Dear Morrissey . . .

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Basically Tom Ewing's last paragraph otm

Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 18:04 (ten years ago) link

I don't get it, marcello. Are you suggesting that arthritic gnus are avid readers, easily enticed into reading rock memoirs, and that heath's review is worse than useless because it can't manage even that? Or is it the opposite, that arthritic gnus are not only illiterate but very hard to motivate into doing anything at all - but your aesthetic standards are so high that you will brook no criticism that won't accomplish this (demand the impossible &c)? Is "wouldn't entice an arthritic gnu" a saying I don't know or something? Are gnus with healthy joints more receptive to racist 80s indie singers, or less?

Wait don't answer any of that just tell me is the plural of gnu gnus or is it just gnu cause I fear I may have just made a fool of myself

Rong Male (wins), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 18:05 (ten years ago) link

Morrissey has never really understood the importance of production/engineering imo

yeah that's true. feels like his voice really meshed with the Smiths, the early solo stuff w/Stephen Street is still pretty good mix-wise but that's where things start to sound a little karaoke-esque and it just falls off steadily from there

Tip from Tae Kwon Do: (crüt), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 18:07 (ten years ago) link

I looked it up, it's gnus

Rong Male (wins), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 18:08 (ten years ago) link

Phew!

Rong Male (wins), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 18:09 (ten years ago) link

reference?

cite gnu answers (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 18:10 (ten years ago) link

Gnua

glamorous gnu

Tip from Tae Kwon Do: (crüt), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 18:11 (ten years ago) link

it captures Morrissey's personality to perfection

^^^ this. was all I was asking for from this book and it doesn't disappoint. I don't give a fuck about subjects glossed over or missing details, I am not interested in standard rock star biopic narratives or "how was it done?" mechanics

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 18:12 (ten years ago) link

harsh chords, explosive intensity

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 18:12 (ten years ago) link

Some reviewers have found this unrevealing. I think it might be the most revealing memoir I've ever read, albeit sometimes unintentionally. People who think it would have been improved by in-depth stories about how he wrote This Charming Man puzzle me. Most music memoirs don't deliver the goods about songwriting anyway and most are much duller than this.

(If you do want that Smiths-geek insider detail, btw, Johnny Marr's Q&A in Daniel Rachel's Isle of Noises is fantastic, but I expect it from Marr.)

Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 18:24 (ten years ago) link

nv, Google brings up 5 results for "arthritic gnu". That's more than I was expecting, maybe it is a reference.

Rong Male (wins), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 18:25 (ten years ago) link

I think Heath was disappointed by Morrissey not being David Gedge.

Whereas Morrissey was disappointed by David Gedge not being ...

Mark G, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 19:09 (ten years ago) link

glamorous gnu

― Tip from Tae Kwon Do: (crüt), Tuesday, December 3, 2013 1:11 PM (57 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

YES.

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 19:10 (ten years ago) link

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Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 19:16 (ten years ago) link

Nothing gnu under the sun...

my friend at work is reading the UK version he ordered online and said the parts with the jake guy aren't really like super revealing or anything, just like...he's around when some story about crissy hynde happens and stuff, but nothing too revealing...he was confused as to why it would be taken out

My Chief Keef Keef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 6 December 2013 01:57 (ten years ago) link

Page after page of sniping rage
An English singe or an American tinge?

The Miracle of the Jimmy Smits (King Boy Pato), Friday, 6 December 2013 11:13 (ten years ago) link

Irish balls English whinge?

fashionably early Christmas themed display name (snoball), Friday, 6 December 2013 11:23 (ten years ago) link

The AmericaniZed spelling of words in this was weird, and annoying.

DavidM, Friday, 6 December 2013 13:28 (ten years ago) link

I liked this bit:

http://distilleryimage1.ak.instagram.com/00d903be5e6711e3a58b0e76d35d513f_7.jpg

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 6 December 2013 14:53 (ten years ago) link

He was kinder about her when she died.

Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 6 December 2013 15:13 (ten years ago) link

Well, there you go. Not enough salt in this world to take pinches of for the book.

Mark G, Friday, 6 December 2013 15:51 (ten years ago) link

By the way, for anyone interested, googling "a crisp packet would have caused more attention" in quotes leads you to an upload of the entire book on scribd.com.

Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 6 December 2013 16:22 (ten years ago) link

Is it all in present tense/is all dialogue in italics/does he always use phrases like "i flick back"

Not gonna read it either way but curious as to the exact extent of bouncing back/I partridgeness here

imago hard or go haim (wins), Friday, 6 December 2013 16:28 (ten years ago) link

"Luckily, I had the last laugh..."

the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Friday, 6 December 2013 16:44 (ten years ago) link

The great thing about it is the intentionally funny bits are interspersed with unintentionally funny bits so I found the whole book hilarious.

Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 6 December 2013 16:50 (ten years ago) link

a lot of it is in present tense but he sort of flits back and forth between that and past tense

it is v funny

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 6 December 2013 16:50 (ten years ago) link

It's not a good book book, but's it's a really terrific loo shelf book.

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 6 December 2013 17:11 (ten years ago) link

By contrast, that was a wonderful sentence.

Mark G, Saturday, 7 December 2013 10:38 (ten years ago) link

xp soft, strong, and thoroughly absorbant

fashionably early Christmas themed display name (snoball), Saturday, 7 December 2013 12:07 (ten years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_spelling

― Working Class Rejected Street Boot Brat (Noodle Vague), Friday, December 6, 2013 1:42 PM

It's not just that, it's dropping the u from words like colour, glamour etc. Just unexpected seeing it in a Penguin Classics book written by Morrissey, that's all. I mean, did he write it like this, or did Penguin change it? And why!?
But anyway.

DavidM, Saturday, 7 December 2013 15:54 (ten years ago) link

So if you're in NYC on Thursday...

http://www.myfreeconcert.com/events/morrisseys-autobiography-book-signing

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 7 December 2013 19:30 (ten years ago) link

It's not just that, it's dropping the u from words like colour, glamour etc. Just unexpected seeing it in a Penguin Classics book written by Morrissey, that's all. I mean, did he write it like this, or did Penguin change it? And why!?

My guess (completely uninformed) is that he just typed this up in Word or whatever, with the default language set to US English. I can't imagine he knows how to change the setting, and he has a way with words and all, but he's always been pretty rough with the finer details of written and edited English. Apart from the US spellings, there are loads of things that would usually have been changed in an edit - the crazy tenses and parts that don't make sense, for example. I'm thinking the earlier dispute with Penguin was something like them saying, "We'll have to edit this shit," and him going, "My words must not be touched" till they backed down.

Eyeball Kicks, Sunday, 8 December 2013 01:14 (ten years ago) link

You're just too busy
To see me
All around Union Square.

I took a walk
down Union Square
that fucker Morrissey
is never there

He'd better run run run run run etc.

fashionably early Christmas themed display name (snoball), Sunday, 8 December 2013 23:11 (ten years ago) link

"My guess (completely uninformed) is that he just typed this up in Word or whatever, with the default language set to US English"

I read somewhere that he'd written it in longhand, and the m/s was then scanned/OCR'd

mahb, Monday, 9 December 2013 09:12 (ten years ago) link

chapter on his secret love of Mr SHankly in secret was removed by the freemasons - you didnt hear it here - davinichi code and more

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Thursday, 12 December 2013 21:50 (ten years ago) link

Leonineo Davinichi

Mark G, Thursday, 12 December 2013 23:26 (ten years ago) link

so far my most wtf sentence has been the one where he apparently contemplates procreating with some Iranian lady friend

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 12 December 2013 23:55 (ten years ago) link

He sang at the Nobel Prize concert yesterday in baggy grey trousers. Not as prestigious a gig as it sounds: James Blunt also performed.

Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 13 December 2013 00:35 (ten years ago) link

Did he perform Baggy Trousers?

Pre-Madonna (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 13 December 2013 09:30 (ten years ago) link

'Baggy Grey Trousers' should be the name of a Morrissey/Smiths cover band who do all the songs in the style of Madness.

All that self-sacrifice, judgement, self-pity! I’d say it’s (snoball), Friday, 13 December 2013 10:03 (ten years ago) link

{Suggs type voice}
Punctured bi-cy-cle
On a hi-ill-side
so desolate!
Will nature make a man of me yet? {horns: WAH WAH WAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!}

All that self-sacrifice, judgement, self-pity! I’d say it’s (snoball), Friday, 13 December 2013 10:06 (ten years ago) link

Beligerent ghouls in all the schools
headmasters breaking all the rules
spineless bastards innnn the pubbbbbb...

Mark G, Friday, 13 December 2013 10:20 (ten years ago) link


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