track record on quixotic tech quests. I hope he's successful with this. I also hope there's a state left that can use it.

unveiling this while CA is deep in the hole with it's bullet-train project (something I support wholeheartedly btw) is pretty arrogant

Knowing how CA politics works (and the CA rail projects are amazingly political), how would you expect a non-arrogant to even get traction with this?

I have no doubt that Musk will solve the Hyperloop technical issues. I very much have doubts about him navigating Sacramento.

I was describing this to my wife today and kept calling it Supertube.

Bad connotations...

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/supertrain-1_7696.jpg

lol @ the "open source" pdf proposal. build a section of the thing and then get back to us when you have it working.

Musk says the Hyperloop is best for distances of 900 miles. Beyond 900 miles, he thinks you're better off in a supersonic jet.

Lol

I never use my supersonic jet anymore as parking is always a total bitch

I have to say I rather like Elon Musk. He's made a massive pile of money and rather than sitting on it or managing it in mundane ways; he's making risky bets on thinks he's passionate about: Cars, Rockets, vacuum tubes.

Hyperloop seems a bit ridiculous to me, vacuum tube powered trains and trains in evacuated tubes are an old chestnut, almost as old as railways themselves. However, he's built a commercially viable private space programme and a car company* in the last ten years so anything is possible.

*Tesla isn't really a car company it's a power train company and if it is still making cars in 5 years I'll be surprised.

ya i'm kinda ll for crackpot genius billionaires actually doing interesting stuff, up until they become str8 up supervillains obv

lol @ the "open source" pdf proposal. build a section of the thing and then get back to us when you have it working.

― wk, Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:23 AM

he might do this

is this dude one of the crazy silicon valley libertarian types or is he just beloved by them?

iirc he has liberal tendencies mixed in w the libertarianism

xp I heard him speak and he seemed not crazy and to have some kind of social or at least environmental conscience, unlike the usual libertarian types, but maybe he's just better at hiding it

(I like him too fwiw and right now he seems one of the most likely "crackpot genius billionaires" to solve some hard problems which are overdue for solving, so I hope he carries on with that. Also hoping that one day I'll get to see/read his computer game that appeared in some 8-bit micro type-in listings mag in the 80s)

he's not as bad as some of the other silicon valley libtards, I'll give him that.

nonetheless, this is a stupid proposal

do tell

curious to read a critique that amounts to more than 'hyperlol'

I think it's dumb that he's throwing around numbers when he doesn't even have a working prototype. It just seems like he's hoping to derail the other project. I also think the "open source" thing is pretty silly since it's not like code where an individual can make some kind of improvement and test it out to see if it works. I guess an open source design is an interesting idea after the fact if he actually gets it working and other people want to build his design, but it still seems basically irrelevant.

Didn't he make his fortune with Peter thiel?
I don't know if that is "guilt by association" or "looking better by comparison"

It just seems like he's hoping to derail the other project

^^^

A key part of his criticism of the other rail plan is that it's "more expensive to operate (if unsubsidized)." I'd like to see some more detailed numbers on that though. Why would we count the cost of unsubsidized rail against air travel which is heavily subsidized? All that really matters is cost to the traveller, and unlike airlines, I'm assuming the high speed rail system is not going to be run as a for-profit business. He also makes no comparison of the environmental costs of air flight vs. the planned high speed rail system.

markers, here are some of the people that were entertainingly scathing: kalebhorton, quartzcity, tcarmody, mikesonn

― eris bueller (lukas), Monday, August 12, 2013 11:24 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm generally contemptuous of futurists, primarily because they seem to think energy and climate change problems will just sort themselves out, but a mass transit system that relies on solar power and transports people across one of the busiest stretches of highway in America is a good thing. I looked at the first two feeds you suggested and they seemed to just be saying this is just a toy for rich people, which is afaict completely unsupported by his proposal. He's not suggesting a magic carpet for billionaires; it's mass transit that uses solar power. This is a good thing! Maybe it's completely impossible hogwash, but I'd like to see actual engineering criticism of it instead of casual dismissals based on suspicion of ideas from rich people.

the main challenges are not engineering-related, their political

anybody who is over the age of 25, has lived in a city for any length of time, and paid a modicum of attention to the world around them knows that these kinds of massive public works projects tend to be underbid by shady contractors and then they go wildly over the original schedule and budget. so the fact that he's coming in saying he can do it so much cheaper with a totally new and untested technology is a huge red flag. to me it immediately suggests that the whole thing is not serious.

if he honestly thinks this is a feasible plan he should raise some funding and build a private line from LA to Vegas.

It's transparently unserious in that he doesn't want to do it himself and "regrets even mentioning it"

right, that aspect has been p funny

haha, I missed that part

ya seems like he said something offhandedly then realized abt his celebrity

a mass transit system that relies on solar power and transports people across one of the busiest stretches of highway in America is a good thing.

people don't commute the LA to SF corridor though. i have a hard time believing a transit system would fill the role of the 5 freeway. it's mostly trucks anyway.

