Guardians of the Galaxy: Marvel mess in the making?

Less dithering, more raccoon gifs.

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xp but with more GIFs comes more dithering

HEYO

I don't see how you could watch THOR and think it was anything but Cosmic Batshit.

otm

Well, as it is, Thor is actually my favourite of the Marvel movies; I was positively surprised how much cool stuff inspired by the original comics they managed to get into it.

I liked the Avengers movie, but it was basically all about the tensions between characters; even though there's some nominally some cosmic stuff, it didn't matter at all, most've of it could've been replaced by non-cosmic plot devices

Er, the Avengers hinges on a plot hatched by an actual Norse god in partnership with an honest-to-goodness evil alien race. The climax of the film features massive armoured space worms attacking New York through a rift in time and space.

Well yeah, but like I said, almost all of those things could've been replaced with non-cosmic plot devices. The bad guy is the God of Lies and Mischief, but he's beaten in a fistfight; they could've replaced him with a human baddie and it would've been pretty much the same. The aliens are just soldiers with makeup; no Skrull shapeshifting or anything. The space worms are used like they're the equivalent of helicopters or planes, and they're beaten with guns and fists. The enemy is ultimately defeated with a nuke... So it's an action movie with sci-fi dressing, like I said.

Maybe I'm in the minority, but I never cared that much for the sort superhero stories where the superheroes just fight crime. I want Cosmic Villains that can only be beaten with Mystical Powers and Soul Gem gambits. I hope the third Avengers movie will be The Infinity Gauntlet, I think they could get a really good movie out of it, one that would satisfy both likes of me and the ones who want loads of action scenes.

Hopefully they'll do Dr Strange as well and really let it rip.

what's the difference really between "mystical powers and soul gem gambits" and a nuke?

I mean that stuff is normally portrayed as a big blast of energy anyway right? so you're asking for cosmic trappings rather than sci-fi trappings, but that doesn't make it anymore essential to the plot.

By "Soul Gem gambit" I was referring specifically to conclusion of The Infinity Gauntlet, and its sequel, The Infinity War. If you haven't read them I won't spoil them, but I can tell you they're not about magical nukes.

Or if you want a more recent comic, take All-Star Superman. That's an epic story with an epic conclusion, and it's considered to be one of the best superhero comics of recent times, but almost nothing in it solved by fistfights. That's the kind of superhero movies I'd like to see.

I've just this weekend read the two Annihilation series and started the Guardians of the Galaxy series proper.

Cosmo's gunna be in the movie, right?

Any good? Never read any GotG.

Yeah. Some of the best Marvel comics of the past 20 years.

Yeah, the whole trip from Annihilation to Thanos Imperative is very fun.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/10/10/forty-comic-creators-holding-rocket-raccoon-at-nycc-robert-kirkman-to-becky-cloonan-to-chris-claremont/

Apparently, the plushie Rocket Raccoon is the thing to get at this year's NYCC.

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lol immediately recognized the same artist as "nerd blackface"

Rocket Raccoon and Groot rule in Guardians of the Galaxy test footage

A VERY short test clip of Rocket standing on top of Groot and firing a machine gun.

Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B16Bo47KS2g

"What a bunch of a-holes"

not enthused by that trailer :/

A man, a woman, a Hulk, a raccoon and a tree walk into a bar... I think this one just had to be a little table-setting, but yeah, I agree, Nhex.

I think/hope there will have to be some small Reilly/Nick Fury scene tying this into the rest of the cinematic Marvel U.

Love the fact that the trailer song is a comic in-joke:

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Also interesting - this io9 piece on possible spoilers in the listing for the Captain America 2 soundtrack notes that the last track is called "Quill's S.O.S."

How are people not stoked? Granted I know nothing but this is solid trailer action.

Should have parodied the Avengers trailer

"If we can't protect this galaxy, then we can sure as hell.... guard it"
"Wait, don't those mean the same thing?"

* cut to Rocket Raccoon screaming "BLAM! I murdered you!" roll credits *

had the trailer been two minutes of Rocket Raccoon shooting people in the face, I would have been stoked

I kind of want some footage of Bradley Cooper's voice coming out of his mouth so I can decide how ridiculous it'll be

Bookmark for future ILX use:

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okay that did make me lol

Looked kind of like a big-budget syndicated show rather than a movie to me.

I think it looks fun enough.

"What a bunch of a-holes"

― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL)

Is it Peter Serafinowickz saying this?

