whiskey

Just watched a guy buy $1500 worth of Pappy, various ages.

ew/lol

This store isn't one I'd figure to stock it but they had a lot. Still some 10 year and 23 year left, $90 and $300-something respectively. I thought about grabbing a 10 (never had it before) but I haven't finished my gift shopping yet and it just seems excessive.

JiC this is Kimbark liquors on 53rd if you're interested.

Done hunting for the season, when suddenly I get an email this morning that the Pennsylvania online store is belatedly selling their allotment of Pappy 15. Signed on and ... snagged a MSRP bottle for my friend with no hassle (beyond having to bring it back here after visiting my folks in PA). Later today, get a text from a friend that the local totally average liquor store had a few bottles of Old Rip 10, which is a solid but not really worth hunting for bourbon nonetheless swept up in the Pappy craze. I went over there and got a (barely marked up) bottle for me and another for a friend, $50 a bottle. That's twice today where stuff in the Van Winkle line more or less fell in my lap. Even my wife thought it was weird, and she's tired of hearing about this stuff.

Wait, did you really say "some" 23 left?! That stuff goes fast, and while I have the only bottle of it I will likely ever buy, $300 is only a bit above MSRP. Considering it's going for $1000 a bottle online, that's not terrible (relatively speaking).

Black bag right? They had at least two on the shelf behind the counter. The dude who spent a grand and a half bought like 3 bottles of the red bag stuff, all they had, plus some others.

Red bag is 20 year. Wow, though, that's pretty low for the 23 (again, relatively speaking), given the gouging out there and on Craigslist. Especially if they were asking $90 for the 10 year.

Done hunting for the season, when suddenly I get an email this morning that the Pennsylvania online store is belatedly selling their allotment of Pappy 15.

already gone?

Man, it was gone in literally five minutes.

I'm going to line up a taste-off between Bulleit Rye, Dickel Rye, and Templeton Rye sometime. Can't wait to realize they're all close to interchangeable.

Finally had a taste of Ancient Ancient Age last night, it was different than I expected but still very good. The bartender seemed astonished I asked for it specifically but shit, apparently they don't even make it any more? (Or at least have changed the name, I guess?)

Boss gave me a bottle of Bookers. 126 proof? jesus

there's a "what the whiskey you receive indicates about what people think of you" fluffpiece in there

I got this stuff as an office gift fwiw:

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you guys are lucky! no one is giving me whiskey :/

yeah, sadly my work is pretty restrictive about alcohol in general, but I suspect my boss would love it if he could contribute to us boozing it up more.

Booker's is one of my favorites

the liquor store guys were having a lively debate about booker's when i went in last night - one guy loves it, other guy thinks it's awful.

i got a bottle of bookers from my boss and the maker's mark 46 from someone who works for me. i'll be enjoying my xmas vacation.

nakh

Connemara Turf Mór Heavily Peated Single Malt

The eagerly waited new peated single malt from Cooley Distillery. Limited in number to around 20,000 bottles.

Heavily peated at around 58 ppm on the phenolic scale. This makes Turf Mór about as peated as Ardbeg and even more smoky than Laphroaig and Lagavulin. Curiously the high level of initial malt peating doesn't always withstand the assault of brewing and distilling, so whilst this is a big smoky monster it still has a certain delicate and fruity character.

Tasting Note:

Wonderfully smoky on the nose. Reminiscent of wet bonfires, lapsang souchon tea, pears and almonds. The palate is light and delicate with fierce smoke and alcohol both launching a two pronged attack on the taste buds. Once the alcohol subsides a clean fresh and fruity character emerges which gradually gives way to lingering dry smokiness. A real joy on the finish, this whiskey seems to go on forever.

£70? i'd rather buy a couple of bottles of ardbeg

Not a fan of Larceny. Or at least I wasn't the one time I was served it.

Got a call on Saturday in the middle of moving, from Binny's.

"Hi, your name was on the Pappy Van Winkle waiting list. Are you still interested?"

"Sure. What do you have left?"

"We have the 10, the 12 and the 15."

"Could I get the 15?"

"Sure, it's yours."

"Wait, didn't you say all those weeks ago that the waiting list was miles long, and that there was really no point?"

"Well, the list was miles long, but we've been steadily going down the list, one bottle per customer at a time."

"Awesome! Thanks."

So you never know.

I'm not a big scotch fan but I had a glass of Laddie 16 last night and that was quite nice.

Looks like Heathrow only stocks cask strength Ardbeg at the moment. Have most of a bottle of the standard Connemara to finish over Christmas which should be fine.

xp i've tried laddie 10 and laddie 22, but not the 16. i'm excited for the stuff they distilled after the distillery reopened to mature - the 10 is fantastic, but i didnt think the 22 was worth the money. not bad, but i was imagining the 10 with 12 more years in the cask, and it ain't that.

my holiday present to myself this year was a bottle of 30 year old talisker. this stuff... dang.

don't mind me i have my revel stoke in a bag over here

my buddy gave me this for xmas/bday, gonna dip into it shortly

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trying to figure out if that bottle is on some unintentional ed hardy ish

Just when I thought it'd be a whiskeyless Christmas I get a bottle of Four Roses yellow label in my stocking.

my parents friends got me a bottle of old overholt. i think their daughter who is sort of a wealthy manhattanite type just discovered a whiskey i was into five years ago, but i'm not gonna complain.

