American Politics Thread 2013: I'm a cool Rodham grandma in the USA

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I wonder if this is the first Senate race where both nominees have documentaries about them running for mayor

President Keyes, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 11:17 (ten years ago) link

The url for Pareene's story says it all: http://www.salon.com/2013/08/13/dont_vote_for_cory_booker/

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 12:07 (ten years ago) link

what Booker has going for him: he's not Lonegan (who combines the worst traits of Chris Christie, Rand Paul and ... well, stereotypical Jersey assholishness).

i voted for Pallone.

got standard fundraising spam "from" Sen Gillibrand with the subject line "Cory." Count the annoying buzzwords!

Cory will be a great partner who will work with me to bolster New York and New Jersey families so that we can overcome the challenges our states face. Our values are Cory’s values....

As mayor of Newark, New Jersey, Cory has reduced crime, created jobs and revitalized the city’s downtown. He has a track record of getting results.

want to destroy the Democratic Party so so much

Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 14:06 (ten years ago) link

so Booker is as disgusting as Schumer and Harold Ford, Jr, right

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 14:07 (ten years ago) link

Ed Kilgore in Washington Monthly:

To detractors, he’s an unholy combination of Harold Ford, Jr. and Joe Lieberman, beholden to Wall Street and Silicon Valley.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 14:42 (ten years ago) link

In a financial disclosure filed last month, Booker revealed that his stake in Waywire was worth between $1 million and $5 million, making it his biggest asset.

“Cory is the inspiration architect,” Ross told the Times. “He really is the thought-leader soul part of the business.”

one yankee sympathizer masquerading as a historian (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 14:50 (ten years ago) link

corporate governance by way of oprah and the secret

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 15:40 (ten years ago) link

Oprah, thought-leader of the millennium.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 15:41 (ten years ago) link

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal-a/2013_08/first_glimpse_of_the_struggle046379.php

I’d guess that before the day is out it’s going to occur to some news-starved Gotham-centric scribbler to do a piece contrasting de Blasio and Cory Booker as the twin poles of debate in this upcoming Struggle for the Soul of the Democratic Party. Or maybe it won’t be written until such time as de Blasio actually wins. Or maybe another New York figure named Hillary Clinton will manage to put off the Struggle for the Soul once again. It’s hard to say right now. But at some point internal differences, real and symbolic, sharp and focused or vague yet pervasive, will boil over into public. After all, conservatives can’t have all the factional fun.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 16:18 (ten years ago) link

I have no caveats about voting for de Blasio as the "most liberal" of the mayoral options here, given that his rivals are some combo of corporatists, phonies, and crooks, but since BdB was HRC's campaign manager in her Senate election in 2000 I'm not exactly counting on him being some left-wing savior.

Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 16:24 (ten years ago) link

personally, i don't know why either Holt or Pallone couldn't have dropped out and endorsed the other since they essentially split the liberal vote. maybe there's some rivalry b/w them to which i'm not privy -- and it might not have mattered anyway, given Booker's Wall Street- and Silicon Valley-funded war chest large campaign funds and media-whoring name recognition.

still, better him than a bona fide Teabagger/asshole like Lonegan.

Bryan Fischer, Earth-God liaison, on the events leading up to the photoshopping of obama into the photo of the situation room on the night of the bin laden raid:

"Frankly I think that got photoshopped in after deal. I think Obama's approach was, 'Hey, if this thing goes south, I don't want to be in the room. I don't want to be anywhere near this thing if it blows up. If it succeeds, if it's an outstanding success, then photoshop me in there.'"

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/bryan-fischer-obama-was-photo-shopped-into-bin?ref=fpb

i love the idea of obama actually saying that

Z S, Thursday, 15 August 2013 20:45 (ten years ago) link

I am puzzled as to who he would trust with such a photoshopping mission. It would be like handing that person a key to your presidency.

Aimless, Thursday, 15 August 2013 22:15 (ten years ago) link

now we know why Sean C hasn't been around lately

OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Thursday, 15 August 2013 22:15 (ten years ago) link

http://www.progressive.org/alec-nation
http://billmoyers.com/2013/08/15/a-dem-adrift-in-alec-land/

haven't read these yet, but, awesome

R'LIAH (goole), Friday, 16 August 2013 20:02 (ten years ago) link

Sequester:

Head Start programs across the country eliminated services for 57,000 children in the coming school year to balance budgets diminished by the federal sequester, cutting 1.3 million days from Head Start center calendars and laying off or reducing pay for more than 18,000 employees, according to federal government data scheduled for release Monday.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/head-start-eliminated-services-to-57000-children-in-us-as-a-result-of-sequester/2013/08/18/e1181810-06d9-11e3-9259-e2aafe5a5f84_story.html?hpid=z2

curmudgeon, Monday, 19 August 2013 18:06 (ten years ago) link

x-post--interesting stuff re ALEC but does she have ideas re how progressives can better organize

curmudgeon, Monday, 19 August 2013 18:11 (ten years ago) link

lol @ under educated hungry children

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 19 August 2013 18:51 (ten years ago) link

cruz is one of those dudes who looks 15 years older than he is

k3vin k., Tuesday, 20 August 2013 23:56 (ten years ago) link

It's the hair. Look to the hair, Orwell always said.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 23:58 (ten years ago) link

