American Politics Thread 2013: I'm a cool Rodham grandma in the USA

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yes, lets take the attention off of Obamacare and remind folks how bad we can be

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 17 December 2013 20:49 (ten years ago) link

be vv surprised if they carried through w all but a halfhearted attempt

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 December 2013 20:52 (ten years ago) link

yeah i thought the whole point of the budget deal was showing that the gop are grownups capable of governing and that stunts like the shutdown are in the past and weren't their fault anyway (hence all the 'the budget deal only got done cuz the tyrant obama wasn't involved' stories popping up)

balls, Tuesday, 17 December 2013 20:55 (ten years ago) link

heard someone on the radio describe michelle nunn as a typical liberal like her 'notoriously liberal' father which almost caused me to swerve off the road.

lol'd irl at this

combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 21:55 (ten years ago) link

Some good reading on Abscam, and the Church Committee, whether you were around in the '70s or not:

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/11/30/the-real-life-fbistingbehindamericanhustle.html

http://www.salon.com/2013/12/14/abscam_the_nsa_and_the_70s_the_real_american_hustle/

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 December 2013 16:01 (ten years ago) link

advocacy groups are pushing GOP leaders to make big demands

the leopards have not changed their spots

Aimless, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 18:56 (ten years ago) link

Good times in the press corps

Multiple Miggs (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 19 December 2013 11:33 (ten years ago) link

Blah blah blah, DC is fake, Kentucky is real ....la dee dah...zzzzz

curmudgeon, Thursday, 19 December 2013 14:47 (ten years ago) link

Probably you can't have a group of complete outsiders tell the national security teams how to run their business, unless you want a bunch of idealistic, utopian bullshit hopes-n-dreams recommendations.

Multiple Miggs (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 19 December 2013 15:39 (ten years ago) link

Full employment. A higher inflation target to make monetary policy work better in these times, alongside government spending to ensure the Federal Reserve can do its job. Paired with a much more active role for the government in public investment.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/18/opinion/edsall-is-the-safety-net-just-masking-tape.html?hp&rref=opinion&_r=0&pagewanted=all

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 19 December 2013 16:12 (ten years ago) link

i want to marry Mike Konczal btw

creating an ilHOOSion usic sight and sound (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 19 December 2013 16:50 (ten years ago) link

ps dean baker & jared bernstein's short book getting back to full employment hits a lot of these points and is awesome and free to download at CEPR

creating an ilHOOSion usic sight and sound (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 19 December 2013 16:52 (ten years ago) link

Probably you can't have a group of complete outsiders tell the national security teams how to run their business, unless you want a bunch of idealistic, utopian bullshit hopes-n-dreams recommendations.

― Multiple Miggs (dandydonweiner), Thursday, December 19, 2013 3:39 PM (

The Guardian article makes clear you can't even have a few suggestions from former insiders considered.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 19 December 2013 17:04 (ten years ago) link

konczal is awesome and so is that latest baker freebie (http://www.cepr.net/index.php/publications/books/getting-back-to-full-employment-a-better-bargain-for-working-people). the other freebie of baker's i read rules too (http://www.cepr.net/index.php/publications/books/the-end-of-loser-liberalism). i suppose baker's been too correct about scamerica for years now ever to be influential with the assholes who run the show, but it's good to know there are people consistently calling bullshit on those assholes

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 19 December 2013 17:09 (ten years ago) link

well and it amazed me that the other night i went to a thing where he was shilling the book and it was *packed*, i was like "wow this is a room full of people in expensive suits with gray hair who get it, i didn't know that was a thing"

creating an ilHOOSion usic sight and sound (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 19 December 2013 17:58 (ten years ago) link

that is awesome to hear. for spotting the housing bubble way ahead of time, dean baker should be chairman of the fed or at least secretary of the treasury afaic

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 19 December 2013 18:30 (ten years ago) link

sorry dude, rip

http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2540989

napgenius (goole), Thursday, 19 December 2013 22:47 (ten years ago) link

i

what

creating an ilHOOSion usic sight and sound (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 20 December 2013 07:43 (ten years ago) link

that's some great journalism there. that guy should be very proud of himself. not creepy at all.

the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Friday, 20 December 2013 10:22 (ten years ago) link

non-celebrities who volunteer to participate in public service ads are the worst

Aimless, Friday, 20 December 2013 17:14 (ten years ago) link

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/conservatives-freak-over-pajama-boy

curmudgeon, Friday, 20 December 2013 17:24 (ten years ago) link

The conservatives are making this attack bcz they understand the role of symbols and irrational emotional reactions in politics. This is what reactionaries excel at.

Aimless, Friday, 20 December 2013 17:31 (ten years ago) link

Sarah Palin and the Duck Dynasty guy are palling around now

curmudgeon, Friday, 20 December 2013 18:56 (ten years ago) link

glad they found each other

Ornate Coleman (Moodles), Friday, 20 December 2013 19:17 (ten years ago) link

Is this better or worse than another week of black Santa/black Jesus?

