I much prefer NDT to the simpering contemptible shit Cox, he is very likeable and doesn't make me want to kick the tv.
― xelab, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 20:51 (ten years ago) link
gr80 otm, i think the alvarez paper is like 81 and the putative crater was known to an oil company in the late 70s, but the story didn't come together in public/become accepted until well into the 80s
― caek, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 21:00 (ten years ago) link
i don't like any of these dudes except jacob bronowski
caek i love when you get all astronomist
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Wednesday, 12 March 2014 21:03 (ten years ago) link
in all seriousness, any one who liked the og cosmos and would like something similar to it, but about technology, and british, watch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ascent_of_Man
ha ty xp!
― caek, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 21:04 (ten years ago) link
Are there any pre-Cosmos Carl Sagan-hosted space specials out there?
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 12 March 2014 21:08 (ten years ago) link
huh
The 13-part series was shot on 16mm film. Executive Producer was Adrian Malone, film directors were Dick Gilling, Mick Jackson, David Kennard and David Paterson. Quotations were read by actors Roy Dotrice and Joss Ackland. Series music was by Dudley Simpson with Brian Hodgson and the BBC Radiophonic Workshop. Additional music includes, amongst others, music by Pink Floyd. Apart from Bronowski, the only other named person appearing is the sculptor Henry Moore.Malone and Kennard later emigrated to Hollywood, where they produced Carl Sagan's Cosmos. Jackson followed them, and now directs feature films.
― caek, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 21:08 (ten years ago) link
pink floyd in sagan's cosmos too
― chinavision!, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 21:14 (ten years ago) link
final scene of the ascent of man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltjI3BXKBgY
― caek, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 21:15 (ten years ago) link
"One Of These Days" was used in Cosmos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtj9kwQCltQ
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 13 March 2014 05:27 (ten years ago) link
I need to watch The Ascent Of Man. hfs at ending.
James Burke's Day The Universe Changed fits in here too:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Day_the_Universe_Changed
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 13 March 2014 05:34 (ten years ago) link
I'm enough of an old-timer to have a Mariner 9 picture of Mars autographed to me by Sagan himself so I'm way biased on this and will sound like a fucking middle-aged hippie.
I want to like the new series, but I wish they had gone in a different direction with the soundtrack. What carries a love of my love for the original series was just how iconic and future-ahistorical the soundtrack was and the new corny Disney-one makes Tyson more nerdy than cool-nerdy.
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 13 March 2014 06:08 (ten years ago) link
I think it's a triumph that MacFarlane and Tyson were able to just get this on broadcast television for 13 weeks. Sure, the score may be a little hokey, but I'm willing to live with some production concessions made for the suits just to be able to witness this.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 13 March 2014 06:26 (ten years ago) link
o.g. score is ace, though. that's otm.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 13 March 2014 06:27 (ten years ago) link
I guess I just wanted the music to be something more than just filler out of a KOMPACT5 library. One thing I love in o.g. is that when things go all powers-of-ten on you, Vangelis' "Alpha" is going to kick in.
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 13 March 2014 07:19 (ten years ago) link
I watched some PLanets show from bbc with the littlun last night and it was grand to see her wide eyed - space is neat
― Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Thursday, 13 March 2014 15:49 (ten years ago) link
Elvis otm. You cannot top that Vangelis track.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 13 March 2014 16:27 (ten years ago) link
have posted this link many times to several threads but it belongs here too: http://cosmic_voyager.tripod.com/cosmosindex.htm
― Milton Parker, Thursday, 13 March 2014 16:58 (ten years ago) link
I keep thinking about the lot of the string theorists. Trapped in futile bullshit for decades. I would never do that.
― xelab, Thursday, 13 March 2014 23:33 (ten years ago) link
Why is all including NDT so hostile towards string theorists? Just curious.
― Evan, Friday, 14 March 2014 00:02 (ten years ago) link
I had the same question as Evan and found this article:
http://io9.com/5890789/the-trouble-with-string-theory
― anonanon, Friday, 14 March 2014 00:19 (ten years ago) link
also this xkcd posted in comments there:
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17hipu0tf2q1spng/original.png
― anonanon, Friday, 14 March 2014 00:20 (ten years ago) link
Before I jump into that article... How did they stumble on that initial idea?
Was it really a (mostly) random conclusion they're working backwards from?
