Pauline Kael

Too bad Kael retired before Death Becomes Her came out. Can't think of a Streep performance that would've been more up her alley.

good work; can't say i'm suprised, cuz it's Karina Longworth.

― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, January 30, 2014 12:24 PM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark

who

she does some great stuff then she says 'trash humpers' is the best movie of the year so idk

For a second I thought above post was re: Kael, which confused me on several levels.

this essay was weird. she acknowledges that streep's comments about kael were gross (streep basically accused her of reverse racism, and only after kael wasn't around to respond - would love to be a fly on the wall if kael came up at a lunch between streep and andrew sarris), but then basically suggests in the closing paragraph that streep was right, at least in that kael's critique was not worth taking seriously. only she never explains what exactly kael failed to grasp about streep's work in the '80s. I do think Kael would have liked some of Streep's later work - at her best (usually in comedies), she reminds me of a professor who finally relaxed after getting tenure.

and yeah, "an incensed pan" is a shockingly reductive way to describe a review that contains lines like "The Deer Hunter is a small-minded film with greatness in it - Cimino's technique has pushed him further than he has been able to think out."

I can't place in which essay Kael wondered aloud how awesome Streep would be if she starred in more comedies.

I do think Kael would have liked some of Streep's later work - at her best (usually in comedies), she reminds me of a professor who finally relaxed after getting tenure.

One performance I think she would have liked--maybe even loved--was Streep in Albert Brooks' Defending Your LIfe. She's so flaky and funny in that film. Kael's last review was L.A. Story, which came out, according to IMDB, Feb. 8, 1991; Defending Your LIfe was March 22, 1991, so she just missed it.

She's become an actor only capable of greatness -- great theatricality or great awfulness -- which I think she would've responded to.

So winning that third Oscar was akin to Streep becoming university president.

Yes, the Academy of the Overrated.

The third Oscar was more an emeritus thing. She should have got it for Julie and Julia, between that and the memo getting out she hadn't actually won in like twenty years, she was officially Overdue An Oscar and got one as soon as the competition waned, almost irrespective to the winning role's quality.

No doubt. The "she MUST have a third Oscar" campaign began in 2002 and got more and more absurd (I prefer TDWP though). Those two consecutive late nineties nods look ridiculous in retrospect as I don't remember enthusiasm for either movie and she had no buzz.

great theatricality or great awfulness

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Exactly!

She should have got it for Julie and Julia

she was good in this otherwise terrible movie

she loved Taylor in that one, X Y & Zee xp

certainly not what Streep seemed to be aiming for 30 years ago, is it? She's very funny in Demme's Manchurian Candidate, maybe Kael would've liked that.

can we agree she's awful when she tries to be "light"? In It's Complicated every other sound is a giggle, every line a roll of the eyes. It's like ugggggh choke on your Oscar, lady

Ranking the "Streep's overdue" string:

The Devil Wears Prada
Julie v. Julia
Doubt
The Iron Lady

Adaptation is probably better than any of them tho, excepting maybe Prada.

She should have got it for Julie and Julia

devil wears prada

Ranking the "Streep's overdue" string:

The Devil Wears Prada
Julie v. Julia
Doubt
The Iron Lady

tom except The Iron Lady is rank, not deserving of rank.

Too bad Kael retired before Death Becomes Her came out. Can't think of a Streep performance that would've been more up her alley.

― Alfre, Lord Woodard (Eric H.), Thursday, January 30, 2014 1:01 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This. The movie, too--just the right blend of light playfulness and giddy tastelessness that I could see Kael responding to.

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prada too, yeah, though that would have been a supporting award - i just think that losing after one of her rare truly loved performances to sandra bullock's corn tipped the scales for an "ok, next time WE PROMISE" Scent of A Woman trophy. I wouldn't be surprised if McConaughey's getting his this year, with DiCaprio then "seriously overdue" after that.

tom except The Iron Lady is rank, not deserving of rank.

Granted.

Agree that The Devil Wears Prada is the best performance of the "Streep's overdue" run, but the movie lets her down by being more about Anne Hathaway's dullard of a character than about Streep's.

