TRUE DETECTIVE on hbo - matthew mcconaughey, woody harrelson, michelle monaghan, fukunaga, pizzolatto

that would be the norm, casting-wise.

feeling in rather ok form and inspired, and that show comes along and it looks like some of the stuff that i am into are also in that show, maybe a bit of projection but not entirely; fictions that make themselves real, ryan nerdage seems upthread seems to indicate there could be more of this.

too drunk to read weird realism :lovecraft and philosophy. hope they talk about hyperstition

and that was my day to do so; just watched Voyage To The Planets half asleep by over heating

Still, having a one-scene guy be one of the leads from both The Wire and Treme is a little glaring. (Though of course the next few weeks may prove I'm an idiot.)

― Simon H., Saturday, January 25, 2014 12:03 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

glaring... what? casting?

yeah, in a Chekhov's Guest Star kinda way. I'm probably just being thick though

this show seems pretty knowing about it's tropes so i remain hopeful it's not standard serial killer fare. fwiw those who've seen the first four eps say it gets weirder.

i think already with the layered narrative it seems like it's going somewhere else than you'd expect if you take the 95 plot by itself.

"I'm not interested in creating disgusting monsters or the most bizarre serial killer ever," Pizzolatto tells TVGuide.com. "My primary concern is always the humanism of the characters. Where the show gains its power for an audience, I think, is in things that aren't investigative at all. It's in two men talking to one another in a car. It's in a man coming over to another man's house for dinner and eating with his family. Those are the things that always interest me.

With the police procedural, I think there are a couple tropes there that audiences are incredibly familiar with. ... [I wanted] to use those things as sort of anchors of familiarity for the audience. Then you use that familiarity to gain their attention and trust and then subvert those conceits... through the characters themselves."

...dun DUN

fuck yeah bring it

final episode is a tired, auster-esque reveal in which a slow pan upwards from an aged typewriter reveals Pizzolatto, his face in sharp relief under an angle-poise lamp, slowly typing out the above confession, antlers bloodily meshed to his head

final shot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qweoMJS1DQ8

"Where the show gains its power for an audience, I think, is in things that aren't investigative at all. It's in two men talking to one another in a car"

True. I don't really give a shit whodunnit, tbqh. It's all about the journey...

i just want to see woody j/o mcconaughey (in the car)

Predictions for closing credits tunes:

geto boys "mind playing tricks on me"
butthole surfers "hurdy gurdy man"
zz top "sharp dressed man"

All three at once Zaireeka-style

salt n pepa - shoop (for the first season finale when we get to see woody j/o mcconaughey (in the car)

"I'm not interested in creating disgusting monsters or the most bizarre serial killer ever," Pizzolatto tells TVGuide.com"

Eh, it's a great show and all but you've created a really bizarre serial killer so far dude.

McConaughey gets better with every episode.

i can't take this ratcheting tension, i'm like ragggh just show me the whole thing I wanna know what's gonna happen

but i love it

mcconaughey does some really excellent shit with tiny mannerisms
-not closing his hand over the girl's when he danced
-the way he walks, that tense posture but not beefed up in the shoulders, like he's sleepwalking almost
-those weird expressive mouth sounds he makes in the interview room

he's so good i can't take it

and that beer can shit

- you mowed my lawn?
- it needed mowin'

it's all about the drawl, he's holding some of those vowels so long he's practically singing.

otm

well that was a way to end it.

really the weirdest thing about this show is all the cigarette smoking in cars with the windows down

or rather, windows up.

I'm guessing final shot = dude cooking meth.

finally we see the real impact of breaking bad on the language of tv-making

that last shot was freak city

loved the delivery of that last line too.

cooking meth I buy, tho not sure what use a machete is in that context.

the machete keeps jesse pinkman in line

keep feeling like all off-handed talk about hurricanes--or hurricanes as these historical punctuation marks--is foreshadowing but most likely it's just a gulf coast thing.

so obsessed with this show - McConaughey is hypnotic.

yeah he's great. the character is great. the excited look on his date's face when he showed up was funny.

don't know if it's the makeup or lighting but the still-handsome but harrowed look he has is perfect.

the difference between old him and young him, man that is a killer makeup job

So I don't get it - they were driving in the car determinedly in the penultimate scene, then the cut to the dude. Is that supposed to be the boyfriend of the other chick? Did they already get his address?

i'm starting to wonder about the makeup. they're gonna be spending a LOT of time acting 15 years younger. something artificially worn in the faces. when cohle was unshirted over at hart's house w/ the mower something about his arms just seemed too… gnarled.

liked woody's performance—a lot of instability in his transparent lunges at prevaricating, trying to pretend to a desperation that it seems like he really is too indifferent/self-absorbed to sustain. but then when he's with cohle, he makes him so MAD that all the deadness that he's built up inside him is projected out onto cohle

yes otm

seems like with MM they split the difference and made him look younger than he really does in the flashbacks and older in the present day.

good stuff, j! otm

I'm wondering what's supposed to have happened in the intervening 15 years - Woody's obviously moved up in the world, looking clean and sharp in his fancy suit. Mac by contrast is a total mess. so professional lives diverged significantly for some reason.

in the first episode they mention that Rust went "off the grid" for 8 years.

also: have they even told Woody's character about the lake charles murder?

yeah modern day MM is remembering the compound as vietnam-like and the dude as a monster so that is what we are shown but w/in the bounds of the earlier action, i dont think they know where he lives yet, lil confusing

xp i feel like i haven't seen that in a while, real hatred, a lot of the shows i watch, even when there is some intelligible reason for one character to hate another, it's generally kind of a morally justifiable hatred, but when cohle says to hart's wife that hart -hates- him he's right, it's just like straight up hate, and they haven't known each other long, and cohle hasn't really done anything, not anything like irrevocable, he hasn't -acted- against hart, they've just had these clashes of personality and a couple of altercations, but already that fateful first real conversation in the car has made hart into someone who is becoming dominated by hatred

thinking that rust works low-level/-stakes security now or something - he said that he works 4 days a wk and lives behind a bar -- this was in relation to needing to get beerz to start drinking @ noon on a thurs