i had forgotten about his lebowski role until this happened---so perfect
― gbx, Monday, 3 February 2014 00:42 (ten years ago) link
Love Lebowski, but somehow his role in it never stands out for me. On the other hand: Synecdoche, New York, Boogie Nights, Happiness, The Talented Mr. Ripley, 25th Hour, Love Liza, Owning Mahoney--hell, he was even great in the otherwise worthless Mission: Impossible III. I have a feeling I might be able to add The Master to that list had I seen it yet.
Damn. Just...damn.
― Inside Lewellyn Sinclair (cryptosicko), Monday, 3 February 2014 00:54 (ten years ago) link
just wanna stand up for MI3 for a second here its pretty good
― socki (s1ocki), Monday, 3 February 2014 00:55 (ten years ago) link
it's much better than the second one that's for sure but i thought in general ghost protocol blew it away
― balls, Monday, 3 February 2014 01:00 (ten years ago) link
i remember he did loser creeps so well (thinking of happiness here esp but scent of a woman and boogie nights have aspects of that as well) that i thought he might get stuck in that mode
Me too. I wrote that blog piece very early, right after Happiness. Then he did a 180 and played just the sweetest, gentlest character imaginable in Magnolia; my feelings on the film have changed over the years, sometimes liking it more than at other times, but I've never wavered on how great he is. And whenever he needed to go back into creep mode, he did so effortlessly--found him scary in Punch Drunk Love. Thought his phone showdown with Sandler was the best thing in that film.
― clemenza, Monday, 3 February 2014 01:38 (ten years ago) link
still need to see the master
― gbx, Monday, 3 February 2014 01:48 (ten years ago) link
I want to play something for my students tomorrow, think I'll go with this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k0-pSCwcx4
I have to be careful about language, but I'm sure they can handle "hell of a disease."
― clemenza, Monday, 3 February 2014 02:01 (ten years ago) link
Watched The Hunger Games 2 today, was thinking what a pleasure he was to watch in even a relatively minor and thankless role. Heard the news shortly after finishing the film. RIP, his was a career you felt was not yet near its apex. Reckon he had another oscar in him.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, 3 February 2014 02:22 (ten years ago) link
ugh. Haven't been this bummed out since DFW died.
― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Monday, 3 February 2014 02:23 (ten years ago) link
It really is just gutting. It's weird how a guy can be so iconic yet so ... like PHS was. Many new him, but was he a star? He was a great actor, but I think easy to overlook. All sorts of contradictions, many no doubt because he was such a good actor he put the role first. (sorry, been drinking) Have there been any/many public statements? PTA?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 February 2014 03:32 (ten years ago) link
He was one of the few universally agreed-upon Great Actors, among both casual film fans and nerds/critics, plus he was quite young, and seemed much more down-to-earth / less pretentious than anyone he might be compared with. This struck a very unique nerve.
― Simon H., Monday, 3 February 2014 03:40 (ten years ago) link
Like, when Daniel Day-Lewis passes, I can't imagine people taking it this personally.
― Simon H., Monday, 3 February 2014 03:42 (ten years ago) link
yeah...it's weird to think of just how famous and respected he was without seeming to make too many concessions to the business. like, if the closest thing to 'selling out' that he did was kick ass in a Mission Impossible movie and be pretty funny in a middling Ben Stiller movie,
― scott c-word (some dude), Monday, 3 February 2014 03:49 (ten years ago) link
Streep's a good comparison as far as range and fully embodying a character.
― tbd (Eazy), Monday, 3 February 2014 04:07 (ten years ago) link
I never knew he had a problem, and I guess he was candid about it from what I heard today on the radio. I haven't really ever been sad about an actor passing, but this hit me today while driving. I keep remembering him in Love Liza.
― JacobSanders, Monday, 3 February 2014 04:10 (ten years ago) link
Streep's a good comparison as far as range and fully embodying a character.― tbd (Eazy), Monday, 3 February 2014 04:07 (3 minutes ago) Permalink
― tbd (Eazy), Monday, 3 February 2014 04:07 (3 minutes ago) Permalink
buscemi, too. (boardwalk empire, aside)
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Monday, 3 February 2014 04:12 (ten years ago) link
So sad. Addiction is horrible and scary.
― DonkeyTeeth, Monday, 3 February 2014 04:12 (ten years ago) link
I was surprised to find CNN devoting so much airtime to it today. He's a major actor, but not really a celebrity, so I'm a bit surprised they'd care so much. I'm assuming its the drug angle that is responsible for the coverage--like, so people who haven't seen his movies and probably do nothing but watch CNN can sit there and cluck their tongues over Hollywood druggies.
― Inside Lewellyn Sinclair (cryptosicko), Monday, 3 February 2014 04:13 (ten years ago) link
i cant imagine anyone not liking, or loving him
― socki (s1ocki), Monday, 3 February 2014 04:17 (ten years ago) link
― Inside Lewellyn Sinclair (cryptosicko), Sunday, February 2, 2014 11:13 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
he was in a lot of movies
i think the best actor oscar tipped him pretty well into genuine celebrity, if not household name status
― scott c-word (some dude), Monday, 3 February 2014 04:18 (ten years ago) link
― socki (s1ocki), Monday, February 3, 2014 2:17 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i can't either. i have the same kind of awful shocked sorrow about this that i had when phil hartman died.
