tv shows within tv shows: an ocd thread for jaymc and nabisco

which would explain why they thought Gilbert and Sullivan parodies were some next level shit

haha

it just seemed to be it was so obv supposed to be about SNL that actually having real-SNL in there was dumb. i mean their show was supposed to have this big proud history going back years... it was just weird that there were supposed to be like TWO shows like that

guys it still bugs me that eddie murphy is famous in 30 rock's universe

i guess just because so many other famous people referenced on the show who maybe hosted snl once or whatever eddie murphy in my head is inseperable from snl

aw yeah no doubt - i mean, that was the least of the show's probs, to be honest. i did really love it though, for all its many faults.

xp to slocki

isnt there some episode where jack gets really into friends--and schwimmer and aniston have both been on the show

guys it still bugs me that eddie murphy is famous in 30 rock's universe

Maybe Rick James just took Eddie under his wing and he became famous for "Party All the Time".

I don't think it's too far-fetched to imagine that one of the many late night sketch shows that cropped up in the wake of SNL in the late 70s and 80s survived, maybe as a more upscale 'intellectual' brand (rather than less, like Mad TV), and became an institution in its own right. I mean, the Tonight Show used to have no real competitors/equals, but it does now.

but the joke is his oscar nom for dreamgirls

although lol at a world where dude gets an acting career on back of party all the time

maybe Eddie got to movies from a sitcom instead of SNL

maybe he was Theo Huxtable!!!!

as an HBO watching youngster, i was always bothered by the scene in just one of the guys where the main character chick playing a dude is described as looking like "the karate kid" because william zabka is the high school jerk in just one of the guys, and yeah, also in the karate kid

I was bothered that the main guy in it looked like a 35 year old teacher instead of a student.

I guess something similar (maybe) happens in O Lucky Man, when Malcolm MacDowell's character Mick Travis ends up auditioning for a part in the first film, If..., implying a fictional If... in this universe. The other characters recurring from the earlier film complicate things further. Then Mick is shocked into a zazen acceptance of the circumstances by being slapped across the face with the physicality of the script for If..., by it's director. Even though it's a fictional script wielded by a fictional director hitting a fictional character, which all have real world counterparts, and the paradox-accepting hit across the face leads the film to descend, Blazing Saddles style, into a party which transcends the fiction of either film - maybe even becoming documentary of a real cast party for the film. I dunno, it seems somehow relevant.

Riddle me this: Does the movie Poor Cow exist in the world of The Limey?

did you just say "riddle me this"?

Ilx turning into gotham city.

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"i suspect FOWL play at the hands of that birdbrained andtwat!"

eddie murphy in my head is inseperable from snl

Huh -- I don't have this at all! Maybe because I became old enough to notice pop culture right around the same time he was getting big in movies instead?

I would get a little jolt if they ever referred to Martin Lawrence, though, given all the Tracy stuff in the first season

also tracy morgan was on the show martin

^^ Actually technically the train of thought there also has to do with all Tracy's ridiculous fat-suit movies, which ... hahaha it's not unreasonable to figure that if Murphy didn't do that stuff, then maybe Lawrence wouldn't, then where would Tracy be

i saw your train of thought i was just adding to the ocd

Hustle Man (portrayed by comedian Tracy Morgan): This character was the neighborhood purveyor of questionable products and services "at a discount rate! I don't do dat for erra'body! I'm just tryna help YOU out!" He always greeted Martin with his trademark "What's happenin', chief?" In one episode, one of Hustle Man's more outrageous items for sale was an 'appetizing' array of roasted pigeons impaled on a tree branch (as if barbecued on it), which he attempted to sell to Martin and his friends while they were snowed in and starving. In another episode he served as Martin's cut-rate "wedding planner," armed with a shopping cart brimming with chitlin loaf, plastic flowers and a 40 of malt liquor, in retaliation for Gina's choice of a more elegant and greatly overpriced wedding planner.

