i don't know man, seemed pretty obv that KL was heading in the direction it was going in as soon as the creepy guy made it a blood pact - or when their friend drew that occult symbol in their house - i like the way that the film's early 'realistic' mode acted as decoy for the film's ultimate destination.
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 12:58 (ten years ago) link
You guys are idiots.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 13:32 (ten years ago) link
how so emil.y? conflicting opinions, neither of them right?
I agree with ward fowler about 'kill list'. but i thought the cuts between language and tone in 'bss' were integral to the idea of shifts in sound, language and their source (the ontology of sound?) creating the horror pervading the engineer's displacement from home in his new job (the uncanny?)
― ennui soundsystem (doobydoo), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 14:11 (ten years ago) link
BBS woulda worked if it was, like, 45 minutes long. It took its few ideas and stretched them paper thin.
― circa1916, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 14:19 (ten years ago) link
BSS*
i like the end of kill list, but i love wicker man and don't look now, and if you put them together, that's basically the end of kill list.
― socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 14:53 (ten years ago) link
After having the night/morning to think about it, I think where the film falls apart is the it never established even the slightest sense of eeriness or dread - which isn't a problem per se, but it felt like that was their intention.
― Wendy Carlos Williams (jjjusten), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 16:00 (ten years ago) link
its like a british sitcom about an english sound man in italy without the jokes
best thing about it was all the foley/analogue equipment/technique fetishising
made me want to watch blow up or the conversation
― StillAdvance, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 16:19 (ten years ago) link
xpost yeah, it just wasn't scary or creepy or quite atmospheric enough. it seems to go some of the way, but i totally empathise with those who felt it could've gone further, even though i think overall it's a great movie.
― a beef supreme (dog latin), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 16:25 (ten years ago) link
yeah, this was no good
― the late great, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 16:41 (ten years ago) link
lies. still easily my favourite film of the past few years, having watched again the other day. possible a favourite film of all time.
― Fizzles, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:18 (ten years ago) link
i think presuming this is a horror music is a grave mistake
― Strangers look on with a discernible, barely contained ‘wow’. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:45 (ten years ago) link
er, movie
when i recently watched the new bfi dvd of Dead of Night i got a real BSS vibe from the credits:
http://www.tv-ark.org.uk/mivana/mediaplayer.php?id=b5e1d5fdeb5e2abe5f7b90c98afabdac&media=deadofnight1972&type=mp4
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 23:07 (ten years ago) link
Put off seeing this a long while, wouldn't have if I'd known it's not really a horror film; also a rather forthright critique of the genre's misogyny. Never really liked Toby Jones before, but this frustrated mama's boy role fits him like a glove.
The first guy in the studio (sound editor?) he's working with is a riot, then the director is even funnier.
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 11 January 2014 19:22 (ten years ago) link
(I think giallos are the worst shit in the world in case you've forgotten)
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 11 January 2014 19:23 (ten years ago) link
Yeah there's definitely some genre critique in here. It's meant as affectionate, but clearly it works either way.
― Simon H., Saturday, 11 January 2014 20:30 (ten years ago) link
also had forgotten Broadcast did the music
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 January 2014 21:34 (ten years ago) link
man I LOVED this
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 14 January 2014 21:41 (ten years ago) link
I really dug this. Those wacky eye-talians, amirite?
― latebloomer, Tuesday, 14 January 2014 21:55 (ten years ago) link
I'm not a huge giallo fan but I've seen and enjoyed enough of them to lol at lines about aroused goblins
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 14 January 2014 21:59 (ten years ago) link
I enjoyed the movie immensely up until the big transition 15 minutes before the end. I'm quite skeptical about how this movie is alternately classified as a horror movie or a thriller. Though broad, both of those labels presuppose certain elements that are completely missing from this experimental film. Still, it was a fairly good movie and I am so happy to see Toby Jones in a starring role. Though he has starred before, this is the kind of "actor's actor" that is all too often relegated to outer reaches of the supporting cast.
― Jak, Monday, 7 April 2014 18:53 (ten years ago) link
just went to see the duke of burgundy. v enjoyable. long-game fetishism and lepidoptera. a small figure of eight of sexual domination.
― Fizzles, Sunday, 22 February 2015 15:43 (nine years ago) link
sound again central. the list of recordings listed at the end as if not more important than the visual scenery. pleasing joke in the credits - the informal English names of the moths and butterflies played by their Latin classification.
― Fizzles, Sunday, 22 February 2015 15:46 (nine years ago) link
WHY NOT START A THREAD FOR IT?
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 22 February 2015 16:04 (nine years ago) link
v nearly did - or a P Strickland thread - and still might, but the film itself feels a little lightweight. not all in a bad way - wish there were more films that were intriguing bagatelles - but I'm still thinking.
actually that's not true, I'm sitting in the cinema bar drinking, but that's what passes for thinking round my way recently.
― Fizzles, Sunday, 22 February 2015 16:16 (nine years ago) link
A Strickland thread would be better.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 22 February 2015 16:21 (nine years ago) link
Title keeps making me think of the Mr. Show Burgundy Loaf skit
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 22 February 2015 16:23 (nine years ago) link
no men in this film btw. relying on Morbs or someone equally well informed to mention other general release films where this is the case.
― Fizzles, Sunday, 22 February 2015 16:27 (nine years ago) link
That's a really good question, and a unique aspect I'm not sure I've encountered reading about this film yet.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 22 February 2015 16:36 (nine years ago) link
the film is superbly punctuated by lectures on lepidoptera, with slow scans of the all women audience - they're all fantastically dressed and individually beautiful - in the way that is sometimes demeaningly termed "striking". the only exception being a slightly toppling badly wigged mannequin.
this film is as much about dress and dressing up as it is about anything else. the visual and aural aspects of the fabric are v sensually indulged in.
― Fizzles, Sunday, 22 February 2015 16:41 (nine years ago) link
very high among 2015's anticipatings
― describing a scene in which the Hulk gets a boner (contenderizer), Sunday, 22 February 2015 16:43 (nine years ago) link
will port all this over to a new thread when I get 'ome.
― Fizzles, Sunday, 22 February 2015 16:45 (nine years ago) link
Saw the trailer when I went to see Goodbye to Language (another film of tiny bits of very beautifully done sound) (as almost all Godard) and I quite like to see this as well.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 22 February 2015 20:03 (nine years ago) link
Thanks for reminding me that I missed my chance to see "Goodbye to Language" in Chicago, apparently. How does Herzog get a 3D documentary about a cave into theatres, and Wenders gets a 3D doc about a dance into theaters, but Godard's lauded latest barely sneaks in for a couple of weeks? And alas because this is meant for 3D, I have a sad feeling that means I will never get to see it.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 22 February 2015 20:13 (nine years ago) link
I was quite taken with Duke of Burgundy.
The psych/soft folk soundtrack by Cat's Eye sounded good as well.
― the gabhal cabal (Bob Six), Sunday, 22 February 2015 22:38 (nine years ago) link
i missed this at ifc, sadfacejosh, tbf, both herzog and wenders' films are narrative and about subjects people can easily grasp and are in focus
― the plight of y0landa (forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 February 2015 03:08 (nine years ago) link
Hope I manage to see this next week.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 23 February 2015 03:27 (nine years ago) link
I seen it. Very lovely and cosy, I wish I lived there. It is a lot like Morgiana minus the crime and identical twin stuff. At the beginning I thought the plot was going to be totally unimportant but it gradually becomes more interesting. I think it's too long but I liked it a lot.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 22:58 (nine years ago) link