You know what would do really well in transportation corridors like that? Plain old freight trains.

I swear, the interstate highway system and the fact it's mostly used for semi truck freight is the biggest money hole in our post-WW2 car-dependent wonderland

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2024/05/tesla-does-180-on-superchargers-rehiring-laid-off-staff-amid-new-plans/

...lol

wonder how much extra tesla are having to pay the sacked supercharger team to come back after shitcanning them so ignominiously

elon musk really is the devil in the sense that people have made a deal with him

https://i.imgur.com/3YuyqfD.png

gotta have a based robot in there

Almost forgot not all his tweets are just quote-replying 'True.' or 'Interesting.' to whiny white supremacist grievances and completely made up allegations against political opponents.

concerning!

lol... now who would do such a thing?

Several vehicles at the Tesla factory in Fremont have been vandalized, according to the Fremont Police Department. On Monday at around 2:30 a.m., Fremont PD were dispatched to a location on the 45000 block of Fremont Boulevard where the factory is located.

There were reports, police said, of numerous vehicles having been vandalized. At the scene, officers learned that several parked vehicles had sustained damage to their tires.

Fremont PD is actively investigating the incident.

shoulda just put them all in carwash mode

Ooopsies. Funny thing is, it's not just the ex-employees who would be motivated to do this, but like the entire population of the Bay Area

Yeah, hopefully he puts up a big whiny stink about this and inspires even more people to vandalize teslas

Keep Bender's name out of your fucking mouth, Elon!

lol

The day before Elon Musk fired virtually all of Tesla’s electric-vehicle charging division last month, they had high hopes as charging chief Rebecca Tinucci went to meet with Musk about the network’s future, four former charging-network staffers told Reuters.

After Tinucci had cut between 15% and 20% of staffers two weeks earlier, part of much wider layoffs, they believed Musk would affirm plans for a massive charging-network expansion.

The meeting could not have gone worse. Musk, the employees said, was not pleased with Tinucci’s presentation and wanted more layoffs. When she balked, saying deeper cuts would undermine charging-business fundamentals, he responded by firing her and her entire 500-member team.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/inside-story-elon-musk-mass-100216178.html

that seems less like bad business acumen and more like someone on a bizarre drugsblasted business holiday

I don’t see why there has to be an exclusive binary there

DJP 1 Hunt3r 0

does he actually have a plan here or is he just winging it day to day?

some Roman Roy shit

of course he has a plan he wants a sassy robot

why care about charging business fundamentals when you're fun and mental

tha based business boi

this uh seems very illegal

I’ve been stating this for years 🙃autopilot disables 1 second before impact by design.

Anyone on the internal autopilot team would have known this as far back as 2020. https://t.co/SpMQC7uQx1

— Aiaddict (@Aiaddict1) May 7, 2024

https://i.imgur.com/MYyOosz.png

this bullshit again huh

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:hvxnbkpkw33nulvd4aqej2nw/bafkreif56hbib4au4ijuttzxpyhzfilh4xzzlnsls4zpyqspnj4mp3awni@jpeg

https://bsky.app/profile/grgd.bsky.social/post/3kt3ntxv2gs2t

mold maybe

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:hvxnbkpkw33nulvd4aqej2nw/bafkreihluvvgvplmxzoyxg2b2sxhju3qeqvdnm6xdf35jas42nwpk6p73m@jpeg

that watermelon pic

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fwhats-the-matter-with-you-homer-we-dont-have-any-fruits-or-v0-hecmwydpo2mb1.jpeg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pVq85MDTB5o/hqdefault.jpg

kind of amazed there doesn't seem to be any real oversight going on with Tesla, like if Toyota has a faulty brake or wheel or whatever it's national news, while Teslas just routinely ship out with 5 things pre-broken which may or may not be covered by warranty

medias spent so many years riding elons dick they dont know how to do anything else

Yeah we had to literally hand over our fucking car 5 years back because "some" models of it had faulty airbags. Nothing wrong with our actual car but we had no say in the matter, no chance to just fix the airbags - nope. Recall, heres your current-value buyout, off you fuck. Was such an old car we only got like $4k back and, we couldnt remove the after market stereo we'd installed so lost that too :( To see these cars just driving around like nothing... blaaaaa.

lmao, incredible

https://x.com/ass_beaters/status/1794036155014361392

this is so painful to watch pic.twitter.com/Pe2LG19Qsz

— 𝓡𝓲𝓭𝓮𝓼 𝓣𝓱𝓪𝓽’𝓵𝓵 𝓑𝓮𝓪𝓽 𝓨𝓸𝓾𝓻 𝓐𝓼𝓼 (@ass_beaters) May 24, 2024

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/24/opinion/elon-musk-spacex-brownsville-texas.html

tht stry mde me sd. :(