Tracy Jordan's movies have run the gamut from Martin to Eddie to Cuba Gooding so at this point I think it's fair to say he's just a composite or imaginary contemporary

"Let's talk about Fat Bitch 2..."

i know, cutty -- but wait, did they trade out "Brother Man" for "Hustle Man" at some point? cause Tracy wasn't the dude from upstairs who made the bootleg "WHITTY HUTTON" t-shirts, right?

(The main conclusion I'm coming to here is that we totally need Arsenio to do a 30 Rock guest spot, possibly as the amorous club girl from Coming to America)

(some dude, I'm thinking of the jokes around running through traffic in his underwear / sleeping on someone's roof, etc. -- the "straight-up mentally ill" part is pretty Lawrency)

i think the movies were very lawrency, the stuff you just mentioned came from morgan's own antics, no?

While filming A Thin Line Between Love and Hate in the mid-1990s, Lawrence had a violent outburst on the set and began taking drugs. He became increasingly erratic and was arrested after he reportedly brandished a pistol and screamed at tourists on Ventura Boulevard in Los Angeles.

^^ the crazy-on-highway bit was a direction reference to Martin for sure

While filming A Thin Line Between Love and Hate in the mid-1990s, Lawrence had a violent outburst on the set and began taking drugs. He became increasingly erratic and was arrested after he reportedly brandished a pistol and screamed at tourists on Ventura Boulevard in Los Angeles.

his discussion of this moment in runteldat had me in tears and i don't even like dude really

we totally need Arsenio to do a 30 Rock guest spot

Hall, or Billingham?

oh right!!! he is already enmeshed in the 30 Rock fictional space

ok this is an even more inane freaks & geeks issue, but on at least commentary track, david (gruber) allen does commentary in character as mr. rosso, which is a weird conceit to start with, but several of the actors are on the same commentary track providing commentary as themselves, the actors

"i was about to do that whole run to the airport thing, like Ross did on Friends, and Liz Lemon did in real life."

^^ I assumed that at that very moment there were at least 10 other people thinking of this thread

"Our relationship is like that relationship on Friends between Greenzo and that crazy chick I was banging"

xp that line made me wonder if someone at 30 rock reads ilx

Jack on 30 Rock confessing to a priest that he once declared "I am God" in a deposition.

"Call me crazy but child actors were much better back in the 80s."
- NPH in this week's HIMYM

In the world of Curb Your Enthusiasm, who played the library cop on Seinfeld if Philip Baker Hall plays Larry's doctor?

There was an episode of X Files which was presented as a COPS style documentary about Mulder & Scully, except in the documentary, Mulder & Scully didn't behave like they usually do in the show.

does that really fall under what this thread's about?

some element of this topic's themes in the mild disquiet I felt the other day seeing Frasier echo Sideshow Bob in singing Gilbert and Sullivan, yes?

there's a scene in Date Night where the 2 main characters are in a restaurant, and will.i.am is sitting at the next table and they're all "oh wow it's will.i.am let's take a picture!" and a minute later, Common, whose 2007 single "I Want You" was produced was will.i.am, walks up to the table, but he's not playing himself, he's playing a corrupt cop who tries to kill the main characters.

you know, if 'i want you' was playing on the soundtrack at that moment, some kind of logistical black hole might have opened up. [love that song btw]

in community there's one scene where abed hits on alison brie in a "don draper" style

yup, and then two or whatever weeks ago, in the season premier, talk soup told him "life isn't a tv show"

uh like 90% of all dialogue between those 2 characters is meta jokes about one comparing their lives to TV shows

Just watching the modern-day "Sherlock" show, and struck by the fact that these characters live in 2010 and yet would have never heard of the character Sherlock Holmes.

yeah I got a bit distracted by thinking that no-one can say 'no shit sherlock', unless they are actually talking to Cumberbatch. Holmes is a giant hole in the universe - everything from the decoration of Baker Street Tube to what a comic stereotype detective looks like (deerstalker, inverness). Can't remember - does any of this get mentioned? Seems like the sort of thing that Moffatt would enjoy messing with as a throwaway.