It just seems way too soon in this Marvel universe roll-out to go all Howard the Duck campy. I like James Gunn, generally, but gathering an A-list of the B-listers does not necessarily give me faith in the franchise.

Too bad Fantastic Four is in some sort of neo-Marvel rights limbo. That would have been the perfect vector to further expand this movie universe into other galaxies/dimensions. I know that reboot is on its way, but the fact that it, Spider-Man and X-Men exist in some sort of parallel Marvel universe really muddies one of the best attributes of the brand.

I imagine they'll find away round all that eventually, a film starring spidey, the x-men and the avengers would be like the biggest money spinner ever.

looks entirely entertaining to me. I like it when the Marvel movies are funny (Thor)

I imagine they'll find away round all that eventually, a film starring spidey, the x-men and the avengers would be like the biggest money spinner ever.

Sony cobbled together a whole new Spidey franchise just to keep the rights so I don't think they'll be giving them up anytime soon.

An film starring amusement park with spidey, the x-men and the avengers rides, plus Star Wars, plus of course Disney, would be like the biggest money spinner ever. That's likely the end game once the rights diaspora is reigned in.

so... Orlando?

I don't really get how Sony Pictures can have licensed the Spider-Man pictures "forever" but I can't find any concrete details on how their licensing from Marvel works

I think it's a rights in perpetuity thing as long as Sony doesn't let the series lapse for X number of years. Marvel sold off those franchises when superhero movies were at their nadir.

Eventually, though, Disney will have enough money to just buy them all back and then lock up copyright until 4500 AD.

That's still an insane deal; I guess Marvel was coming off bankruptcy a few years earlier, but it seems incredibly unwise in retrospect

I've heard of these kinds of licensing agreements before (if X property is not activated within Y years, rights revert back to property holder) but to allow this to go on in perpetuity is nuts

The Amazing Spider-man was basically the equivalent of Corman's Fantastic 4.

In terms of timing, not so much in terms of budget

I wish they'd done that as a loose continuation rather than a reboot; Raimi did the origin story pretty much perfectly.

It was painful watching them try to differentiate the new origin story from the old one. Worst part was robbing Uncle Ben of "With great power..." and replacing it with some weird off-brand paraphrase instead.

a spiderman movie was in the works for so long that 'this will never actually get made' wasn't a totally unfair assumption. guardians trailer looked good enough to me, sets the tone and looks worst case scenario the movie version of hitchhiker's guide. could imagine it not doing well and ending up an honorable flop like scott pilgrim or underperformer like pacific rim but if it's a hit it opens things up for marvel in a huge way (esp compared to wb/dc where they're so timid from having fucked up their properties they have to bundle wonder woman into a movie that already has superman and batman in it). i don't own stock in disney so why do i give a fuck if this is 'too risky' or they're making this move 'too soon', if it flops they'll keep doing what they're doing and take a tiny baby step out of the comfort zone somewhere else (ant man apparently), if it doesn't maybe summers become alot more interesting and fun.

steve gerber's 70s guardians of the galaxy isn't his best work, but does contain at least a few moments of genuinely visionary strangeness, whereas - like that panel reproduced above - this new iteration just seems to be awful zany garbage

I guessing having absolutely no experience with Guardians I just think "hey it's Chris Pratt and this looks fun" but I guess ymmv

all I know about Guardians is that they have a tree that only knows one sentence and a homicidal raccoon

also, don't have written a stupid and boring script this time

they were on Ego's planet for way too long. More high flying space hijinks please.

but what does this mean for the hotly-anticipated suicide squad sequel

― kiss me dadly (bizarro gazzara)

apparently he's still on for that too

having to do GOTG's effects on Slither's budget would be an improvement imo, except for Rocket Raccoon

a puppet would be great

I want to agree, but the combination of animators and Gunn's acting are the character now, and Gunn Major really uses the freedom of movement

90% of GOTG2 was an unremarkable sea of pixels though, with not much plot and a massively tedious daddy dilemma behind it (meant to say GOTG3 in previous post)

i loled

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— Groot (@Guardian__Quill) March 15, 2019

apparently he's still on for that too

best thing about this news rly is that it ensures dave bautista will be back to deliver another miraculous draw performance

DRAX goddammit

Would be cool with a chunk of the runtime being devoted to Bautista drawing a picture for us tbh.

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The irony is that Chris Pratt has become far more gross a figure than James Gunn.

he should go back to being a chubby slob for this next one

he should go back to being a chubby slob for this next one