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Okay so photos started going around of just how *long* the book is when you look at it:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BWj8D1oIIAEnaE3.jpg

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 22:30 (ten years ago) link

Holy fuck.

Mine's being delivered tomorrow. I haven't seen any reviews (if there are any?)

gyac, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 22:32 (ten years ago) link

Amazon says 480 pages. must be thick paper.

footballer of the future (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 22:34 (ten years ago) link

Then it turns out it's nothing but obsessive journalling about his breakfasts.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 22:38 (ten years ago) link

countdown to the first news site with a "480 pages of autobiography and Morrissey is still in the closet" headline

ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 22:52 (ten years ago) link

kinda amazed this really exists! any excerpts leaked yet?

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 22:53 (ten years ago) link

I'd never seen the Penguin website before, it's pretty.

There's a lack of... soul on Radio 1. (bends), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 23:01 (ten years ago) link

43;j54356u34jfoiajear23!!

https://twitter.com/ColinGPaterson/status/390617468001337344

Good grief. The first paragraph of Morrissey's Autobiography lasts four and a half pages. The book is 457 pages. There are NO chapters.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 23:36 (ten years ago) link

I'll be disappointed if the book is not written in the same style as these letters:

http://www.morrisseyscans.com/wordsbymorrissey

There's a lack of... soul on Radio 1. (bends), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 23:37 (ten years ago) link

no chapters is kind of amazing

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 23:42 (ten years ago) link

i suggest we all unite and shoplift some copies of this book

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 23:42 (ten years ago) link

omg, an emo Tarantula.

Boards of Komeda (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 17 October 2013 00:24 (ten years ago) link

Sorry, Tarantula not nearly so long and has found its audience in recent years.

Boards of Komeda (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 17 October 2013 00:30 (ten years ago) link

from someone on the moz forum

"Now read 3/4 of it , the whole smiths story is tainted by how it ended , and there is a lot of vitriol for almost everyone ... its an interesting read from the point of view of showing the raging ego of a man who has never had to grow up and be responsible for his own actions ... the early family stuff is sweet but once the music business stuff starts its just bitching and moaning ..... dissapointing !!"

piscesx, Thursday, 17 October 2013 00:43 (ten years ago) link

i love music business bitching and moaning. its the best kind next to hollywood bitching and moaning.

scott seward, Thursday, 17 October 2013 00:45 (ten years ago) link

Hahah yes.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 October 2013 00:48 (ten years ago) link

opening line reads

"My childhood is streets upon streets upon streets upon streets. Streets to define you and streets to confine you...".

piscesx, Thursday, 17 October 2013 00:52 (ten years ago) link

In fact that's key here -- WHO WILL MAKE THE BIOPIC.

Suggest cast, director and screenwriter.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 October 2013 00:53 (ten years ago) link

To package as a classic a book that no one except Morrissey and a handful of his fawning acolytes has read is instantly to reduce the worth of all classics. Plato, Julian of Norwich, Darwin – they must all be spinning in their graves right now. In essence, Penguin is sneering at the public. A classic is a book that is judged by posterity to be an outstanding work. How does that happen? Through people reading the book, discussing it, embracing it, recognising its artistic beauty and universal import. There is a democratic element to the idea of the classic; certainly the elevation of a work to classic status involves intellectual, public engagement, the subjection of the work to readers and audiences over a long period of time. For a couple of men in suits at Penguin's head office to decree, behind closed doors, that Morrissey's autobiography is a classic is an act of both extreme haughtiness and dumbed-down relativism – it is arrogant to believe a classic can be christened before being devoured and discussed by humanity, and it is ignorant, too, a relativistic denigration of those classics whose worth we as a species have already agreed upon.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/brendanoneill2/100241061/in-publishing-morrisseys-autobiography-as-a-classic-penguin-has-destroyed-its-own-reputation/

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 17 October 2013 01:19 (ten years ago) link

"Signed, Luke Haines"

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 October 2013 01:28 (ten years ago) link

While that may have a point, it's written by one of the most profound cunts in the British journalistic canon, so if we're using his argument that a classic must be established on reputation, I say that he has already established his own right to shut the fuck up and never sully my mind with his noxious Tory filth again so help me God

HAVE YOU SEEN ME? Please don't hesitate (imago), Thursday, 17 October 2013 02:45 (ten years ago) link

Also I genuinely cannot be fucked how this was published, under what guise it is presented. 'Classic' is subjective marketing bullshit anyway. Who cares, other than those for whom subjective marketing bullshit is everything - the gatekeeping Tory shitheads?

HAVE YOU SEEN ME? Please don't hesitate (imago), Thursday, 17 October 2013 02:48 (ten years ago) link

While that may have a point, it's written by one of the most profound cunts in the British journalistic canon, so if we're using his argument that a classic must be established on reputation, I say that he has already established his own right to shut the fuck up and never sully my mind with his noxious Tory filth again so help me God

dunno would i call morrissey a fully-fledged journalist now tbf

unblog your plug (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 October 2013 02:51 (ten years ago) link

haaaaa

HAVE YOU SEEN ME? Please don't hesitate (imago), Thursday, 17 October 2013 02:52 (ten years ago) link

In fact that's key here -- WHO WILL MAKE THE BIOPIC.

Suggest cast, director and screenwriter.

All I know is Daniel Day Lewis should play Moz. Maybe Stephen Daldry to direct?

daavid, Thursday, 17 October 2013 02:58 (ten years ago) link

Perfect.

