no news there rlly
It is a helpful story because it makes very explicit the degree to which our intelligence agencies imagine themselves to be sovereign states, answerable to no law but their own interests. They throw a thin disguise over this attitude by speaking as if their own interests were always absolutely identical to US interests, when in reality they are the tail that thinks it ought to wag the dog.
― Aimless, Friday, 17 January 2014 19:23 (ten years ago) link
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/116253/edward-snowden-glenn-greenwald-julian-assange-what-they-believe
― Mordy , Tuesday, 21 January 2014 01:14 (ten years ago) link
the fuck is up with that guy
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 January 2014 01:26 (ten years ago) link
Willentz sounds Deeply Saddened that these two men don't believe in Democratic states.
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 January 2014 01:31 (ten years ago) link
Snowden, it seems, mostly engaged in postadolescent banter about sex and Internet gaming—and occasionally mused about firearms. “I have a Walther P22,” he wrote. “It’s my only gun, but I love it to death.” The Walther P22, a fairly standard handgun, is not especially fearsome, but Snowden’s affection for it hinted at some of his developing affinities.
― this harmless group of nerds and the women that love them (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 January 2014 01:32 (ten years ago) link
A response:
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 January 2014 01:38 (ten years ago) link
That New Republic article is just crazy. I don't give two flips what sort of ideological mess of pottage Snowden or Assange might carry around in their brains or what self-contradictory views they may hold about various leftist sacred cows. Exposing government corruption and overreach are non-ideological good deeds, unconnected to whatever beliefs motivated them.
― Aimless, Tuesday, 21 January 2014 01:41 (ten years ago) link
yeah i would love to read a good greenwald takedown but man that thing is nowhere near it.
― balls, Tuesday, 21 January 2014 02:58 (ten years ago) link
wilentz is pretty useless when he's not writing about 19th century history.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 21 January 2014 03:57 (ten years ago) link
I saw Obama on Jay Leno and Obama noted in response to Leno mentioning how Daniel Ellsberg didn't flee, that yes we have whistleblower protection here in the US. Of course there was no discussion of how Obama's Justice Department has gone after whistleblowers more than any administration in history, and how Ellsberg supports what Snowden has done.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 21 January 2014 16:19 (ten years ago) link
http://motherboard.vice.com/en_ca/blog/maybe-the-most-orwellian-text-message-ever-sent
― Mordy , Wednesday, 22 January 2014 16:11 (ten years ago) link
Wow. Must admit I have not been following the recent Ukraine govt vs protestors events
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 16:13 (ten years ago) link
amazing
― just (Matt P), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 16:15 (ten years ago) link
not amazing actually, just yikes
yurp
― i have the new brutal HOOS if you want it (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 18:29 (ten years ago) link
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/independent-review-board-says-nsa-phone-data-program-is-illegal-and-should-end/2014/01/22/4cebd470-83dd-11e3-bbe5-6a2a3141e3a9_story.html?hpid=z4
But Prez and many others don't care what this board majority thinks, alas
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 23 January 2014 15:30 (ten years ago) link
At risk of dog piling even more info into this thread, the sessions from from the recent Chaos Communication Congress are of exceedingly high quality:http://www.youtube.com/user/CCCen
If you only watch one, watch Paglen's "Seeing The Secret State" presentation. HFS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j56s46e97Lo
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 24 January 2014 11:07 (ten years ago) link
I spent a fruitless half day getting the friend of a certain Rolling Stone writer to recant her addled definition of "traitor" as it applied to Snowden.
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 January 2014 11:50 (ten years ago) link
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/snowden-denies-stealing-passwords-to-access-secret-files/2014/01/23/d1f7d9e4-8472-11e3-8099-9181471f7aaf_story.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-disagrees-with-watchdog-groups-conclusion-that-nsa-phone-program-is-illegal/2014/01/23/7a945564-8464-11e3-8099-9181471f7aaf_story.html
― curmudgeon, Friday, 24 January 2014 16:12 (ten years ago) link
One more thing to read that I haven't read yet http://www.salon.com/2014/01/23/glenn_greenwalds_heroism_standing_up_to_our_new_orwellian_police_state/
― curmudgeon, Friday, 24 January 2014 16:42 (ten years ago) link
got into it on twitter with cathy fitzpatrick today as she insisted that snowden, greenwald, the EFF, and anyone who wants useful encryption are secret anarchists plotting "anarchy, where anarchists are in charge"
― i have the new brutal HOOS if you want it (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 24 January 2014 17:31 (ten years ago) link
that was fun
Uh, who is she?
― curmudgeon, Friday, 24 January 2014 18:09 (ten years ago) link
kinda thinking someone who thinks anarchy is 'where anarchists are in charge' is prob terminally confused about what words mean in general
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 24 January 2014 18:22 (ten years ago) link
― curmudgeon, Friday, January 24, 2014 6:09 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
historian/"human rights activist"/weirdo loved on the right for her writing about the USSR's large body count, with apparently a sideline in the technical details of encryption.
