Philip Seymour Hoffman c/d?

Love Lebowski, but somehow his role in it never stands out for me. On the other hand: Synecdoche, New York, Boogie Nights, Happiness, The Talented Mr. Ripley, 25th Hour, Love Liza, Owning Mahoney--hell, he was even great in the otherwise worthless Mission: Impossible III. I have a feeling I might be able to add The Master to that list had I seen it yet.

Damn. Just...damn.

just wanna stand up for MI3 for a second here its pretty good

it's much better than the second one that's for sure but i thought in general ghost protocol blew it away

i remember he did loser creeps so well (thinking of happiness here esp but scent of a woman and boogie nights have aspects of that as well) that i thought he might get stuck in that mode

Me too. I wrote that blog piece very early, right after Happiness. Then he did a 180 and played just the sweetest, gentlest character imaginable in Magnolia; my feelings on the film have changed over the years, sometimes liking it more than at other times, but I've never wavered on how great he is. And whenever he needed to go back into creep mode, he did so effortlessly--found him scary in Punch Drunk Love. Thought his phone showdown with Sandler was the best thing in that film.

still need to see the master

I want to play something for my students tomorrow, think I'll go with this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k0-pSCwcx4

I have to be careful about language, but I'm sure they can handle "hell of a disease."

Watched The Hunger Games 2 today, was thinking what a pleasure he was to watch in even a relatively minor and thankless role. Heard the news shortly after finishing the film. RIP, his was a career you felt was not yet near its apex. Reckon he had another oscar in him.

ugh. Haven't been this bummed out since DFW died.

It really is just gutting. It's weird how a guy can be so iconic yet so ... like PHS was. Many new him, but was he a star? He was a great actor, but I think easy to overlook. All sorts of contradictions, many no doubt because he was such a good actor he put the role first. (sorry, been drinking) Have there been any/many public statements? PTA?

He was one of the few universally agreed-upon Great Actors, among both casual film fans and nerds/critics, plus he was quite young, and seemed much more down-to-earth / less pretentious than anyone he might be compared with. This struck a very unique nerve.

Like, when Daniel Day-Lewis passes, I can't imagine people taking it this personally.

yeah...it's weird to think of just how famous and respected he was without seeming to make too many concessions to the business. like, if the closest thing to 'selling out' that he did was kick ass in a Mission Impossible movie and be pretty funny in a middling Ben Stiller movie,

Streep's a good comparison as far as range and fully embodying a character.

I never knew he had a problem, and I guess he was candid about it from what I heard today on the radio. I haven't really ever been sad about an actor passing, but this hit me today while driving. I keep remembering him in Love Liza.

Streep's a good comparison as far as range and fully embodying a character.

― tbd (Eazy), Monday, 3 February 2014 04:07 (3 minutes ago) Permalink

buscemi, too. (boardwalk empire, aside)

So sad. Addiction is horrible and scary.

I was surprised to find CNN devoting so much airtime to it today. He's a major actor, but not really a celebrity, so I'm a bit surprised they'd care so much. I'm assuming its the drug angle that is responsible for the coverage--like, so people who haven't seen his movies and probably do nothing but watch CNN can sit there and cluck their tongues over Hollywood druggies.

i cant imagine anyone not liking, or loving him

I was surprised to find CNN devoting so much airtime to it today. He's a major actor, but not really a celebrity, so I'm a bit surprised they'd care so much. I'm assuming its the drug angle that is responsible for the coverage--like, so people who haven't seen his movies and probably do nothing but watch CNN can sit there and cluck their tongues over Hollywood druggies.

― Inside Lewellyn Sinclair (cryptosicko), Sunday, February 2, 2014 11:13 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he was in a lot of movies

i think the best actor oscar tipped him pretty well into genuine celebrity, if not household name status

i cant imagine anyone not liking, or loving him

― socki (s1ocki), Monday, February 3, 2014 2:17 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i can't either. i have the same kind of awful shocked sorrow about this that i had when phil hartman died.

He got a lot of acclaim for indie movies liked by a niche audience, like Happiness, or an outright popular disaster like Synecdoche. Capote grossed about $29 M in the US. I imagine the PTA movies have more of a cult following on home media than their grosses would indicate; I suspect Joe /Jane Average would name those or Hunger Games, or the MI movie if pressed.

Heroin can get fucked

I didn't love the guy all the time but his performances in Ripley + Synecdoche are all time imo

his moneyball broodin bit, and his character in charlie wilson's war are both great. his lester bangs was the only worthwhile part of almost famous.

Genuinely feel robbed of future roles. Fuck heroin...

hope they find his dealer. or that he fell off a cliff somewhere.

it's been such a shitty several months for awesome actors dying too young. also an acquaintance of mine had a personal connection to both gandolfini and hoffman and is really doubly slammed by this one.

Was looking on Netflix to see which of his movies are streaming. I don't think I ever heard about A Late Quartet.

I suspect Joe /Jane Average would name those or /Hunger Games/, or the MI movie if pressed.

Right. Cover of the daily mail this am http://t.co/QZ2vfGhRmi

WTF initial headline in the Australian Daily Telegraph (yes, Murdoch, obv.), toned down by now:
http://mumbrella.com.au/paying-respect-dead-203832

wow fuck them

The Drummer From Junkie Actor Dad

(I'm sorry)

Too soon? http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2014/02/02/charlie-sheen-found-alive-in-his-new-york-apartment-aged-48/

so fucked

His daughter Tallulah is exactly the same age as my daughter Tallulah (to the month anyway).

A poster on another forum pointed out that Hoffman's sparing partner in this scene, Christopher Even Welch, recently died. One of Welch's other prominent film roles was the Pastor in this scene in Synecdoche, New York.

This is horrible. Some smart and moving tributes though.

I never considered him famous in the sense that people would swarm and have their picture taken with him. I always figured he was famous in the sense that you'd see him at a local restaurant and recognize him, and maybe someone might come over for an autograph or something. I guess I'd call that New York famous vs. LA famous.

i saw him on broadway doing "true west" with john c. reilly. it's a two-man show and the two would switch roles every night. i'll always regret not seeing the show twice so that i could see hoffman do both roles. john c. reilly was good but not even in the same league as hoffmann, who dug himself so deeply into this gravel-voiced, obtuse drifter character that i literally couldn't imagine the roles reversed, no matter how i tried.

ha and now googling around for images from this show returns only shots of PSH as the preppy writer. i guess the PR stills were taken on one particular day and they didn't come back for the reversed version.

oh man, you reminded me that i saw that show too. must've been almost 15 years ago now

i saw him on broadway doing "true west" with john c. reilly. it's a two-man show and the two would switch roles every night. i'll always regret not seeing the show twice so that i could see hoffman do both roles. john c. reilly was good but not even in the same league as hoffmann, who dug himself so deeply into this gravel-voiced, obtuse drifter character that i literally couldn't imagine the roles reversed, no matter how i tried.

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, February 3, 2014 7:58 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

god i wish i could have seen that.

and man, the skill to do that—just to remember all the lines!—is absolutely unfathomable

(memory lane)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq4qH76O_5I

Ha, just saw on wiki the Quaid Bros did their version too.

what a loss, i had no idea he was that young. 46! could've sworn the guy was at least in 50s. just wanted to share my love for his roles in "Doubt" and "The Savages", i don't think they've been mentioned in this thread yet but he was astonishing in both of those movies. i'll totally miss his acting. so sad.

Richard Brody.

50 bags of heroin in his apartment, CNN's saying.

oh my god
does anyone know what sort of life event could have precipitated a purchase of that magnitude?

good grief