Lover (Eazy), Thursday, 17 October 2013 02:58 (ten years ago) link

managed to read 40 pages of it on my commute to work this morning

most amazing relevation so far is a childhood fondness for "Skippy The Bush Kangaroo"

hipster racist (King Boy Pato), Thursday, 17 October 2013 02:59 (ten years ago) link

ben affleck as morrissey vinnie jones to direct

unblog your plug (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 October 2013 03:02 (ten years ago) link

Book's pretty good. Skimmed it in three hours for some news stories.

Unsettled defender (ithappens), Thursday, 17 October 2013 04:41 (ten years ago) link

oh wasn't endorsing that excerpt by any means, i just thought it was hilariously splenetic. never read anything by that dude before but the phrase "a relativistic denigration of those classics whose worth we as a species have already agreed upon" just made me assume he was your typical quasi-racist right-wing asshole.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 17 October 2013 05:04 (ten years ago) link

oh *dear*

http://www.ijamming.net/autobiography-by-morrissey-a-review/

piscesx, Thursday, 17 October 2013 06:47 (ten years ago) link

A rare gem of surprise arrives as if from nowhere to round out the story, in the form of a letter from Marr’s music journalist pal Nick Kent, to Morrissey, begging to play the part of Marr in an ongoing Smiths. “I am not a good self-salesman but I can confidently boast an encyclopaedic knowledge of the chord structures, dynamics etc. of Johnny’s contributions to date.”

0____O

piscesx, Thursday, 17 October 2013 06:50 (ten years ago) link

http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2013/oct/16/morrissey-autobiography-smiths

If it is Morrissey's tragedy – as it is the tragedy of pop music as youth culture – that he appears stuck in his youthful persona, then that should be balanced against his youthful courage and his considerable achievements. But an autobiography is a book of a life. In Morrissey's case, which life are you going to get: the joyous, barbed but humorous spirit of the Smiths' years, or the inward-looking, self-obsessed curmudgeon of his middle age? The jury's out, but I know which one I would like to read.

... and?

Mark G, Thursday, 17 October 2013 11:26 (ten years ago) link

I know, bad form to repost other comment sections, but:


PresumingOgs (17 October 2013 7:04am)

Michael, I know you're desperate to get the juicy titbits out there, but enough already. Give the book a proper read and then give us a considered review. Or, better still, get someone else to do it for you. Your mining of the index is akin to children looking up dirty words in a dictionary.



Guardian staff CasparPresumingOgs (17 October 2013 7:53am)
Relax! The considered review is coming from John Harris in due course

Mark G, Thursday, 17 October 2013 11:33 (ten years ago) link

There isn't an index, so I heard, PresumingOgs.

Defund Phil Collins (stevie), Thursday, 17 October 2013 11:42 (ten years ago) link

The jury's out

lol courtroom metaphors

In times of osterity, these Eton-educated poshboys (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 17 October 2013 11:53 (ten years ago) link

Then it turns out it's nothing but obsessive journalling about his breakfasts.

― Ned Raggett

well why not

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 October 2013 11:58 (ten years ago) link

sofia coppola is the only person i want to see direct a moz biopic

ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Thursday, 17 October 2013 12:32 (ten years ago) link

Got this at lunchtime to read on a plane tomorrow. It had a whole table to itself in Waterstones that had six copies left when I got there. During the time I spent queuing, two other people bought it. No index. Slightly disappointed at the size of the text - bigger than the usual Penguin Classics font, about the same as most modern popular biographies - which means that the 457 pages isn't as much as it sounds.

Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 17 October 2013 13:02 (ten years ago) link

started on this at lunch, first pages were some ponderous overwritten reflections on Manchester (almost like Laura Barton were ghosting), but warmed up a bit as it went on. Did want to shout 'stop remembering tv' when he was just listing things he watched in the 60s.

woof, Thursday, 17 October 2013 13:09 (ten years ago) link

EK, I got the third-but-last one on the table at University Place Waterstone's.

Randomly opened to some surprisingly cogent stuff about 9/11.

hatcat marnell (suzy), Thursday, 17 October 2013 13:18 (ten years ago) link

He's doing a signing at Reading Waterstones, the same week Amber's doing her work experience...

Mark G, Thursday, 17 October 2013 13:20 (ten years ago) link

OK, that's a complete lie there.

Still, ....

Mark G, Thursday, 17 October 2013 13:20 (ten years ago) link

Our past comes back to haunt us.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 October 2013 13:29 (ten years ago) link

momus to play moz

ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Thursday, 17 October 2013 13:34 (ten years ago) link

I was at the only place in the UK open at midnight to sell it (I had to for work). There were 18 people there at midnight for the 192 copies. Very jovial, though. And we got a free poster.

Unsettled defender (ithappens), Thursday, 17 October 2013 13:57 (ten years ago) link

Wonder what the economics are of opening your bookstore at midnight to sell 18 copies of a paperback retailing at £8.99?

gotta lol geir (NickB), Thursday, 17 October 2013 14:01 (ten years ago) link

Two-man operation, so perhpas worth it. And there was a BBC camera crew there, so maybe some publicity.

Unsettled defender (ithappens), Thursday, 17 October 2013 14:06 (ten years ago) link

And, of course, maybe some more people turned up after I went (I left as soon as I got my copy) …

Unsettled defender (ithappens), Thursday, 17 October 2013 14:06 (ten years ago) link


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