An Android Pug of Some Kind? (kingfish), Friday, 20 December 2013 19:25 (ten years ago) link

These things give us a chance to go ha ha; but meanwhile the budget stays at a level near what Paul Ryan wanted, unemployment insurance has not been extended, and the President rejected a proposed NSA change

curmudgeon, Friday, 20 December 2013 19:50 (ten years ago) link

less entertaining than ha ha

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 December 2013 20:07 (ten years ago) link

less ha ha than eat shit plebes

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 20 December 2013 20:14 (ten years ago) link

more samantha powers interventionism - http://bit.ly/1etlQpL

balls, Friday, 20 December 2013 20:19 (ten years ago) link

so why does the US obliterate so many Afghan/Yemeni weddings?

http://www.salon.com/2013/12/20/american_medias_deplorable_record_on_drone_war_coverage_partner/

"Fifteen Yemenis on their way to a wedding were killed by a US drone. But it wasn't a gay wedding, so Obama's off the hook." - DP

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 December 2013 21:21 (ten years ago) link

They hate us for our freedom. We hate them for their nuptials.

Aimless, Friday, 20 December 2013 21:24 (ten years ago) link

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2013/12/a-sharp-progressive-joins-the-doj.html

this is excellent news, especially if it means obama is warming her up for a long-overdue appointment to the federal bench. i saw her speak at my school when i was an undergrad -- really smart and interesting lady

k3vin k., Saturday, 21 December 2013 02:22 (ten years ago) link

https://pic.twitter.com/UQ9cvGAONY

balls, Sunday, 22 December 2013 02:08 (ten years ago) link

the intellectualizer in me wants to say that this stockman race will be interesting in showing just how strong The Crazy is vs an established (and very conservative!) pol in the gop, and how the rest of the party handles it.

but that's bullshit really it's just kind of entertaining.

napgenius (goole), Sunday, 22 December 2013 02:21 (ten years ago) link

This McCain feature in Sunday's NYT magazine is a treat.

Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 12:33 (ten years ago) link

I couldn't believe an editor got away with assigning a cover out of it though

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 12:38 (ten years ago) link

I saw the cover and thought do I really want to read more about McCain, and skipped it. So it really has stuff in it worth reading?

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 16:28 (ten years ago) link

charles pierce is forever awesome.

Daniel, Esq 2, Wednesday, 25 December 2013 01:28 (ten years ago) link

Except when he sneers at popular country music in a haughty manner and comes across as snotty as the Republicans he criticizes.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 25 December 2013 06:02 (ten years ago) link

http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=21409580

Dude quits his Town Councilman position to run for Senate, writes resignation letter in Klingon.

Also, is running on the Constitution Party ticket, which makes this all that much more perfect.

An Android Pug of Some Kind? (kingfish), Friday, 3 January 2014 17:27 (ten years ago) link

Thought it was mandatory to know both Klingon and Vulcan to oint hat party? ~also Esperanto~

hatcat marnell (suzy), Friday, 3 January 2014 18:35 (ten years ago) link

^join that party

Ooh, think my laptop battery is expanding, tres amusant, Apple....

hatcat marnell (suzy), Friday, 3 January 2014 18:35 (ten years ago) link

charles pierce is killing it

got dayum

j., Friday, 3 January 2014 21:39 (ten years ago) link

check out driftglass.blogspot.com
Charlie Pierce steals megastuff from there

I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Saturday, 4 January 2014 04:26 (ten years ago) link

While almost all working Americans will pay into Social Security through their paychecks throughout the year, the 900 wealthiest people in the country won’t. That’s because the highest-earning 0.0001 percent of the U.S. — many of them corporate CEOs — made $117,000 in the first two days of the year, which is the maximum annual income that is subject to Social Security taxes under federal law.

It’s tough to say for certain who will be a part of this group in 2014, since the most recent available data on Americans’ earnings is from 2012. In that year, 894 individuals nationwide made enough to qualify for membership in this club, according to the Los Angeles Times. Economist Teresa Ghilarducci came up with the calculation, and points out that Forbes data on top earners enables analysts and the public to see some of the members of this group. There were nearly 70 corporate CEOs who made enough to qualify in 2012, including the top officers at companies like Philip Morris, NewsCorp, Starbucks, ComCast, and Pfizer.

They get to live the year free from Social Security taxes because the law says that only the first $117,000 earned in a year can be taxed to fund the retirement program that kept more than 15 million people out of poverty in 2011. Democrats have pushed to raise the cap in recent years from $106,800 in 2009 to the current level. Eliminating the cap entirely could make the program solvent for the next 75 years without cutting a dime from anyone’s benefits — and doing so wouldn’t touch the earnings of 94.2 percent of all American workers.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/01/03/3118281/rich-social-security-taxes/

Ian from Etobicoke (Phil D.), Saturday, 4 January 2014 14:59 (ten years ago) link

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal-a/2014_01/jesse_myerson_throws_down_five048479.php

It’s called “Five Economic Reforms Millennials Should Be Fighting For.” Myerson’s reforms are the following:

1. Guaranteed Work for Everybody
2. Social Security for All
3. Take Back The Land
4. Make Everything Owned by Everybody
5. A Public Bank in Every State
All right, settle down, these proposals are hardly as far-out as they may sound on first hearing. Number one is a public works program, number two is a universal basic income, the third is a land value tax, the fourth is collectivizing wealth ownership by having the government buy up private sector assets and paying a dividend to all citizens (Alaska has a program similar to this in place), and the fifth is pretty much what it says: i.e., a public bank that doesn’t rip off its customers or rape the country.

As Digby points out, the wingnuts are having a meltdown over Myerson’s article

curmudgeon, Monday, 6 January 2014 15:24 (ten years ago) link


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