Great rye bargain, that. Harsh straight, I think, but good in an Old Fashioned.

the john e. fitzgerald larceny is alright but probably not something I'd seek out. Decent for the price range.

It's possible the long-predicted bourbon apocalypse is upon us, however subtly. Or maybe just Sazerac. For the first time, all Weller bourbons are MIA here: no Antique107, no 12 year. Binny's says they're expecting them to return in January, but you never know. Plus there are murmurings that the 12 may either go up in price or even lose its age statement, just like what happened to the Antique a few years back, with Buffalo Trace/Sazerac allocating its older juice to its more valuable lines. Who knows. What did happen, and I'd call this pretty sneaky, is that Very Old Barton BIB 100 did quietly lose its age statement, in a really shady way, too. It used to say "Aged 6 Years" around its white collar. It kept the white collar and kept the 6, but lost the "Aged" and "Years." So now it just has a big "6" on it where it used to be, but the 6 means nothing on its own.

distributor's out of Weller Antique 107 in the DC area too based on a trip to the liquor store last weekend

Yeah, it's on. Weller 12 and Antique have been AWOL for a while, Elmer T. Lee getting hard to find, and I've heard that Eagle Rare 10 and plain Buffalo Trace are getting harder to find, too. Can't say they didn't warn us, but I'll still be pretty miffed if this stuff returns at inflated prices, if they return at all. BT has been pretty on-message about keeping Elmer T. Lee around, but I have my doubts. There's a new variant of ETL on its way, and I've heard rumor that Elmer T. Lee could be reduced to an annual release. I hope not.

so *now* there seems to be no buffalo trace around. I've been trying to pick up a replacement bottle for a few weeks and every place I've visited has been out, and the guy at the store I was at this evening said he can't currently get any in stock.

he did get some eagle rare though, so I picked up that instead

had this on Saturday and it was pretty extraordinary, tasted alongside the Yamazaki 18 and Nikka 21 and it was head and shoulders above (but insanely expensive and impossible to find)
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green spot is now the go-to

green spot is my fav irish by a mile, that stuff is just pure pleasure

xpost Told you re: Buffalo Trace! Anyway, BT, Eagle Rare and a few other things have made their way back to shelves locally. I'm hearing any time for Weller 12 and OWA, with supposedly no price hike. Hearing a bit later for Elmer T. Lee. Though on all these fronts, no one knows until they actually show.

See, now things are just getting cynical. The last Parker's Heritage bottle was an overpriced $80 or $90 for a 10-year old, modest-proofed bourbon, but $20 of that price went straight to ALS research. But now comes the real march of stupidly overpriced limited edition bourbon. There's Diageo's fake dusties brands ("Old Blowhard," et al) of old mystery juice, likely salvaged from the old Bernheim distillery. There's the upcoming hyper-premium re-release of the entire PHC set. There was of course that absolutely ridiculous $3000+ bottle of bourbon with neither an age statement nor distillery info. And now comes the Booker's 25th anniversary bottle, which contains, illogically, 10-year old whiskey and will sell for, what, $100? Something like that? Just getting silly. I concede it was annoying that Heaven Hill discontinued its 18-year old Elijah Craig, which sold for $50, and replaced it with a series of 20-year+ bottles that sell for literally three times as much, but at least you know exactly how old it is and where it came from. These premium non-disclosed bourbons like Jeffersons, or premium younger bourbons like the Bookers ... I say bleh to that.

This is why Pappy, if you can get it, is still something of a bargain. Pappy 15 I've bought for $50-$80 a bottle the past three years. Each year has been more money than the last, but it's a known-quantity good thing. 15-years old, higher proof, consistently high standard. But this other shit going for twice as much for half as much, with next to nothing known about what's inside? Shameful.

how's Stagg Jr? local store emailed that they got some.

Over-priced, kind of harsh, cynically named, not worth any sort of hype or excitement.

;_;

i don't really agree with josh's assessment. if you are in the market for barrel proof bourbon you only have so many options. it's comparably priced to things like booker's (which is a little cheaper, a lot younger, prob not as good on the balance) and four roses sb barrel strength (better but good luck finding it on the reg).

my opinion prob not worth much but it's pretty good--experiment with adding different amounts of water and you'll find the sweet spot.

Sure, almost any whiskey can be made better/different with ice or water.

xpost I dunno about where you are, but pretty much all 8 (right?) of the Four Roses barrel strength blends are available here year 'round for about $55. And they're all better/more interesting than Stagg Jr.

i thought it was good (caveat being there's very little "bad" bourbon coming from the big 7 (wild turkey is on probation)). sometimes you just need that barrel-proof kick and don't want to deplete your stagg/wlw stash.

xp yeah i don't seem them regularly in mass. these days, certainly not all 8, some places will get one at a time.

booker's is one of my faves