the tea party is not grass roots and barely a movement
― iatee, Friday, 13 December 2013 17:27 (ten years ago) link
now THIS is a movement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzsFJolrYuI
― SHAUN (DJP), Friday, 13 December 2013 17:32 (ten years ago) link
piece on the demographic doom argument and possible overselling of - http://www.democracyjournal.org/31/demography-is-not-destiny.php
polls showing some rebound for obamacare and obama, possible dead cat bounce but also possible the 'worst' is over. presumably cancellation wave has peaked so bad news cycles maybe in the past. byron york et al have been selling this argument that aca has hurt obama w/ millenials but any dip there almost surely just a reflection of larger decline and if tied to any issue more likely to be nsa or just dumb disillusionment right? which both tie into a certain libertarianism but any lack of support for obamacare there would be symptomatic and not causative right? curious if the 'govt can't solve problems, govt is the problem' trend in polling that's prompted a million 'obamacare has killed liberalism for a generation' thinkpieces from the left and right will hold in any way remotely long term ie current levels six months, a year from now. midterms will almost definitely be ugly anyway but w/ the grownups clearly back in charge of the gop the opportunities for damage control via tea party overreach are gonna be a lot lower than in 2012 or 2010. some pol could probably combine public sentiment for taxing the rich w/ public sentiment for shrinking the govt into a serious deficit hawk position. if, yknow, the public remotely actually gave a fuck about balancing the budget.
― balls, Friday, 13 December 2013 17:42 (ten years ago) link
with so few seats in contention doesn't look like Dems will suffer blowout in House. As for millennial, threaten to fine them and they'll sign up at the last minute, like everybody else.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 December 2013 17:54 (ten years ago) link
yeah I see parallels in obamacare with how people go about their business on tax day - freaking the fuck out to get it done at the absolute last minute. its how we roll.
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 13 December 2013 18:05 (ten years ago) link
meanwhile in georgia hopes are pinned to jason carter and michelle nunn and yes that carter and that nunn. heard someone on the radio describe michelle nunn as a typical liberal like her 'notoriously liberal' father which almost caused me to swerve off the road. possible there's enough carpet baggers that have moved to the state since her dad was in office that that line could be sellable.
― balls, Friday, 13 December 2013 18:08 (ten years ago) link
Here we go again re the debt limit, maybe?
From Wall Street Journal
With a bipartisan budget deal now on track to pass, the debt limit is looming as a focal point for the next high-stakes fiscal battle between Democrats and Republicans, as well as between tea-party and business-friendly factions of the GOP, as candidates position for the midterm elections.
Conservative lawmakers and advocacy groups are pushing GOP leaders to make big demands of President Barack Obama early next year in exchange for increasing the debt limit, which the Treasury says should be raised sometime by early March for the government to continue paying all its bills.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 17 December 2013 20:42 (ten years ago) link
lol gl gop
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 December 2013 20:46 (ten years ago) link
yes, lets take the attention off of Obamacare and remind folks how bad we can be
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 17 December 2013 20:49 (ten years ago) link
be vv surprised if they carried through w all but a halfhearted attempt
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 December 2013 20:52 (ten years ago) link
yeah i thought the whole point of the budget deal was showing that the gop are grownups capable of governing and that stunts like the shutdown are in the past and weren't their fault anyway (hence all the 'the budget deal only got done cuz the tyrant obama wasn't involved' stories popping up)
― balls, Tuesday, 17 December 2013 20:55 (ten years ago) link
heard someone on the radio describe michelle nunn as a typical liberal like her 'notoriously liberal' father which almost caused me to swerve off the road.
lol'd irl at this
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 21:55 (ten years ago) link
Some good reading on Abscam, and the Church Committee, whether you were around in the '70s or not:
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/11/30/the-real-life-fbistingbehindamericanhustle.html
http://www.salon.com/2013/12/14/abscam_the_nsa_and_the_70s_the_real_american_hustle/
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 December 2013 16:01 (ten years ago) link
advocacy groups are pushing GOP leaders to make big demands
the leopards have not changed their spots
― Aimless, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 18:56 (ten years ago) link
Good times in the press corps
― Multiple Miggs (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 19 December 2013 11:33 (ten years ago) link
Blah blah blah, DC is fake, Kentucky is real ....la dee dah...zzzzz
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 19 December 2013 14:47 (ten years ago) link
Marcy Wheeler: NSA review group a whitewash.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 December 2013 15:08 (ten years ago) link
Probably you can't have a group of complete outsiders tell the national security teams how to run their business, unless you want a bunch of idealistic, utopian bullshit hopes-n-dreams recommendations.
― Multiple Miggs (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 19 December 2013 15:39 (ten years ago) link
Full employment. A higher inflation target to make monetary policy work better in these times, alongside government spending to ensure the Federal Reserve can do its job. Paired with a much more active role for the government in public investment.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/18/opinion/edsall-is-the-safety-net-just-masking-tape.html?hp&rref=opinion&_r=0&pagewanted=all
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 19 December 2013 16:12 (ten years ago) link
i want to marry Mike Konczal btw
― creating an ilHOOSion usic sight and sound (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 19 December 2013 16:50 (ten years ago) link
ps dean baker & jared bernstein's short book getting back to full employment hits a lot of these points and is awesome and free to download at CEPR
― creating an ilHOOSion usic sight and sound (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 19 December 2013 16:52 (ten years ago) link
― Multiple Miggs (dandydonweiner), Thursday, December 19, 2013 3:39 PM (
The Guardian article makes clear you can't even have a few suggestions from former insiders considered.
