Guardians of the Galaxy: Marvel mess in the making?

Yeah, it is Loeb, which makes me irrationally angry.

Bendis is great at dialogue and slow-burn plots and hopeless at complicated multi-character action-packed narratives as far as I can tell. I was obsessed with his Daredevil/Alias period but gave up following him after one of those messy cross-title Avengers stories.

Loeb is a decent-enough premise guy but don't let him try to outline

teenagers bickering kinda IS the core of the X-Men, they can't be punching each other alla the time

xps Quesada definitely involved, when he "stepped down" from EiC he moved into the movie/TV stuff fulltime

I've been trying to figure out if coming up with easy-to-follow plot ideas in broad strokes is his main strength. All his Batman stuff was very understandable but I just thought it was boring as hell. When he tries to write characters it gets... less good.

Loeb, that is

OTM. Get Loeb to do the plots and Bendis to do the character and dialogue and you're golden.

he used to be good, really!

Sorry, the Ultimate universe stuff is now the lens through which all Loeb work will be viewed. It's just that way.

This looks fun and campy in a good way (as opposed to dreary and campy like John Carter or similar).

Ha, my wife just watched the trailer and came to me with so many confused questions.

Like "Batista!?"

How are people not stoked? Granted I know nothing but this is solid trailer action.

The action stuff looks good. the words coming out of the actors suggest nobody involved in the script knows how to write funny jokes.

really hope they go over Star Lord's origin because he got such a raw deal and the character has a lot of motivation to be a jerk

it looks like two different films jammed together.

SOP for comics adaptations, right? Origin story + 1st adventure in one film.

Eh, I'm not so sure that will be the case with this one, since it has to fit into the broader story they're telling with the other films. With Iron Man 3 films in, Thor 2 in, Captain America on 2, Avengers a juggernaut so huge the second one is on the radar, this movie is a balancing act. Since I'd argue the characters are much less familiar than the aforementioned, it has to be origin, adventure, as well as pushing the bigger story forward. Because I can't imagine people will be satisfied with this if the only big picture glimmers it gives comes five minutes into the credits.

Or, you know, maybe they will! Resolution of the Infinity Gauntlet story at this rate will be post-Avengers 2, I believe.

yeah, i think this will be sowing seeds for Avengers 3. There's a Guardians sequel due before that even

also an animated show. Marvel seem to be pretty convinced this is going to work

i meant it looks more like a buddy movie comedy and a grand sci-fi standard blast em up

I was pretty nerdy in school, and I collected X-Men comics and had friends that had all kinds of comics, we even read Wizard all the time, and I had never heard of GOTG before this movie was announced. Maybe I wasn't paying attention.

Marvels thing is pretty much just comedies with action, this looks like more of the same with funnier characters. I think it pretty much is going to be a action/buddy comedy film. If they swing and miss it will be bad, but if they do a comedy and it sells ok it really does open up that studio to doing some different things.

The Drax story at the beginning of Annhilation about the prison ship crash in Alaska I think could be a pretty good b-movie idea on it's own.

Loeb was always terrible and Bendis cannot write dialogue, guys

I was pretty nerdy in school, and I collected X-Men comics and had friends that had all kinds of comics, we even read Wizard all the time, and I had never heard of GOTG before this movie was announced. Maybe I wasn't paying attention.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, February 19, 2014 11:05 PM (50 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this was rebooted after the infinity guantlet/war storylines in the early 90s when I was collecting comics. I forgot about it too.

I read comic books plenty when I was little, & I never heard of this property either.

I wonder if comics readers today call them properties?

if this beats ender's game numbers i think it will have been a victory for humanity, just like when jackass: bad grampa beat ender's game numbers it was also a victory for humanity.

1990 is what Im thinking of..

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_large/0/4/29547-4398-32838-1-guardians-of-the-gal.jpg

yep, that's when it showed up on my radar. and don't forget
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/blog_post_349_width/2014/02/rocket_raccoon_1_cover_a_p.jpg
or bill mantlo either: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/rocket-raccoon-creators-plight-draws-681744 )

in any case, it's immensely weird that they would pull guardians of the galaxy out of the toybox before deadpool. i guess the banks liked the idea of a new star wars

Deadpool appeared in the first Wolverine movie. Rights issues and so on

I knew about the original Vance Astro team, bought the issue of Astonishing Tales from the mid-70s they were in, but had completely forgotten that it was a reprint and that they'd originally been introduced in 1969.

ugh and deadpool was played by ryan reynolds and ended up shooting lasers out of his eyes iirc. real cool shit there, sony.

