Philip Seymour Hoffman c/d?

Agree!

It really is

State and Main! Forgettable movie, but I totally forgot he was in it and once again good.

i can't believe Philip Seymour Hoffman is dead

so I haven't read all of this so maybe this has already been brought up, but I'm not sure why the all out NYPD search for the people who sold him heroin. Do they do this for everyone who ODs? No.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLtNd1h34F8

so I haven't read all of this so maybe this has already been brought up, but I'm not sure why the all out NYPD search for the people who sold him heroin. Do they do this for everyone who ODs? No.

― akm, Tuesday, February 4, 2014 1:20 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

they do it for cool and important people

akm i'm assuming it has to do w/ the large amount though it might have to do w/ this fentanyl spiked heroin that supposedly hit the east coast?

yea i was wondering that, if the fentanyl was related to hoffman's death

That's the most likely scenario here. They've probably determined the stockpile all came from the same source and that it's related to the fentanyl spiked incidents.

horrible

Has heroin really dropped down to $6 a bag? Wow.

nyt piece seems to suggest it's meant to flood the market and create addicts

The possibility that there are '80s action movie-style heroin distribution factories in the city is legitimately horrifying

Get Seagal and Van Damme on the case, asap.

a job for Che de Blasio

i'm sorry - that clip of Hoffman bouncing off the top of that car is hilarious!

Surprised it did not lead to an addiction to painkillers, tbh.

yeah, that Mattress King ad is all-time

for new yorkers:
https://www.facebook.com/events/291040771044583/

;_;

I think The Master deserves more praise. Some speculated that the film was too controversial for scientologists and that it would frustrate too many viewers who wanted a more conventional beginning, middle and end, to really achieve any success. But some people are betting on it being a future mighty classic.
The film was really nothing like I had imagined. I thought Phoenix was going to be the audience insertion/identification figure, but he was nothing like that.

I think Hoffman's performance was really great for the way his character tried to appear endlessly wise, jolly and generous, but his rage gets the better of him and I think those scenes of him awkwardly losing it are some of the best in the film.

I heard different takes on how much this was a critique of scientology/Hubbard. I think there is quite a lot of it, but it doesnt really seem like a main goal. Hubbard was quite open with friends and family about his cynical moneymaking scheme but Hoffman's character appears to have deluded himself. Hoffman's child in the film has a similar appalled stance as Hubbard's own children.

well it's harder to make an ambitious film about a con man than about a "visionary" who at least partly believes his own shit. I guess Elmer Gantry is the first exception that comes to mind, but it has Burt Lancaster lusting, tumbling and shouting all over the place.

well it's harder to make an ambitious film about a con man than about a "visionary" who at least partly believes his own shit

Why not both?

http://www.cinema.indiana.edu/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/jpg34

The film was really nothing like I had imagined. I thought Phoenix was going to be the audience insertion/identification figure, but he was nothing like that.

maybe not for yoooou

yup, at the time it befuddled both packed theaters i saw it with, none of my PTA-loving friends were into it, i was disappointed, but it seemed like a movie that would make more sense in time…now that this has happened, that process will no doubt be expedited…

The Master felt more like the story of an alcoholic and his perfect antagonist than a shot at Scientology.

Good interview with his acting coach (with shitty URL name).

Also, four arrests.

none of my PTA-loving friends were into it

interesting. i lean towards anti-PTA and i thought it was pretty awesome.

The Master was great but it is pretty slow so definitely watch it only on a good stereo system/tv setup, like if you saw it on a laptop you might enjoy it but you might fall asleep.

re: four arrests
good info, but no thanks for telling us "what we're learning"

friend on FB:

Well, it looks like we got a couple of heroin dealers off the street, so Philip Seymour Hoffman's death wasn't completely in vain. Cold comfort to the families of the many who die of overdoses without anyone batting an eye, but that's what they get for not being celebrities.

What an asshole.

do you know Richard Pryor's "My GOD, it's an EPIDEMIC!" bit? Asshole too i guess.

xp That doesn't feel asshole-ish to me tbh? Maybe I'm not getting it?

List of threads to avoid if X, Y and Z ppl are on em is gettin' real fucking long.

so why don't you avoid them?

False Equivalency Twitter is having a field day with observations like "hey why didn't they find Whitney Houston's dealer? make you think huh"

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stevie 100% otm obv

#falseequivalencytwitter

Well, it looks like we got a couple of heroin dealers off the street, so Philip Seymour Hoffman's death wasn't completely in vain. Cold comfort to the families of the many who die of overdoses without anyone batting an eye, but that's what they get for not being celebrities.

look forward to seeing this on counterpunch in a day or two

he isn't nearly as left as i am, but he would say sayonara to this board in about 5 minutes.

you say "bye" every five minutes too

you must have writers now that you're in LA.

anyway stevie, whether youre a cop or just a jerk, you let us know the next time an OD in Brownsville results in arrests within 72 hours.

from the cnn story:

Preliminary tests Tuesday showed the heroin recovered from the apartment does not contain fentanyl, a law enforcement official told CNN. More testing will be done.

Fentanyl is a powerful narcotic used to treat cancer patients' pain.

Last week, Maryland officials said heroin tainted with fentanyl had claimed at least 37 lives since September. And last month, at least 22 people in western Pennsylvania died after using heroin mixed with fentanyl.

i guess i figured using PSH's death to make some point seemed assholish to me, but i think i overreacted, so apologies to your friend on facebook. also, i don't think i know the pryor bit, and am a big fan, so if you could direct me to it that would be ace.

ugh, I know of two people who od'ed on fentanyl, although I'm not sure if it was sold to them as something else

interesting. i lean towards anti-PTA and i thought it was pretty awesome.

― goole,

His best since Hard Eight.

I don't remember which album... possibly Is It Something I Said?

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:Richard_Pryor#On_Drugs

The end of this is so goddamn crushing.

http://www.indyweek.com/indyweek/for-phil-an-old-friend/Content?oid=3820363