TRUE DETECTIVE on hbo - matthew mcconaughey, woody harrelson, michelle monaghan, fukunaga, pizzolatto

yeah he's great. the character is great. the excited look on his date's face when he showed up was funny.

don't know if it's the makeup or lighting but the still-handsome but harrowed look he has is perfect.

the difference between old him and young him, man that is a killer makeup job

So I don't get it - they were driving in the car determinedly in the penultimate scene, then the cut to the dude. Is that supposed to be the boyfriend of the other chick? Did they already get his address?

i'm starting to wonder about the makeup. they're gonna be spending a LOT of time acting 15 years younger. something artificially worn in the faces. when cohle was unshirted over at hart's house w/ the mower something about his arms just seemed too… gnarled.

liked woody's performance—a lot of instability in his transparent lunges at prevaricating, trying to pretend to a desperation that it seems like he really is too indifferent/self-absorbed to sustain. but then when he's with cohle, he makes him so MAD that all the deadness that he's built up inside him is projected out onto cohle

yes otm

seems like with MM they split the difference and made him look younger than he really does in the flashbacks and older in the present day.

good stuff, j! otm

I'm wondering what's supposed to have happened in the intervening 15 years - Woody's obviously moved up in the world, looking clean and sharp in his fancy suit. Mac by contrast is a total mess. so professional lives diverged significantly for some reason.

in the first episode they mention that Rust went "off the grid" for 8 years.

also: have they even told Woody's character about the lake charles murder?

yeah modern day MM is remembering the compound as vietnam-like and the dude as a monster so that is what we are shown but w/in the bounds of the earlier action, i dont think they know where he lives yet, lil confusing

xp i feel like i haven't seen that in a while, real hatred, a lot of the shows i watch, even when there is some intelligible reason for one character to hate another, it's generally kind of a morally justifiable hatred, but when cohle says to hart's wife that hart -hates- him he's right, it's just like straight up hate, and they haven't known each other long, and cohle hasn't really done anything, not anything like irrevocable, he hasn't -acted- against hart, they've just had these clashes of personality and a couple of altercations, but already that fateful first real conversation in the car has made hart into someone who is becoming dominated by hatred

thinking that rust works low-level/-stakes security now or something - he said that he works 4 days a wk and lives behind a bar -- this was in relation to needing to get beerz to start drinking @ noon on a thurs

I think in first episode woody said he had a security consulting business now or something

Lol the ending

All of the dreamlike fading in and out is really twin peaksy

ladies and gentlemen your new nightmare wears a gasmask and y-fronts and carries a machete

xps Hart hates Cohle because he secretly wishes he could be that open about his fucked-upness.

"Girls always know before boys.... because they have to." so otm and so heartbreaking at the same time.

def. a lot of good dialogue in this.

every back-and-forth line they had outside the tent revival was hilarious.

"you have a problem with doubt"
"I doubt that"
lol

yeah they're both pretty good with quippy oneliners

lol yeah love that whole conversation, and the fact that they were having it at a banh mi shack. xp

when cohle says to hart's wife that hart -hates- him he's right, it's just like straight up hate, and they haven't known each other long, and cohle hasn't really done anything, not anything like irrevocable, he hasn't -acted- against hart, they've just had these clashes of personality and a couple of altercations, but already that fateful first real conversation in the car has made hart into someone who is becoming dominated by hatred

if you're referring to the phone call he didn't say that Cohle hated him, he said Steve Geraci did

say that Hart hated him i mean

oh really?? i will have to rewatch! oh well

The final shot of Ledoux (assuming that's him) reminded me of that old Bigfoot footage they used to show on In Search Of, right down to the freeze frame mid-stride as he looks in the camera's direction. So creepy.

godammit was just reminded that this isn't on next week

aw. now sad.

two muthafuckin weeks

jerks

That's ridiculous. Because of the Super Bowl I suppose.

pizzolatto says "Plague Doctors" inspired the look of the gas mask fella:
http://www.delpiano.com/carnival/html/medico_peste.html

yikes

Sound design on this episode was incredible. Those of you watching on laptops please use headphones!

Excited for next episode!

Loved how Woody kept pouring the beer back and forth

I'm sure an animated GIF jockey out in TumblrLand has made a loop of Mac's "The world needs bad men..." line w/cigarette lighting.

also: have they even told Woody's character about the lake charles murder?

― ryan, Monday, January 27, 2014 5:42 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah and they showed him the picture of the crime scene right?

that speech at the end is so haunting

last show that was on tv that I ever felt compelled to rewatch each episode every week was Twin Peaks. and now True Detective.
love! this show!

oh I guess they just showed Cohle the photo... Maybe we're supposed to assume both saw it.

I'll def rewatch all three of these that have aired in the week off. Show deserves it.

The final shot of Ledoux (assuming that's him) reminded me of that old Bigfoot footage they used to show on In Search Of

First thing I thought of:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3e4hyE6HUcA/UItP3pgYg4I/AAAAAAAAKXs/auJ5kMX_eZU/s640/safe.jpg

(or, I guess with proper context):

http://neongrandpa.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/url.jpeg

So these young detectives are trying to pin the murders on Cohle, right?

well if they are that beerterview ain't gonna stand up for shit

beerterview lol

I still can't figure out exactly what they're up to other than investigating the lake charles murder. the "meaningful" glances exchanged--and the implications of off screen discussions between them--are so intriguing. the one who seems to be in charge is doing some brilliant acting. both are, in fact.

Marty has had to literally defend Cohle several times already. I'm guessing he will have to solve the real mystery after Cohle is accused of being the monster and can't be bothered to deny it.

I don't know anything about detective work but there's sure no way they'd show the main suspect a photograph of the crime scene, surely?

re: Nude Bane, the villain unveiled at the conclusion of this episode, i am definitely glad that he's introduced in the shadow of existing, retro-active suspicion over his guilt - that he can be as creepy or as perfect as possible while still also riding on our suspicion that he was too easy a catch, just some generally creepy guy, not the actual real deal. he'll presumably have the dna for ~classic creepy noir drama killer~, but kinda acknowledging that and undercutting it gives them a way to fool with it less cloyingly.

i still think this is a pretty weird show, like a lot of it's kinda trashy - every slow, lingering drive-by of a fetishistically hick-ish/pornographically socioeconomically deprived cast of characters feels super indulgent - but mcconaughey is magnetic. & woody harrelson's little boy face, after his lawn got mowed, was his first moment of credibility, so far, i think.

woody's or "marty's"?

I agree for sure that there's some indulgence but I've thought that the world must sometimes appear that way to a cop. everyone shifty and desperate and impoverished and just sorta crushed and controlled by forces around them. noir at it's finest, eh?

they definitely capture something of what the rural gulf coast feels like. eating outside at the banh mi shack was a nice touch.

that dude mowing the lawn looked like he'd seen a thing or two

fwiw I thot Rust's musing on "what is owed between us for our mutual illusions" while the camera lingers over a table filled with photographs of dead women is definitely a cake and eating it too moment but it was a bracing moment of self-consciousness anyway.