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 19 December 2013 17:04 (ten years ago) link
konczal is awesome and so is that latest baker freebie (http://www.cepr.net/index.php/publications/books/getting-back-to-full-employment-a-better-bargain-for-working-people). the other freebie of baker's i read rules too (http://www.cepr.net/index.php/publications/books/the-end-of-loser-liberalism). i suppose baker's been too correct about scamerica for years now ever to be influential with the assholes who run the show, but it's good to know there are people consistently calling bullshit on those assholes
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 19 December 2013 17:09 (ten years ago) link
well and it amazed me that the other night i went to a thing where he was shilling the book and it was *packed*, i was like "wow this is a room full of people in expensive suits with gray hair who get it, i didn't know that was a thing"
― creating an ilHOOSion usic sight and sound (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 19 December 2013 17:58 (ten years ago) link
that is awesome to hear. for spotting the housing bubble way ahead of time, dean baker should be chairman of the fed or at least secretary of the treasury afaic
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 19 December 2013 18:30 (ten years ago) link
sorry dude, rip
http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2540989
― napgenius (goole), Thursday, 19 December 2013 22:47 (ten years ago) link
i
what
― creating an ilHOOSion usic sight and sound (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 20 December 2013 07:43 (ten years ago) link
that's some great journalism there. that guy should be very proud of himself. not creepy at all.
― the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Friday, 20 December 2013 10:22 (ten years ago) link
non-celebrities who volunteer to participate in public service ads are the worst
― Aimless, Friday, 20 December 2013 17:14 (ten years ago) link
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/conservatives-freak-over-pajama-boy
― curmudgeon, Friday, 20 December 2013 17:24 (ten years ago) link
The conservatives are making this attack bcz they understand the role of symbols and irrational emotional reactions in politics. This is what reactionaries excel at.
― Aimless, Friday, 20 December 2013 17:31 (ten years ago) link
Sarah Palin and the Duck Dynasty guy are palling around now
― curmudgeon, Friday, 20 December 2013 18:56 (ten years ago) link
glad they found each other
― Ornate Coleman (Moodles), Friday, 20 December 2013 19:17 (ten years ago) link
Is this better or worse than another week of black Santa/black Jesus?
― An Android Pug of Some Kind? (kingfish), Friday, 20 December 2013 19:25 (ten years ago) link
These things give us a chance to go ha ha; but meanwhile the budget stays at a level near what Paul Ryan wanted, unemployment insurance has not been extended, and the President rejected a proposed NSA change
― curmudgeon, Friday, 20 December 2013 19:50 (ten years ago) link
less entertaining than ha ha
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 December 2013 20:07 (ten years ago) link
less ha ha than eat shit plebes
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 20 December 2013 20:14 (ten years ago) link
more samantha powers interventionism - http://bit.ly/1etlQpL
― balls, Friday, 20 December 2013 20:19 (ten years ago) link
so why does the US obliterate so many Afghan/Yemeni weddings?
http://www.salon.com/2013/12/20/american_medias_deplorable_record_on_drone_war_coverage_partner/
"Fifteen Yemenis on their way to a wedding were killed by a US drone. But it wasn't a gay wedding, so Obama's off the hook." - DP
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 December 2013 21:21 (ten years ago) link
They hate us for our freedom. We hate them for their nuptials.
― Aimless, Friday, 20 December 2013 21:24 (ten years ago) link
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2013/12/a-sharp-progressive-joins-the-doj.html
this is excellent news, especially if it means obama is warming her up for a long-overdue appointment to the federal bench. i saw her speak at my school when i was an undergrad -- really smart and interesting lady
― k3vin k., Saturday, 21 December 2013 02:22 (ten years ago) link
https://pic.twitter.com/UQ9cvGAONY
― balls, Sunday, 22 December 2013 02:08 (ten years ago) link
the intellectualizer in me wants to say that this stockman race will be interesting in showing just how strong The Crazy is vs an established (and very conservative!) pol in the gop, and how the rest of the party handles it.
but that's bullshit really it's just kind of entertaining.
― napgenius (goole), Sunday, 22 December 2013 02:21 (ten years ago) link
This McCain feature in Sunday's NYT magazine is a treat.
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 12:33 (ten years ago) link
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/12/22/magazine/john-mccain.html?hpw=&rref=magazine
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 12:35 (ten years ago) link
I couldn't believe an editor got away with assigning a cover out of it though
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 12:38 (ten years ago) link
I saw the cover and thought do I really want to read more about McCain, and skipped it. So it really has stuff in it worth reading?
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 16:28 (ten years ago) link
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/edward-snowden-after-months-of-nsa-revelations-says-his-missions-accomplished/2013/12/23/49fc36de-6c1c-11e3-a523-fe73f0ff6b8d_story.html?hpid=z1
http://www.washingtonpost.com/todays_paper/updates/
Washington Post newsprint headline for their top of page A1 interview: Edward Snowden: 'I already won'
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 16:33 (ten years ago) link
charles pierce is killing it
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/Christmas_In_Two_Nations_Part_One
fuck you, republicans
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/christmas-serial-part-2-122413
eat shit, "conservatives"
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/christmas-serial-part-3-122413
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 20:17 (ten years ago) link
charles pierce is forever awesome.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Wednesday, 25 December 2013 01:28 (ten years ago) link