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nope sorry misread you, that is what you said. I thought the "why they're like that" was referring to being defensive.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 6 March 2014 14:13 (ten years ago) link

But if their framework for understanding themselves and the world is structured in religious terms, asking them to let go of the idea of God is a really tall order. Like this Jewish reading group in the cafe next to me right now: a bunch of old men discussing ethical issues, referencing different interpretations of different stories from the Torah. From where I am sitting, it seems like they're dwelling in a pretty interpretively rich context, with room for flexibility because they're arguing about stuff. It's not my framework, but i dont really think these dudes would be better off if they abandoned it. I dont even think they'd understand reality better by letting go of their God-term. Being "religious" doesn't mean your thinking is dogmatic and one dimensional; being an atheist doesn't mean your thinking is flexible and inquisitive.

Treeship, Thursday, 6 March 2014 14:23 (ten years ago) link

Xp i did mean why they are defensive

Treeship, Thursday, 6 March 2014 14:24 (ten years ago) link

I'm not asking them to let go of the idea of God, so don't ask me to let go of the idea of finding it ridiculous

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 6 March 2014 14:25 (ten years ago) link

ok that makes no sense though. "my eye color is not important to me" "omg dude your eye color is dumb!" "FUCK YOU, ASSHOLE!!"

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 6 March 2014 14:26 (ten years ago) link

I didn't ever say it wasn't important to them! I'm saying that faith can still be important to someone even if it isn't air- tight and certain, because many aspects of people's lived identity is tied up in their faith.

Treeship, Thursday, 6 March 2014 14:28 (ten years ago) link

Like, it's not just or even primarily about metaphysical certainty for some people. It's a history, a community, and an ethical framework.

Treeship, Thursday, 6 March 2014 14:29 (ten years ago) link

you said intellectual consistency wasn't important to them, but yet it's one answer to explain why they get defensive when their religious beliefs are ridiculed

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 6 March 2014 14:30 (ten years ago) link

yes duh I fucking get it. that has nothing to do with me finding a belief in god ridiculous.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 6 March 2014 14:31 (ten years ago) link

What's the benefit of ridiculing anyone ever?

Treeship, Thursday, 6 March 2014 14:31 (ten years ago) link

"eh I can take or leave the whole god part, I dig the history, the community, the ethical framework"
ok cool have fun at bingo

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 6 March 2014 14:33 (ten years ago) link

what's the benefit of asking me what's the benefit of ridiculing anyone?

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 6 March 2014 14:34 (ten years ago) link

the more religious belief is ridiculed, hopefully the less influence it has in the world. I think that's a good goal, thought you may disagree.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 6 March 2014 14:36 (ten years ago) link

though, not thought

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 6 March 2014 14:37 (ten years ago) link

if this tactic doesn't work, I have to resort to stonings and burnings, I'm just sayin

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 6 March 2014 14:40 (ten years ago) link

the more religious belief is ridiculed, hopefully the less influence it has in the world. I think that's a good goal, thought you may disagree.

Good idea, if you had been around in the 15th century you would've made a good witch hunter.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 6 March 2014 15:24 (ten years ago) link

Please elaborate more on your philosophy of intolerance and ridicule, it really sounds like a winner.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 6 March 2014 15:26 (ten years ago) link

those poor witches, riduculed at the steak!
another great analogy, you intellectual giant

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 6 March 2014 15:40 (ten years ago) link

i'm very tolerant. why did you feel the need to strengthen the case against me by throwing that in there?

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 6 March 2014 15:40 (ten years ago) link

sadly, my philosophy cannot compete with your ill thought out comparisons and nearly total lack of understanding of what science even is

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 6 March 2014 15:42 (ten years ago) link

Please teach us, oh master.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 6 March 2014 15:44 (ten years ago) link

you're reduced to that tactic eh? why even post then

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 6 March 2014 15:44 (ten years ago) link

One day I will pee farther than you.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 6 March 2014 15:45 (ten years ago) link

hey lookit this guy thinks he knows everything.
no I just think you're an idiot.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 6 March 2014 15:45 (ten years ago) link

Stfu everyone i'm trying to sleep

james franco, Thursday, 6 March 2014 15:52 (ten years ago) link

Are you really sleeping, or do you just black out and fly around Manhattan terrorizing people?

how's life, Thursday, 6 March 2014 15:56 (ten years ago) link

and Jesus said "Go forth and get thy fuckin' shinebox"

Neanderthal, Thursday, 6 March 2014 16:58 (ten years ago) link

Unfortunately, reading Granny D's few dozen one-a-minute one-liners on this thread reminded me strongly of long ago ilxor Aaron Hertz during one of his manic episodes before he was permabanned. Get well, Granny D.

Aimless, Thursday, 6 March 2014 19:19 (ten years ago) link

Ruffled Fedoras

Evan, Thursday, 6 March 2014 19:32 (ten years ago) link

gd about to find out that there is a mod imo

CSI BONO (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 March 2014 19:53 (ten years ago) link

haha yeah I'm the one with the mental condition here. You're a humorless twat, Aimless, fuck off holmes.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 6 March 2014 21:31 (ten years ago) link

ILX is so fucking predictable and y'all so lame, years of amusement tho thanks for that

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 6 March 2014 21:31 (ten years ago) link

oh no a mod whatever shall I do who fucking cares

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 6 March 2014 21:32 (ten years ago) link

oh shit was that 2 many 1 line posts too quickly OMG THE MANIA IT'S CONSUMING ME

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 6 March 2014 21:36 (ten years ago) link

praying for u dog

Ilx posters are good people, Granny. Honest, pious people. I won't have you speak about them like that.

james franco, Thursday, 6 March 2014 21:44 (ten years ago) link

oh ok sorry, whew manic phase over now

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 6 March 2014 21:46 (ten years ago) link

well, thank god! (joeks bro)

Aimless, Thursday, 6 March 2014 22:11 (ten years ago) link

jk yall stll twathammers

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 6 March 2014 23:30 (ten years ago) link

You're a maniac.

james franco, Thursday, 6 March 2014 23:47 (ten years ago) link

on the floor

Neanderthal, Thursday, 6 March 2014 23:48 (ten years ago) link

^ "knows what it is"

james franco, Thursday, 6 March 2014 23:49 (ten years ago) link

1 more short quick post and you'll be in the psychward with me son

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 6 March 2014 23:51 (ten years ago) link

u know what would probably bring you some peace?

Mordy , Thursday, 6 March 2014 23:52 (ten years ago) link

i got peace and piece. for how much y'all back yourselves on the back for being such bright lil primates, yet to realize someone's posts on their timewaster site show dickall about themselves. armchair psychologist away tho, wouldn't want you to miss an opportunity to overanalyze something for the 2000th time in your day.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 6 March 2014 23:56 (ten years ago) link

get contenderizer in here with his achingly boring long overwrought posts...reminds me of that other super depressed poster, get well bro but 1st give me some laughs.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 6 March 2014 23:57 (ten years ago) link

He is very close, tho He seems to you impossibly far, and He loves you

Mordy , Thursday, 6 March 2014 23:58 (ten years ago) link

what a homo

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 6 March 2014 23:59 (ten years ago) link

^hey homophobia guys, send out the ilx batsignal

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 7 March 2014 00:00 (ten years ago) link


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