― estela, Monday, 3 February 2014 04:24 (ten years ago) link
He got a lot of acclaim for indie movies liked by a niche audience, like Happiness, or an outright popular disaster like Synecdoche. Capote grossed about $29 M in the US. I imagine the PTA movies have more of a cult following on home media than their grosses would indicate; I suspect Joe /Jane Average would name those or Hunger Games, or the MI movie if pressed.
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 February 2014 04:25 (ten years ago) link
Heroin can get fucked
― Wendy Carlos Williams (jjjusten), Monday, 3 February 2014 04:29 (ten years ago) link
I didn't love the guy all the time but his performances in Ripley + Synecdoche are all time imo
― flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 3 February 2014 04:32 (ten years ago) link
his moneyball broodin bit, and his character in charlie wilson's war are both great. his lester bangs was the only worthwhile part of almost famous.
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Monday, 3 February 2014 04:55 (ten years ago) link
Genuinely feel robbed of future roles. Fuck heroin...
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 3 February 2014 05:03 (ten years ago) link
hope they find his dealer. or that he fell off a cliff somewhere.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 3 February 2014 05:05 (ten years ago) link
it's been such a shitty several months for awesome actors dying too young. also an acquaintance of mine had a personal connection to both gandolfini and hoffman and is really doubly slammed by this one.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 3 February 2014 05:10 (ten years ago) link
Was looking on Netflix to see which of his movies are streaming. I don't think I ever heard about A Late Quartet.
― tbd (Eazy), Monday, 3 February 2014 05:24 (ten years ago) link
I suspect Joe /Jane Average would name those or /Hunger Games/, or the MI movie if pressed.
Right. Cover of the daily mail this am http://t.co/QZ2vfGhRmi
― caek, Monday, 3 February 2014 06:12 (ten years ago) link
WTF initial headline in the Australian Daily Telegraph (yes, Murdoch, obv.), toned down by now:http://mumbrella.com.au/paying-respect-dead-203832
― StanM, Monday, 3 February 2014 06:37 (ten years ago) link
wow fuck them
― balls, Monday, 3 February 2014 06:52 (ten years ago) link
The Drummer From Junkie Actor Dad
(I'm sorry)
― ...out of that weakness, out of that envy, out of that fear.. (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 3 February 2014 07:33 (ten years ago) link
Too soon? http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2014/02/02/charlie-sheen-found-alive-in-his-new-york-apartment-aged-48/
― StanM, Monday, 3 February 2014 08:07 (ten years ago) link
so fucked
― i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Monday, 3 February 2014 08:40 (ten years ago) link
His daughter Tallulah is exactly the same age as my daughter Tallulah (to the month anyway).
― Michael Jones, Monday, 3 February 2014 09:32 (ten years ago) link
A poster on another forum pointed out that Hoffman's sparing partner in this scene, Christopher Even Welch, recently died. One of Welch's other prominent film roles was the Pastor in this scene in Synecdoche, New York.
― ...out of that weakness, out of that envy, out of that fear.. (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 3 February 2014 10:28 (ten years ago) link
This is horrible. Some smart and moving tributes though.
― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Monday, 3 February 2014 10:31 (ten years ago) link
I never considered him famous in the sense that people would swarm and have their picture taken with him. I always figured he was famous in the sense that you'd see him at a local restaurant and recognize him, and maybe someone might come over for an autograph or something. I guess I'd call that New York famous vs. LA famous.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 February 2014 12:56 (ten years ago) link
i saw him on broadway doing "true west" with john c. reilly. it's a two-man show and the two would switch roles every night. i'll always regret not seeing the show twice so that i could see hoffman do both roles. john c. reilly was good but not even in the same league as hoffmann, who dug himself so deeply into this gravel-voiced, obtuse drifter character that i literally couldn't imagine the roles reversed, no matter how i tried.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 3 February 2014 12:58 (ten years ago) link
ha and now googling around for images from this show returns only shots of PSH as the preppy writer. i guess the PR stills were taken on one particular day and they didn't come back for the reversed version.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 3 February 2014 13:15 (ten years ago) link
oh man, you reminded me that i saw that show too. must've been almost 15 years ago now
― Nhex, Monday, 3 February 2014 13:47 (ten years ago) link
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, February 3, 2014 7:58 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
god i wish i could have seen that.
and man, the skill to do that—just to remember all the lines!—is absolutely unfathomable
― socki (s1ocki), Monday, 3 February 2014 14:23 (ten years ago) link
(memory lane)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq4qH76O_5I
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 February 2014 15:11 (ten years ago) link
Ha, just saw on wiki the Quaid Bros did their version too.
― pplains, Monday, 3 February 2014 15:28 (ten years ago) link
what a loss, i had no idea he was that young. 46! could've sworn the guy was at least in 50s. just wanted to share my love for his roles in "Doubt" and "The Savages", i don't think they've been mentioned in this thread yet but he was astonishing in both of those movies. i'll totally miss his acting. so sad.
― marcos, Monday, 3 February 2014 16:21 (ten years ago) link
Richard Brody.
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 February 2014 16:25 (ten years ago) link
50 bags of heroin in his apartment, CNN's saying.
― tbd (Eazy), Monday, 3 February 2014 17:09 (ten years ago) link
oh my goddoes anyone know what sort of life event could have precipitated a purchase of that magnitude?
― we slowly invented brains (La Lechera), Monday, 3 February 2014 17:10 (ten years ago) link