I read the 90 reboot of the series, and never knew about this one until after the movie was announced. Then, it was a matter of hunting down the Annihilation books and getting a Marvel online subscription to read the back issues(after already acquiring them from sources), since the 08 series is impossible to find.

I've spoken to comic shop managers who've gone on at length about marvel's(and DC's) apparent policy to never sell trades, or to keep them in such short supply as to be virtually nonexistent.

After finally getting a chance to see the trailer, I'm all for it. Chris Pratt's Star Lord not giving a fuuuuuuuck about the Nova Corps and expressing that to their faces seems a perfect touch. I hope James Gunn had multiple consultations with DnA about writing the characters.

I still want to know what accent they're going to use for Rocket, tho.

Them planning for Gaurdians immediately after Avengers makes perfect sense if you want to bring in and ramp up to the Kirby/Starlin Marvel cosmic shit so you can do infinity Gauntlet or whatever in your 3rd Avengers movie.

Does anybody know why Abnett & Lanning busted up as a writing team? I can't imagine anything they do solo being nearly as fun.

“One thing we debated was…he’s seen as a cockney accent sometimes, so we talked about whether we’d do that or do this sort of other guy from the city a little bit.”

Noo Yawk

Good question: if not this, what other Marvel title should have gotten the green? Daredevil, Fantastic Four, both tangled up in rights (Spider-Man and X-Men, too). And Daredevil. So I'd say ... Doctor Strange? That might have been as left field as this. Maybe something else supernatural-y, like Scarlet Witch? Vision? I want to say this Marvel universe has no rights to *any* mutants ...

I've spoken to comic shop managers who've gone on at length about marvel's(and DC's) apparent policy to never sell trades, or to keep them in such short supply as to be virtually nonexistent.

'00s Marvel and DC had completely contrary collection policies: for Levitz, the long tail was a fundamental core of business, and their catalogue remained as deep and well-supported as possible; Perlmutter had a policy of literally not keeping any books in print, because they would then have to pay to warehouse them.

A Scarlet Witch who will never say "Magneto" or "mutant" is planned to be in Avengers 2, played by Elisabeth Olsen

A Scarlet Witch who will never say "Magneto" or "mutant" is planned to be in Avengers 2, played by Elisabeth Olsen

I want to see the meeting where Sony's & Marvel's lawyers read the script as a DVD extra

daredevil isn't tangled up in rights, rights either reverted back to marvel or marvel bought them back i forget (same w/ hulk). it's the big marquee piece of those shows marvel is doing w/ netflix along w/ jessica jones, luke cage, and iron fist and then some big team up thing. fantastic four reboot is in the works (that's one i really wish marvel had, spidey and x-men were somewhat off on their own to an extent anyway). this gives you some idea of what is where:

http://geekculture.co/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/marvel-movie-rights-infographic.png

Cover art on GotG 1 is truly dreadful!

poor Universal :(

At least Lionsgate can make

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070411195859/marveldatabase/images/2/22/Giant-Size_Man-Thing_Vol_1_3.jpg

The name of our band that never got off the ground, circa 1992

I will say that signing up for the Marvel all-you-can-eat deal at their website is worth it. You have to be online to read, but borrow somebody's ipad or I've used a laptop in a hotel and it both works. Read all the Defenders series or the reprinted Simonson Thor books and save a shitloada money from buying trades.

The three frustrations of the service are 1) having to be online(you can check out 6-12 books offline, which probably won't last a flight)

2) the offerings are only what they've printed in the last 5-10 years, or reprinted in trades. Frinstance, every Steranko book is in there.

3) you're at least 6mos or more behind release

Related, and interesting: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/rocket-raccoon-creators-plight-draws-681744

LOL Lionsgate

A friend bought me that Marvel book by Sean Howe, and lack of royalties seems to be a recurring beef. On the other hand, it's incredible to realize how much of Marvel was really Stan Lee's baby. He kept it alive again and again, and dictated or directed nearly all the scripts of all the titles, at least for a long while. Of course, the artists were incredible, too, fleshing out his scripts, but it really seems like one of those DJ Shadow situations: it's impossible to give everyone what they deserve, because you can only split the check 50/50 once.