Philip Seymour Hoffman c/d?

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He performed it in Spring 2012, with Mike Nichols directing. Not to overspeculate, but was thinking this was around the same, from what he said, he started taking painkillers.

Also thinking how Cobain always attributed his heroin use to fighting a chronic stomach ulcer,and how if there's something that takes away pain (physical, emotional) it sure it hard to push that thing away.

tbd (Eazy), Monday, 3 February 2014 22:41 (ten years ago) link

I see. That's why I asked. It makes sense. I started reading Barry Meier's Pain Killer last night because I guess I wanted to wallow in misery.

we slowly invented brains (La Lechera), Monday, 3 February 2014 22:49 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcTf7CO-hdA

polyphonic, Monday, 3 February 2014 22:50 (ten years ago) link

that minty flavor.

Hungry4Ass, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 00:14 (ten years ago) link

I just found out about this a few hours ago while I was at work. I was so shocked and saddened I had to leave my desk and go for a walk to clear my head. He was easily my favorite actor. The word gets thrown around a lot but I believe he was a true genius in his field.

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 00:21 (ten years ago) link

that first "fuck you" in the kools outtake is just the most human amazing guys-working thing

just two guys smoking kools

PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 00:55 (ten years ago) link

clips like that break my heart

gbx, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 00:59 (ten years ago) link

ultimate wkiw

flopson, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 01:17 (ten years ago) link

My dad smoked Kools and that clip makes me wonder if he had convos like that.

we slowly invented brains (La Lechera), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 01:27 (ten years ago) link

u can tell they're going to crack up before he even says anything

flopson, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 01:29 (ten years ago) link

Last thing I saw him in was early episode of Law and Order, he stood out since most of the others couldn't act that well. RIP

― badg, Monday, February 3, 2014 4:39 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Watched this ep tonight, bonus appearance from Samuel L Jackson.

Also this ep is his first imdb entry. He doesn't do a whole lot.

dan m, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 01:32 (ten years ago) link

ultimate wkiw

this^^^

i lost my shoes on acid (jed_), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 01:58 (ten years ago) link

omg <3 that kools clip. three great readings!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hy1Q1WL57Qo

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 02:25 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkeLGisUHtc

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 02:27 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ornzkdo9t1w

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 02:28 (ten years ago) link

he looks off his nut i that tbh

i lost my shoes on acid (jed_), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 02:41 (ten years ago) link

Half-related, someone reposted this Russell Brand essay on addiction and empathy: http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2013/mar/09/russell-brand-life-without-drugs

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 02:44 (ten years ago) link

Whatever his failings in other areas of public discourse, that is a really really strong piece.

Simon H., Tuesday, 4 February 2014 02:58 (ten years ago) link

Agree!

we slowly invented brains (La Lechera), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 03:08 (ten years ago) link

please to keep posting the outtakes

shit, i have to see The Master now

Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 03:11 (ten years ago) link

Agree!

It really is

gbx, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 03:46 (ten years ago) link

State and Main! Forgettable movie, but I totally forgot he was in it and once again good.

tbd (Eazy), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 05:17 (ten years ago) link

i can't believe Philip Seymour Hoffman is dead

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 18:08 (ten years ago) link

so I haven't read all of this so maybe this has already been brought up, but I'm not sure why the all out NYPD search for the people who sold him heroin. Do they do this for everyone who ODs? No.

akm, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 18:20 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLtNd1h34F8

slam dunk, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 18:25 (ten years ago) link

so I haven't read all of this so maybe this has already been brought up, but I'm not sure why the all out NYPD search for the people who sold him heroin. Do they do this for everyone who ODs? No.

