― andy --, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:51 (eighteen years ago) link
http://imdb.com/name/nm0001158/
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And "The Dawn of Man" birthday ... which covers both the man-apes and the moon excavation.
HAL was originally voiced by Bronx-accented Psycho detective Martin Balsam. I do a decent impression of HAL's rendition of "Daisy."
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:05 (eighteen years ago) link
Full Metal JacketDr. StrangeloveSpartacusPaths of Glory
I like all of these! I really do! And except for FMJ I liked all of them BEFORE I ever had any intention of joining the cast of MASH so there!
BTW Joshua could whup HAL's ass.
― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:16 (eighteen years ago) link
did you like Barry Lyndon, TOMBOT? it's got war in it.
― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:21 (eighteen years ago) link
Man, Spartacus is fine as Decadent Hollywood Rome spectacles go, but i can't take that slaves-frolic-with-the-lambs shit.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:26 (eighteen years ago) link
And haven't seen La Jetée at all. But que sera, et al.
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:33 (eighteen years ago) link
Isn't it the case that Sarah Cracknell was screentested for the Starchild? (Her dad was 1st AD.) Stanley decided to go with a fake.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 22:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 22:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 22:51 (eighteen years ago) link
Not the only thing that he ran into the ground...
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 22:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― General Doinel (Charles McCain), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 23:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― andy --, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 23:58 (eighteen years ago) link
hence2001 = WAR KUBRICK
Joshua??? Haha, is that the WarGames computer? You'd put a killer of astronauts up against something programmed by Matthew Broderick?!?
(Reagan-era kiddie nuke adventures: The Manhattan Project > WarGames)
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 December 2005 14:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Thursday, 1 December 2005 14:33 (eighteen years ago) link
The WOPR had the entire nuclear arsenal of the world at its disposal. It almost wiped out the human race. They couldn't shut it down, they had to teach it futility. That's a much, much more interesting character arc than HAL, and better armament to boot.
When I get my own digital projector and an apartment to fit it in, I'll be sure and netflix 2001 again and let you know how I feel afterwards. I am not optimistic.
(I also think Henry is right, AGAIN. Enrique didn't we used to get in fites on film threads? what went wrong?)
― TOMBOT, Thursday, 1 December 2005 14:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Thursday, 1 December 2005 14:40 (eighteen years ago) link
So is the ending of 2001 Kubrick's most optimistic? Is it, as John Simon dissed, "a shaggy God story"? Or is tracking human evolution as a series of steps engineered from Beyond the Infinite depressingly deterministic? And why do aliens like 18th-century French decor?
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 December 2005 14:53 (eighteen years ago) link
but i'm unsure abt evolution as a theory.
ok lol
― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Thursday, 1 December 2005 14:54 (eighteen years ago) link
i was a riot at college
― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Thursday, 1 December 2005 14:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 December 2005 14:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Thursday, 1 December 2005 14:58 (eighteen years ago) link
That's a shame! I always find it interesting to see where different people draw the line beyond which everything becomes "pretentious" or "masturbatory".
― sleep (sleep), Thursday, 1 December 2005 15:26 (eighteen years ago) link
Apparently the 2001 makeup people weren't considered for an Oscar because the pajama-clad Academy types didn't realize the apes were actors.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 December 2005 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― sleep (sleep), Thursday, 1 December 2005 15:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 1 December 2005 15:49 (eighteen years ago) link
although he did use a real chimp baby...
― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Thursday, 1 December 2005 15:53 (eighteen years ago) link
http://blogs.citypages.com/pscholtes/images/11111111%20Jack%20Kirby.jpg
I loved the movie so early and unconditionally that reading Pauline Kael's pan as an adolescent was an event. But she was so wrong...
― Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:12 (eighteen years ago) link
The 2001 apes were in Shepperton Studios -- the landscapes were rear projections.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:19 (eighteen years ago) link
I have. It looks great, but it doesn't change everything else I find wrong with it. This is my issue with Kubrick almost en totale. Everything looks great (except most of the Shining but I'm not sure who to blame really for why the Shining is so awful, mainly I blame Nicholson), but that's...it...which there is something to be said for that but there is also something to be said for not making films like Eyes Wide Shut.
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― Vicky (Vicky), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:45 (eighteen years ago) link
And yeah the space baby thing was crap, I gotta be honest, that is totally awkward cinema IMO.
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― ledge (ledge), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:02 (eighteen years ago) link
I can understand the Starbaby not working for you, but "awkward"? If the finale shows the post-human evolutionary leap, how else would you show it? All the other options seem too mundane.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― TOMBOT, Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― TOMBOT, Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:19 (eighteen years ago) link
(friend claims this is why I hate Brando in The Godfather, but I maintain it's because he's bad)
Dune, aghhh. Medieval-style sci-fi... me so sleeeepppyyy...
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:24 (eighteen years ago) link
How the hell did you get to see Dune in the theater? Man.
― TOMBOT, Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:24 (eighteen years ago) link
I bought tickets to see Dune in a theatre. WTF?
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:26 (eighteen years ago) link
i hate movies-as-competition shit.
what do you mean?
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:30 (eighteen years ago) link
But as films go, Stence, you must admit that 2001 has the edge, no?
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:32 (eighteen years ago) link
I meant where the hell do they still show Dune in the theater! I guess not in Alabama or Tennessee or the Washington DC metro area.
― TOMBOT, Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:36 (eighteen years ago) link
(When I read the Idyllopus write-up on EWS, I thought maybe 70% of her observations were brilliant/mind-blowing, and 30% a wild stretch… for The Shining, I would maybe reverse those numbers, but still really enjoyed reading it.)
― "Mick Wall at Kerrang!" (morrisp), Friday, 25 November 2022 20:47 (one year ago) link
Wow, first I've heard of those series. They out to put them in print.
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Friday, 25 November 2022 21:36 (one year ago) link
She gets pretty "out there" – but the degree of cultural knowledge that she brings into play is incredible. I've also never seen anyone analyze a film so closely... and there's obviously a lot of grist for the mill there (as a basic example, I had never realized that Kubrick moves props around and stuff).
― "Mick Wall at Kerrang!" (morrisp), Friday, 25 November 2022 22:30 (one year ago) link
(I would also highlight this piece called The Problems with Discussing Stanley Kubrick's Lolita... it's somewhat of a departure from her usual format, in that it's a lengthy, somewhat personal rumination/essay on "problematic" art & artists – obv. a very familiar subject these days, but she goes places that were new to me, and I thought it was really good and thoughtful.)
― "Mick Wall at Kerrang!" (morrisp), Friday, 25 November 2022 22:37 (one year ago) link
Another good "Supplemental" piece (sorry, my last post) is The Real Horror of The Shining: The Misogyny of the Audience for Wendy Torrance.
― "Mick Wall at Kerrang!" (morrisp), Friday, 25 November 2022 22:42 (one year ago) link