― Evan, Friday, 14 March 2014 00:24 (ten years ago) link
Saw the stream of the new episode 1. The music is the least of the problems here; at best, I want to believe that its depthless tone is an intentional choice to reach a much larger audience than Sagan did with version 1. I want to support the project, I hope it does well, I might make it through one or two more episodes, but I also want to believe that even the most CGI-saturated 8 year old would still prefer the original show, even today, I just do.
― Milton Parker, Friday, 14 March 2014 17:34 (ten years ago) link
Your probably wrong. 8 year olds would like neither.
― Jeff, Saturday, 15 March 2014 01:36 (ten years ago) link
whoever just ilxmailed me, the answer is kinda. i work in astrophysics.
― caek, Saturday, 15 March 2014 01:38 (ten years ago) link
i am on record as having issues with cox but dear god ndt is irritating.
the crap effects didnt help him.
― treeship's assailing (darraghmac), Saturday, 22 March 2014 00:06 (ten years ago) link
I find it difficult to dislike ndt, sure he isn't for everybody but he is more of a working presenter than Cox who seems like an overindulged solipsistic little shit, gurning away at himself in a mirror for a good living.
― xelab, Saturday, 22 March 2014 01:03 (ten years ago) link
http://i62.tinypic.com/2wegmz8.gif
― StanM, Saturday, 22 March 2014 11:59 (ten years ago) link
Daughter's initial skepticism was overcome within 5 minutes so I am into this
― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 22 March 2014 16:40 (ten years ago) link
Her first comment: "why isnt he wearing a spacesuit?"
― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 22 March 2014 16:41 (ten years ago) link
i thought i was watching a science show. and then he got into a space ship.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 22 March 2014 17:05 (ten years ago) link
it's an imagination ship
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Saturday, 22 March 2014 17:15 (ten years ago) link
right. that does make more sense because i was watching it on my imagination tube.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 22 March 2014 17:36 (ten years ago) link
when he called it that, this was all i could think of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTn7xtVsE6U
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 22 March 2014 17:37 (ten years ago) link
How could you not like NDT? The man is a national treasure.
― Jeff, Saturday, 22 March 2014 18:13 (ten years ago) link
call it an exchange rate issue so
― treeship's assailing (darraghmac), Saturday, 22 March 2014 18:17 (ten years ago) link
the dizzying intellectual heights of NdGT
http://storify.com/erinleeryan/monday-night-aas223
― caek, Saturday, 22 March 2014 19:40 (ten years ago) link
this is def aimed at kids right? and adults who like kids shit of course.
― rhyme heals all goons (m bison), Saturday, 22 March 2014 21:26 (ten years ago) link
also that is the terriblest powerpoint by NDT altho i a gen a fan of his i guess?
― rhyme heals all goons (m bison), Saturday, 22 March 2014 21:29 (ten years ago) link
it's aimed at ppl who fucking love science
― balls, Saturday, 22 March 2014 21:59 (ten years ago) link
And imagination-based spacecraft
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 23 March 2014 00:54 (ten years ago) link
it's cute that you guys have so much confidence in the average adult's scientific knowledge in 2014
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Sunday, 23 March 2014 01:01 (ten years ago) link
i dont mean in terms of content! a lot of the stuff i saw in the evolution episode was like cliff notes and cool efx version of some intro college classes i remember. i mean more in presentation, it definitely seems like "what are we gonna do to hook tweens man, SPACESHIP"
― rhyme heals all goons (m bison), Sunday, 23 March 2014 03:04 (ten years ago) link
i haven't seen it but i can't imagine there's any amount of dumbing down and spazzing up they could do to this thing that wouldn't have it blow my mind this thing is on network tv in 2014
― balls, Sunday, 23 March 2014 03:08 (ten years ago) link
however briefly
i think its def cool that its on too! i just think its target demo is older kids and their parents m/l.
― rhyme heals all goons (m bison), Sunday, 23 March 2014 03:15 (ten years ago) link
idk i think the spaceship is cool, it's just a clever means of getting ndt and the audience from the outer reaches of space and down to the molecular level w/o it coming off dry. they could have made it way cornier; it's not like ndt is hunched over a command console saying "activate science boosters" or anything
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Sunday, 23 March 2014 03:32 (ten years ago) link
btw i am not a tween
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Sunday, 23 March 2014 03:33 (ten years ago) link
yeah this whole endeavor is m/l Science + Wonder 101 but hats off to fox for producing it, even if it was likely just part of seth macfarlane'a contract negotiation
― Clay, Sunday, 23 March 2014 03:38 (ten years ago) link