I love "Please Don't Go," but looking at that video, I think KC is just entering his coked-out, Dirk Diggler "You Got the Touch" phase.

clemenza, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 00:02 (ten years ago) link

i think it's the droopy face. he looks awful - wasn't he supposed to be like a handsome, smooth-talking debating genius who was going to save the GOP?

k3vin k., Wednesday, 21 August 2013 00:04 (ten years ago) link

I don't know--I've never seen KC debate.

clemenza, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 00:05 (ten years ago) link

Pretty sure m first step running for federal office in USA would be to renounce any other citizenship but I guess he needed to keep those options open.

you're better off in a supersonic jet (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 00:06 (ten years ago) link

he'd make a great Canadian Senator

Pope Cuddlestein (symsymsym), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 00:38 (ten years ago) link

can i sublet cruz's canadian citizenship?

mookieproof, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 00:56 (ten years ago) link

what an exciting 8 months you would have

Pope Cuddlestein (symsymsym), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 01:41 (ten years ago) link

seriously, i'd be interested to hear his rationale for maintaining his canadian citizenship to this point. he has a legit interesting family backstory that logically would bear upon his decision. or, he could simply say "forget my backstory, why WOULDN'T you want dual citizenship?" which i think is legit, too.

you're better off in a supersonic jet (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 02:17 (ten years ago) link

he literally didn't know he had dual citizenship until reporters pointed it out to him the other day

balls, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 05:00 (ten years ago) link

I love "Please Don't Go," but looking at that video, I think KC is just entering his coked-out, Dirk Diggler "You Got the Touch" phase.

― clemenza, Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:02 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so otm

the husbster (self-professed octopus expert) (stevie), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 07:27 (ten years ago) link

in my fantasy universe this strengthens the argument for single-payer!

i too went to college (silby), Thursday, 22 August 2013 03:14 (ten years ago) link

xxp Rolling Drone Thread

Mordy , Thursday, 22 August 2013 05:00 (ten years ago) link

Heathcare is awesome
http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/morning_call/2013/08/ups-to-drop-15000-spouses-from.html

― the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:05 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Seems from reading the article that this has nothing to do with Obamacare and is just UPS cutting costs.

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 22 August 2013 05:34 (ten years ago) link

I don't really get the big deal, apparently they're only revoking coverage if the spouse works somewhere else that also provides similar coverage?

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 22 August 2013 05:39 (ten years ago) link

I guess it's only a big deal to those spouses who whose family insurance costs will go up when they have to purchase "similar" coverage that costs more.

UPS says it's related directly to Obamacare: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/22/business/ups-to-end-health-benefits-for-spouses-of-some-workers.html

Let's please stop pretending that Obamacare is not directly raising costs for some families, because it is for me.

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 22 August 2013 10:57 (ten years ago) link

Several health care experts, however, said they believed the company was motivated by a desire to hold down health care costs, rather than because of cost increases under the law.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 August 2013 11:00 (ten years ago) link

We should trust the unnamed experts and not UPS? And that "cost increases under the new law" are should simply be absorbed by UPS as if they are inconsequential?

Seems to me that if we want to take the cynical route on this, we should think that UPS is only using Obamacare as a scapegoat to cut costs. Pretty sure I can find a health care expert out there who thinks that UPS wants to cut costs simply to enrich its shareholder masters.

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 22 August 2013 11:33 (ten years ago) link

Pretty sure that health care expert would be right, too.

cops on horse (WilliamC), Thursday, 22 August 2013 11:47 (ten years ago) link

This -- ACA implementation -- is the point in the musical chairs game where the music stops and somebody gets hip-checked out of the game. It doesn't fucking have to be that way, it shouldn't be that way. This is artificially engineered chaos from the right, from state legislatures and governors, from John Fucking Schnatter and Hobby Fucking Lobby. Chaos is always an opportunity to improve one's position at the expense of others.

cops on horse (WilliamC), Thursday, 22 August 2013 12:18 (ten years ago) link

Or, as Rahm Emmanuel likes to say, "You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before."

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 22 August 2013 12:30 (ten years ago) link

Savings from denying coverage to 15000 spouses are like what? $100mm? Anyway are we supposed to understand that the direct costs of aca to ups for expanded benes to adult children and cadillac plans in 2018 and certain fees are commensurate?

you're better off in a supersonic jet (Hunt3r), Thursday, 22 August 2013 12:31 (ten years ago) link

The upshot, though, is that the ACA itself is not the real villain here. xp

cops on horse (WilliamC), Thursday, 22 August 2013 12:33 (ten years ago) link

Why would anyone think it could be?

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 22 August 2013 12:36 (ten years ago) link

After all, any unintended consequences not previously imagined should be blamed on anything opposing ACA and not its implementation or design.

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 22 August 2013 12:37 (ten years ago) link

We should trust the unnamed experts and not UPS?

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 22 August 2013 12:48 (ten years ago) link


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