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Does anybody know where I can find that 1979 WPIX radio show with Lou and Cale? The link for it on that tumblr is gone.

tylerw has it

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 October 2013 22:25 (ten years ago) link

Seem to remember "Suzanne" being played a lot, vaguely remember there being a video.

Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 October 2013 22:25 (ten years ago) link

So, older people, did "I Love You, Suzanne" and "No Money Down" get daytime MTV play?

I had a cassette "Best Of" of Reed's 70s solo stuff and got "New York" when it came out, but I didn't hear any of his other 80s records until I got to college and plundered the radio station. vague recollection of some late night performance (Letterman?) of "Joystick" or something like that.

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 October 2013 22:27 (ten years ago) link

looks like that was "Video Violence" actually, 1986...?

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 October 2013 22:29 (ten years ago) link

I just saw it. Eek.

"My Red Joystick" got play too apparently.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 October 2013 22:34 (ten years ago) link

tylerw has it

― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier)

oh, thanks! Hadn't dug deep enough into the other thread.

Fetchboy, Monday, 28 October 2013 22:35 (ten years ago) link

Lou did an in-store signing at Tower Records on W4th in support of that album. I went and remember being surprised when my friend from Canarsie asking him which of his albums was his favorite. I tensed up a little in anticipation of the response which turned out to merely be "I like 'em all."

Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 October 2013 22:43 (ten years ago) link

"Suzanne" and "No Money Down" were in regular rotation on MTV, but the former more than the latter. The live "Video Violence" (1986 Giants Stadium Amnesty Int'l show) was shown a lot, too (VJ Dweezil Zappa called it "the worst guitar solo of all time").

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 28 October 2013 22:44 (ten years ago) link

(not nearly as notable as getting Iggy Pop's signature at the Tower in Austin)

Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 October 2013 22:44 (ten years ago) link

Just saw a piece on Lou on NBC news. Clips of "Heroin" and Metal Machine Music were played. On national network TV.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 28 October 2013 22:45 (ten years ago) link

and by Brian Williams himself! He sounded moved.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 October 2013 22:47 (ten years ago) link

and he mentioned Vaclev Havel!

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 October 2013 22:47 (ten years ago) link

I didn't say I liked the Art of Noise, I said I liked the sound of it. People I like are Afrika Bambataa and Soul Sonic Force. Rikki Lee Jones. Run DMC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=6-Nnq8BQ86M

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 October 2013 22:47 (ten years ago) link

i have one of those cringeworthy memories of doing an oral report on heroin for my american studies class in 1985 and turning all the lights off and putting the shades down and playing "heroin" for the class on a boombox. i was trying to be deep.

scott seward, Monday, 28 October 2013 23:01 (ten years ago) link

lol

i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 28 October 2013 23:11 (ten years ago) link

oh Scott that's excellent. I did mostly the same with the Cure's Killing an Arab in my English class (we were reading The Stranger or Outsider or whichever one that was..)

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, 28 October 2013 23:13 (ten years ago) link

Yup. Some of us bought a few of those RCAs on eight-track, a format we might have otherwise shunned.

My greatest record find of all time was finding the 8-track of Metal Machine Music at a truck stop in Barstow. Probably had been there since the release.

VU&N and WL/WH were pretty difficult to find in the early 80s. I found both of them used at Rhino Records in Claremont - the banana had been peeled, but even then finding an intact one was cost-prohibitive.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 28 October 2013 23:23 (ten years ago) link

I found both of them used at Rhino Records in Claremont

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this was my record store as a young'un

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 October 2013 23:28 (ten years ago) link

I had Patti Smith's Radio Ethiopia on 8-track. It was so hard to find music I liked on used 8-tracks back in the early 80s (wasn't going to buy new just for the car).

I remember the VU 3rd being hard to find one in the 70s, with WL/WH being the easiest, and VU&N being not that bad. Don't remember whether Loaded was easy or not.

I bought MMM when it came out; when in high school a department store near me (Two Guys) kept the Billboard top 200 LPs on display (and on sale - $3.99 for single-LPs), and believe it or not MMM made the cut. Some pretty obscure stuff will show up in the top-200.

I also found great stuff at the Claremont Rhino.

nickn, Monday, 28 October 2013 23:51 (ten years ago) link

SFJ:

The famous quotation, widely attributed to Brian Eno, that “only a thousand people bought the Velvet Underground’s début, but they all started bands” is not wrong; if anything, it is conservative, though we have to range over many albums to size up Reed’s impact. “What Goes On” gave us the Feelies; “Sister Ray” gave us Spacemen 3; the third, self-titled Velvet Underground album gave us Galaxie 500, and maybe a chunk of the independent rock music made in New Zealand during the late nineteen-eighties. Reed’s tendency toward structural simplicity married to noise, and a faith that no word was above his listener’s head, is at the root of so much music that I am scared to make a list, in fear of the counterlists that will point out everyone who is missing.

On the Pixies’ 1987 début, “Come On Pilgrim,” Frank Black sang, “I wanna be a singer like Lou Reed.” That’s a fairly solid citation, so we’ve got one, for sure. We could venture further and say that David Byrne, Pavement’s Stephen Malkmus, and Ian Curtis would have thought very differently about music if not for Reed’s existence. The real list of who loved Lou Reed songs is probably something like “everyone,” though that doesn’t do much for anyone looking to find something to listen to right now.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 00:03 (ten years ago) link

i can't remember ever reading lou talking about dylan or dylan talking about lou. in an interview or whatever. like, what did lou think when he first heard dylan?

scott seward, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 00:32 (ten years ago) link

Think they decided never to talk to or about each other because of Nico. Cherchez la femme.

Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 00:34 (ten years ago) link

In the mid-1960s, when the Velvet Underground was first trying to make it, someone, possibly Andy Warhol, was trying to get Dylan to see Lou Reed's young band. Robbie Robertson went to see the Velvets instead, and was not impressed. Referring to Reed, Robertson said, "That guitar player, he ain't nothin' ". Reed retorted by saying that Dylan's songs were "marijuana leftovers", and something like "Dylan is the type of person you'd want to punch out at a party."

I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 00:37 (ten years ago) link

Reed praised Dylan at length in RS' '89 cover story -- said he made his assistant buy Down it the Groove so he could listen to "Rank Strangers to Me," as if working for Lou wasn't penance enough.

And he did a ripping job of covering "Foot of Pride" in '92.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 00:40 (ten years ago) link

gaizka mendieta obviously has a lou reed story too https://twitter.com/GaizkaMendieta6/status/394837463531012096/photo/1

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 00:46 (ten years ago) link

i can't remember ever reading lou talking about dylan or dylan talking about lou. in an interview or whatever. like, what did lou think when he first heard dylan?
iirc according to the transformer bio lou felt slighted that his songs weren't revered as much as dylan's.

fit and working again, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 01:01 (ten years ago) link

i can't remember ever reading lou talking about dylan or dylan talking about lou. in an interview or whatever. like, what did lou think when he first heard dylan?

― scott seward, Monday, October 28, 2013 5:32 PM (35 minutes ago)

Take a listen to the Peel Slowly & See demo disc...

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 01:09 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9xQ-xwz6lM

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 01:12 (ten years ago) link

Prominent Men, I guess, but the other demos, Albert R? Maybe I just don't remember them correctly (the lugubrious Cale ones I am thinking of...)

Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 01:14 (ten years ago) link

but that's not Lou, duh--sorry, disregard (sleepless)

Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 01:14 (ten years ago) link

Yeah I need to revisit them, but I remember there were some alt. takes or demos that sounded just as Dylan-esque as "Prominent Men".

I imagine it would be time-consuming to isolate the takes within the long unindexed tracks.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 01:18 (ten years ago) link

Maybe this one too?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmmMy-712ZA

Kinda reminds me of "These Days".

Speaking of the Nico+Dylan+Lou connection, didn't Lou play the guitar on Nico's "I'll Keep It With Mine"?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 01:22 (ten years ago) link

love that version

iatee, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 01:26 (ten years ago) link

Nope. Wiki informs me that Jackson Browne plays on that track.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 01:26 (ten years ago) link

Run Run Run is pretty Dylanesque in the verses!

Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 01:35 (ten years ago) link

i have no doubt that a fiery pissed off jew storming the barricades of pop music in the early 60's influenced lou in a big way! i mean everyone took from dylan. in dress or attitude or song. and i know they were apparently friendly in the 80's? just never actually heard lou say anything about him later. but maybe he didn't want to remind people of dylan when talking about his own stuff because HE was the genius.

scott seward, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 01:50 (ten years ago) link

i mean they have always reminded me of each other.

scott seward, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 01:50 (ten years ago) link

this is pretty rocking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUH8VrIC1j8

scott seward, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 01:51 (ten years ago) link

great sound and video on that clip too.

scott seward, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 01:51 (ten years ago) link

"tatters" one of those songs i don't know cuz i never listened to that album and now of course i want to listen to that album.

scott seward, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 01:53 (ten years ago) link

scott, you need Ecstacy! If you see a copy in your store, give it a listen.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 01:54 (ten years ago) link

btw Dylan said he wished he'd written "Doin' The Things That We Want To."

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 01:54 (ten years ago) link

Lou Reed appeared at the Bob Dylan 30th Anniversary Celebration Concert at Madison Square Garden, October 16, 1992. Although "Tangled Up In Blue" was allegedly considered, Reed covered the relatively obscure "Foot Of Pride", a 1983 song finally released in 1991. It was widely praised as one of the highlights of the evening.

"I chose 'Foot Of Pride' because I just got back from an eight-month tour. Once a day I would listen to it and just fall down laughing. I always go out and get the latest Dylan album. Bob Dylan can turn a phrase, man. Like the album Down In The Groove, his choice of songs. 'Going Ninety Miles an Hour Down A Dead End Street' - I'd give anything if I could have written that. . .

"That was as much fun as I could ever have, as much fun as anyone could legally have."

scott seward, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 01:56 (ten years ago) link

yeah, lou's foot of pride is great. gives me chills. they should have done a duet at some point! ah, well.

scott seward, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 02:07 (ten years ago) link

punk magazine #1 interview w/ lou reed - worth hunting around for a copy of? i was surprised it wasn't easily locatable online

Mordy , Tuesday, 29 October 2013 02:07 (ten years ago) link

they were only a year apart age-wise. dylan a year older.

scott seward, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 02:10 (ten years ago) link

I was on that Tower autograph line too, Redd.

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 02:54 (ten years ago) link

Did you go to the Film Forum later? Was that when it was still on Watts Street?

Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 02:59 (ten years ago) link


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