― akm, Tuesday, February 4, 2014 1:20 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

they do it for cool and important people

Hungry4Ass, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 18:27 (ten years ago) link

akm i'm assuming it has to do w/ the large amount though it might have to do w/ this fentanyl spiked heroin that supposedly hit the east coast?

balls, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 18:28 (ten years ago) link

yea i was wondering that, if the fentanyl was related to hoffman's death

marcos, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 18:31 (ten years ago) link

That's the most likely scenario here. They've probably determined the stockpile all came from the same source and that it's related to the fentanyl spiked incidents.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 18:33 (ten years ago) link

horrible

we slowly invented brains (La Lechera), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 20:02 (ten years ago) link

Has heroin really dropped down to $6 a bag? Wow.

Nhex, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 20:02 (ten years ago) link

nyt piece seems to suggest it's meant to flood the market and create addicts

PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 21:17 (ten years ago) link

The possibility that there are '80s action movie-style heroin distribution factories in the city is legitimately horrifying

Nhex, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 21:18 (ten years ago) link

Get Seagal and Van Damme on the case, asap.

an enormous bolus of flatulence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 21:22 (ten years ago) link

a job for Che de Blasio

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 21:22 (ten years ago) link

i'm sorry - that clip of Hoffman bouncing off the top of that car is hilarious!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 22:20 (ten years ago) link

Surprised it did not lead to an addiction to painkillers, tbh.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 22:25 (ten years ago) link

yeah, that Mattress King ad is all-time

Nhex, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 22:49 (ten years ago) link

for new yorkers:
https://www.facebook.com/events/291040771044583/

PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 22:54 (ten years ago) link

;_;

grape is the flavor of my true love's hair (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 5 February 2014 00:29 (ten years ago) link

I think The Master deserves more praise. Some speculated that the film was too controversial for scientologists and that it would frustrate too many viewers who wanted a more conventional beginning, middle and end, to really achieve any success. But some people are betting on it being a future mighty classic.
The film was really nothing like I had imagined. I thought Phoenix was going to be the audience insertion/identification figure, but he was nothing like that.

I think Hoffman's performance was really great for the way his character tried to appear endlessly wise, jolly and generous, but his rage gets the better of him and I think those scenes of him awkwardly losing it are some of the best in the film.

I heard different takes on how much this was a critique of scientology/Hubbard. I think there is quite a lot of it, but it doesnt really seem like a main goal. Hubbard was quite open with friends and family about his cynical moneymaking scheme but Hoffman's character appears to have deluded himself. Hoffman's child in the film has a similar appalled stance as Hubbard's own children.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 16:10 (ten years ago) link

well it's harder to make an ambitious film about a con man than about a "visionary" who at least partly believes his own shit. I guess Elmer Gantry is the first exception that comes to mind, but it has Burt Lancaster lusting, tumbling and shouting all over the place.

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 February 2014 16:16 (ten years ago) link

well it's harder to make an ambitious film about a con man than about a "visionary" who at least partly believes his own shit

Why not both?

http://www.cinema.indiana.edu/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/jpg34

Eric H., Wednesday, 5 February 2014 16:28 (ten years ago) link

The film was really nothing like I had imagined. I thought Phoenix was going to be the audience insertion/identification figure, but he was nothing like that.

maybe not for yoooou

mh, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 16:33 (ten years ago) link

yup, at the time it befuddled both packed theaters i saw it with, none of my PTA-loving friends were into it, i was disappointed, but it seemed like a movie that would make more sense in time…now that this has happened, that process will no doubt be expedited…

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 5 February 2014 16:36 (ten years ago) link

The Master felt more like the story of an alcoholic and his perfect antagonist than a shot at Scientology.

Good interview with his acting coach (with shitty URL name).

Also, four arrests.

tbd (Eazy), Wednesday, 5 February 2014 17:02 (ten years ago) link

none of my PTA-loving friends were into it

interesting. i lean towards anti-PTA and i thought it was pretty awesome.

goole, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 17:08 (ten years ago) link

The Master was great but it is pretty slow so definitely watch it only on a good stereo system/tv setup, like if you saw it on a laptop you might enjoy it but you might fall asleep.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 5 February 2014 17:29 (ten years ago) link


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