― i have the new brutal HOOS if you want it (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 24 January 2014 19:21 (ten years ago) link
lol, looked her up and immediately found a horrified tweet from her about how 'there really is a magazine called JACOBIN!'
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 24 January 2014 19:37 (ten years ago) link
lmao
― i have the new brutal HOOS if you want it (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 24 January 2014 19:37 (ten years ago) link
Just read a good NYROB piece on Snowden-Manning-Assange. Not up yet, unfortunately.
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 January 2014 19:42 (ten years ago) link
love "where anarchists are in charge"
dreamt last night i was at a party w all my high school friends + snowden; we went out for beer but he convinced me to help raid some vague government facility on our way back and i got beaten up by a russian(?) soldier, then it turned into some weird body horror thing w parasites on my wounds, glad to be awake
― i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour), Friday, 24 January 2014 19:46 (ten years ago) link
Following President Barack Obama's reelection in November, 2012, Fitzpatrick penned an entry on her own blog in which she alleged that Republican challenger Mitt Romney's campaign's "ORCA" digital operation had failed because Targeted Victory, the company responsible for much of its online and digital strategy had employed African-American developers who she alleged to have favored the Obama campaign and whose politics was somehow deliberately reflected as bugs left in their work.
― i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour), Friday, 24 January 2014 19:55 (ten years ago) link
black people bug like this
― just (Matt P), Friday, 24 January 2014 19:57 (ten years ago) link
first mistake was calling it ORCA not MOBY
― i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour), Friday, 24 January 2014 19:58 (ten years ago) link
was going to write something else making light fun of her but christ what a vile person, fuck her
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 24 January 2014 20:04 (ten years ago) link
yeah i hadn't wiki'd her prior to politely engaging on twitter and being met with derision, she's so deep in the black hole of dumb i didn't even want to follow her down to potshots
― i have the new brutal HOOS if you want it (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 24 January 2014 20:12 (ten years ago) link
U.S. Willing to Hold Talks if Snowden Pleads Guilty By STEVE KENNY NY TimesAttorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. did not specify the guilty pleas the Justice Department would expect before it would open talks with Mr. Snowden's lawyers.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 24 January 2014 21:43 (ten years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/25/us/on-childrens-website-nsa-puts-a-furry-smiley-face-on-its-mission.html
― Mordy , Saturday, 25 January 2014 05:03 (ten years ago) link
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090819011825/lossimpson/es/images/9/9c/Poochie.png
― StanM, Saturday, 25 January 2014 09:19 (ten years ago) link
http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTM4ODYwNDY3NF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMjYxNjEzMQ@@._V1_SY317_CR6,0,214,317_.jpg
― lollercoaster of rove (s.clover), Saturday, 25 January 2014 23:50 (ten years ago) link
Talking about that for years over here:
Kids section of websites by professionally paranoid or otherwise creepy organizations
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 26 January 2014 03:44 (ten years ago) link
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-intelligence-director-calls-on-snowden-to-return-nsa-documents/2014/01/29/7bd9c9ee-88f7-11e3-833c-33098f9e5267_story.html?hpid=z1
Clapper focused his opening remarks on Snowden, delivering a blistering stream of criticism in which he described the former contractor for the National Security Agency as a hypocrite who has severely undermined U.S. security.
Clapper said the documents exposed by Snowden have bolstered adversaries, caused allies to curtail cooperation with the United States, enabled terrorist groups to alter the ways they communicate, and put lives of U.S. intelligence operatives at risk.
versus Senator Wyden
At one point, Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) decried what he described as a “culture of misinformation” among U.S. intelligence officials, cataloguing misstatements and falsehoods that had been exposed by Snowden.
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 20:55 (ten years ago) link
http://pando.com/2014/02/04/the-first-congressman-to-battle-the-nsa-is-dead-no-one-noticed-no-one-cares/
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 5 February 2014 02:22 (ten years ago) link
Meanwhile Mike Rogers reminds us why we need a Bill of Rights in the first place.
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 February 2014 02:34 (ten years ago) link
He and Clapper have deleted the first and 4th amendments now
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 16:22 (ten years ago) link
he's gonna force the issue- on principle
― ad music for ad people (Hunt3r), Friday, 7 February 2014 19:18 (ten years ago) link
Surely the Bill of Rights was never intended to tie the government's hands.
― Aimless, Friday, 7 February 2014 19:20 (ten years ago) link
it's not a suicide pact, u kno
― ad music for ad people (Hunt3r), Friday, 7 February 2014 19:23 (ten years ago) link
it would genuinely shock me if GG actually got arrested.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 7 February 2014 19:29 (ten years ago) link
we track 'em, you whack 'em
― ad music for ad people (Hunt3r), Monday, 10 February 2014 17:34 (ten years ago) link
Should there be a thread for the intercept
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 10 February 2014 18:27 (ten years ago) link
That article's great
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 10 February 2014 18:28 (ten years ago) link