Philip Seymour Hoffman c/d?

Get Seagal and Van Damme on the case, asap.

a job for Che de Blasio

i'm sorry - that clip of Hoffman bouncing off the top of that car is hilarious!

Surprised it did not lead to an addiction to painkillers, tbh.

yeah, that Mattress King ad is all-time

for new yorkers:
https://www.facebook.com/events/291040771044583/

;_;

I think The Master deserves more praise. Some speculated that the film was too controversial for scientologists and that it would frustrate too many viewers who wanted a more conventional beginning, middle and end, to really achieve any success. But some people are betting on it being a future mighty classic.
The film was really nothing like I had imagined. I thought Phoenix was going to be the audience insertion/identification figure, but he was nothing like that.

I think Hoffman's performance was really great for the way his character tried to appear endlessly wise, jolly and generous, but his rage gets the better of him and I think those scenes of him awkwardly losing it are some of the best in the film.

I heard different takes on how much this was a critique of scientology/Hubbard. I think there is quite a lot of it, but it doesnt really seem like a main goal. Hubbard was quite open with friends and family about his cynical moneymaking scheme but Hoffman's character appears to have deluded himself. Hoffman's child in the film has a similar appalled stance as Hubbard's own children.

well it's harder to make an ambitious film about a con man than about a "visionary" who at least partly believes his own shit. I guess Elmer Gantry is the first exception that comes to mind, but it has Burt Lancaster lusting, tumbling and shouting all over the place.

well it's harder to make an ambitious film about a con man than about a "visionary" who at least partly believes his own shit

Why not both?

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The film was really nothing like I had imagined. I thought Phoenix was going to be the audience insertion/identification figure, but he was nothing like that.

maybe not for yoooou

yup, at the time it befuddled both packed theaters i saw it with, none of my PTA-loving friends were into it, i was disappointed, but it seemed like a movie that would make more sense in time…now that this has happened, that process will no doubt be expedited…

The Master felt more like the story of an alcoholic and his perfect antagonist than a shot at Scientology.

Good interview with his acting coach (with shitty URL name).

Also, four arrests.

none of my PTA-loving friends were into it

interesting. i lean towards anti-PTA and i thought it was pretty awesome.

The Master was great but it is pretty slow so definitely watch it only on a good stereo system/tv setup, like if you saw it on a laptop you might enjoy it but you might fall asleep.

re: four arrests
good info, but no thanks for telling us "what we're learning"

friend on FB:

Well, it looks like we got a couple of heroin dealers off the street, so Philip Seymour Hoffman's death wasn't completely in vain. Cold comfort to the families of the many who die of overdoses without anyone batting an eye, but that's what they get for not being celebrities.

What an asshole.

do you know Richard Pryor's "My GOD, it's an EPIDEMIC!" bit? Asshole too i guess.

xp That doesn't feel asshole-ish to me tbh? Maybe I'm not getting it?

List of threads to avoid if X, Y and Z ppl are on em is gettin' real fucking long.

so why don't you avoid them?

False Equivalency Twitter is having a field day with observations like "hey why didn't they find Whitney Houston's dealer? make you think huh"

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stevie 100% otm obv

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Well, it looks like we got a couple of heroin dealers off the street, so Philip Seymour Hoffman's death wasn't completely in vain. Cold comfort to the families of the many who die of overdoses without anyone batting an eye, but that's what they get for not being celebrities.

look forward to seeing this on counterpunch in a day or two

he isn't nearly as left as i am, but he would say sayonara to this board in about 5 minutes.

you say "bye" every five minutes too

you must have writers now that you're in LA.

anyway stevie, whether youre a cop or just a jerk, you let us know the next time an OD in Brownsville results in arrests within 72 hours.

from the cnn story:

Preliminary tests Tuesday showed the heroin recovered from the apartment does not contain fentanyl, a law enforcement official told CNN. More testing will be done.

Fentanyl is a powerful narcotic used to treat cancer patients' pain.

Last week, Maryland officials said heroin tainted with fentanyl had claimed at least 37 lives since September. And last month, at least 22 people in western Pennsylvania died after using heroin mixed with fentanyl.

i guess i figured using PSH's death to make some point seemed assholish to me, but i think i overreacted, so apologies to your friend on facebook. also, i don't think i know the pryor bit, and am a big fan, so if you could direct me to it that would be ace.

ugh, I know of two people who od'ed on fentanyl, although I'm not sure if it was sold to them as something else

interesting. i lean towards anti-PTA and i thought it was pretty awesome.

― goole,

His best since Hard Eight.

I don't remember which album... possibly Is It Something I Said?

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:Richard_Pryor#On_Drugs

The end of this is so goddamn crushing.

http://www.indyweek.com/indyweek/for-phil-an-old-friend/Content?oid=3820363

Morbs, it's on Here And Now (one of the few bright spots on that otherwise meh record).

Thanks guys

Aaron Sorkin:

Phil Hoffman, this kind, decent, magnificent, thunderous actor, who was never outwardly “right” for any role but who completely dominated the real estate upon which every one of his characters walked, did not die from an overdose of heroin—he died from heroin. We should stop implying that if he’d just taken the proper amount then everything would have been fine.

sometimes we learn more about the writer than the subject in obituaries

Honestly, I can't imagine a worse industry to be in than his when you're trying to stay sober. Parties, meetings, money, downtime, stress, etc. It's a miracle some actors have ever managed to stay sober, and many of them it seems just made it so many years down the line that they were able to get over some sort of hump. Obviously getting clean and staying clean must be tough no matter the circumstances, but Hollywood and that lifestyle is so unusual, so unreal, that it must impose its own unique set of pressures. I'm just a guy, and I can't imagine how hard life would be without even the option of "hey, wanna grab a beer?"

well, club owner, bartender, or pharmacist might be worse
acting's pretty far up there, though

wow, Aaron Sorkin's dialogue sucks when he does it, too

PSH gets condolences from Miles Davis's family:
http://www.milesdavis.com/us/news/condolences-philip-seymour-hoffman

apparently based solely on an incident PSH described of meeting Miles when he was in his 20s. I thought it was cool and sort of touching that whoever manages the Miles site caught this and took the trouble to put a condolence on the page.

it never even occurred to me the PSH was sober. He didn't make a big deal about it, maybe because he wasn't famous when he went through his worst period, like Robert Downey Jr. In that sense, it was maybe safer and easier for him to slip back into it. Can you imagine what would happen if RDJ slipped up at this point? a giant ass huge film franchise rides on him not fucking up.

They'd sub in a younger guy in a heartbeat. They will eventually anywya.

Definitely had that thought when the Avengers cast was unveiled at comic-con before the release of Thor, though at this point Disney's already made their billions off him.

The "oh my god, do they realize who's the cornerstone of this planned chain of blockbusters" thought, I mean.

watched owning mahowny for the first time last night and Hoffman is of course brilliant. great little film, surprised it had never been brought to my attention before.