The Iron Lady still the strangest bad movie I've seen in years; why make a film about so contentious a figure and then have the whole thing be her stumbling around her house talking to her dead husband?

you prefer a movie about Thatcher stumbling around the White House talking to a dead Reagan?

Might be an improvement.

would've preferred a movie of her eating babies

poor, card-carrying union member babies

The Devil Wears Prada and The Iron Lady are on my never-watch list

(Pauline Kael's too, I hear)

like Julie and Julia, DWP features a decent Streep perf in an otherwise abominable movie

The Devil Wears Prada is an easy watch! Fast forward thru the Hathaway parts (Tucci's good too).

Yes! DWP so needs a Phantom Menace-style fan edit!

it's interesting how except for TIL her need-a-third-Oscar-run consists of modest to huge box office hits. I mean, like, she's a legit star now.

Not a single one of the last five movies Streep has been nominated for are really any good. (Nor are most of the rest of the movies she was nominated for, as it turns out.)

man A Cry in the Dark really is the best of those movies, isn't it?

trying to think if she's ever done a straight horror flick...? I would be into that

Closest she got was probably The River Wild. Or Mamma Mia.

*rimshot*

I love that photo of Kael writing on a legal pad in the Longworth piece, all her books on the first shelf next to her head.

Kael on A Cry in the Dark:

"Streep has seen that Lindy's hardness saves a part of her from the quizzing and prying of journalists and lawyers-that she needs her impersonal manner to keep herself intact. (From time to time, Streep suggests the strong emotions that Lindy hides in public, and we feel a bond with her-we feel joined to her privacy.) There are wonderful night scenes of the search for the baby in the blackness around Ayers Rock, in the Outback, and the movie is never less than gripping. But Schepisi, who worked on the script with Robert Caswell (it's based on John Bryson's study of the case, Evil Angels), put together more elements than he could develop. The film is like an expanded, beautifully made TV Movie of the Week. Streep seems to be playing a person in a documentary."

It's a movie that could be longer, yeah – not something I'll admit often.

I think I'd actually be more interested in reading Kael's thoughts on various actors and actresses today--McConaughey, Anne Hathaway, etc. (I'm sure there are better examples)--than directors.

From that Kellow bio, on OK's life when she ran an arthouse in Berkeley in the late '50s:

“With the house on Oregon Street, Pauline at last had a real workspace where she could spread out and be genuinely productive. Where the two front rooms divided, she set up a movie screen and constantly ran 16 mm films on a giant projector. She wrote at a drafting table, often standing up, a cigarette in one hand and a glass of Wild Turkey in the other, with her favorite Bessie Smith records playing. She stayed up late at night, reading obsessively and scribbling articles to submit to The Partisan Review.”

*PK's life

Driving home today, thinking about PSH and Almost Famous, and how that was turned into an unlikely film--essentially, one about rock criticism--and how he was also in Moneyball, a film about (at least it was supposed to be) sabermetrics, I started wondering if Brian Kellow has been approached about using his book as the basis for a movie. I bet he has--every potential property gets snapped up by someone, right? I’d love to see a film about Kael’s life. Ninety-nine out of 100 times I’d want a documentary, but weirdly, this is one instance where I’d want to see someone play her. It strikes me as such a perfect life for a film. It would probably end up pleasing no one and angering many, and it could well be an awful idea. But if you pulled it off, I can imagine a great film there. Her voice-in-the-wilderness years, taking on Sarris, the Sound of Music dust-up, the Last Tango and Nashville furors, going out to Hollywood, etc.--there’s so much there. If the idea appalls you, I understand.

So: who would play her? Yes--I see Meryl Streep plain as day. Unless they signed up the woman on SCTV who did her so well. (Not Andrea Martin, who also played her--it was someone else.)

A period biopic about a film critic -- imagine the bidding war.

Streep as Kael only if its a comedy.

i don't see kael's life particularly working on the screen - the period that would most involve directly communicating with people is the time in hollywood, which would just be her waiting to meet with Beatty and having frustrating talks with James Toback. It's not like you can pad out the last third of a movie with quotes from her reviews like Kellow did his book.

I'm sure Streep would be down for a Mommie Dearest style version, though.