The Only One Who Could Ever Reach Me Was The Son Of A Preacher Man

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Ha ha ha. That does tend to happen... and the other way around, too.

My dad came from a long line of Presbyterian and Dissenting and Wesleyan and More Protestant Than The Protestants Ministers - and he is a dedicated atheist.

My mum came from a long line of Atheists and Freethinkers - and she is an Priest.

Go figure.

I'm just confused.

Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Kate, please to tell Marg0 v. Archbishop.

suzy (suzy), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I'll tell you when I see you.

Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link

My father got ordained when I was three. He pastors an Evangelical church that has Lutheran roots-- pretty mild compared to what you think of when Evangelicals come to mind.

I am a lot closer to Christianity the Atheism these days, but just get stuck playing Devil's Advocate for both.

I have a pretty good relationship with my parents, comparatively.

I ended up moving an average of every five years growing up as a result of Dad getting "called" to a new church within the denomination. I don't begrudge this at all; I think it has made me a much different person than I would be if I had lived in the same part of the country my whole life.

When we lived in a small town in New England (age 7 - 12) it was very weird because 90% of the town was Catholic and none of my schoolmates could wrap their brains around the fact that my FAHTHA WUZZA PRIEST. I got ostracized pretty badly and my first fistfight ever resulted. I ended up trying to hide what my dad did for several years until I realized in High School (now living in the West) that it wasn't a big deal.

mahalo 4 ur kokua (grady), Friday, 5 January 2007 01:33 (seventeen years ago) link

also, as i stressedon the "LOOK AT THOSE SUCKERS" thread, Joe Simpson was a Youth Pastor prior to being a Dughter Pimp. Youth Pastor rarely equates Clergy in the states.

More like Baby Sitter with a pony-tail and a Bible.

mahalo 4 ur kokua (grady), Friday, 5 January 2007 01:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I always thought Tarantino's use of "Son of a Preacher Man" in "Pulp Fiction" was meant as a clue to Travolta's character's past and present.

A Radio Picture (Rrrickey), Friday, 5 January 2007 02:00 (seventeen years ago) link

My father was ordained in two churches - UCC and Church of Scotland.
I think the weird part for ministers kids is growing up in a house your family does not own.

aimurchie (aimurchie), Friday, 5 January 2007 02:59 (seventeen years ago) link

My father's church is now an evangelical church. I like driving by occassionaly. it's always weird.
I might have to talk to the minister of the church. it would be a big thing for me...to reclaim the church. I kind of want to see it, y'know? The insides.

aimurchie (aimurchie), Friday, 5 January 2007 04:50 (seventeen years ago) link

i never lived in a rectory.

When we moved to new england it was at a time when real estate prices were super high so the church helped with a down payment, but my parents still owned the house.

must be kind of weird though, for those who did.

mahalo 4 ur kokua (grady), Friday, 5 January 2007 05:18 (seventeen years ago) link

My college roommate, Dean Johnson.

http://a509.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/13/l_073052cbf733d605cd96b3611b44f0f4.jpg

Great guy, wish I'd kept in touch.

Arthurgh! A Music War (Arthur), Friday, 5 January 2007 05:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Parsonage.

aimurchie (aimurchie), Friday, 5 January 2007 05:39 (seventeen years ago) link

parsonage. of course.

mahalo 4 ur kokua (grady), Friday, 5 January 2007 05:43 (seventeen years ago) link

My dad left the seminary to become a lawyer.

Tape Store (Tape Store), Friday, 5 January 2007 06:25 (seventeen years ago) link

My Dad's a United Church of Christ minister, and I grew up in a parsonage[*].
During the blizzard of 78, I was ten years old, and all the snow got
plowed into the big parking lot inbetween my house and the church.
FUCKING RULED.
I turned athiest at 8 though. My dad didn't (doesn't) have a problem
with that. We like some of the same religious writers actually (or at least
Kazantzakis).
[*] Although I don't remember ever hearing that term growing up. What
do UCC types call it?

shieldforyoureyes (shieldforyoureyes), Friday, 5 January 2007 06:54 (seventeen years ago) link

My uncle is a canon, boom boom, the whole of that side of the family are deeply religious. My auld man is an organ enthusiast (ahem) several of the family have organs in their homes - big ones with pipes and shit - and gather round on a sunday evening with hymnbooks to drown out the cicadas.

I am not religious at all.

Rumpsy Pumpsy (Rumpie), Friday, 5 January 2007 07:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I think the weird part for ministers kids is growing up in a house your family does not own.

i never really noticed this!

lex pretend (lex pretend), Friday, 5 January 2007 09:40 (seventeen years ago) link

it's also not terribly weird anyway, hi dere council housing.

benrique (Enrique), Friday, 5 January 2007 09:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, it's probably not that weird. Our house was down the street from the church. Living right next door (or in the front yard) of the church might be a tiny bit weird. maybe the weird part is knowing the church - the congregation - sort of own your parent and your home.
And God is your fathers boss. That's always gonna be weird.

aimurchie (aimurchie), Friday, 5 January 2007 15:53 (seventeen years ago) link

i would have loved having church within walking distance from home.

waiting around forever after services were done and being the last car out of the parking lot every fucking week was near-traumatic. i still get twitchy on Sunday afternoons.

mahalo 4 ur kokua (grady), Friday, 5 January 2007 17:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, Jessica and Thingy Simpson, right?

Actually, I think you'll find its Thingee Simpson.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 5 January 2007 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link

This thread is provoking all sorts of memories.
I got chastised by both of my parents for fidgeting in church, one Sunday. I kept getting up, and then sitting back down. Because I thought I was sitting on God's long, flowing white beard! I was very concerned that God couldn't float around, as he is wont to do. i was six, so forgive me.

I liked cleaning up after communion - retrieving the communion cups from the cup holders in the back of the pews. And pouring sweet juice down my throat. (not much has changed, there!)

My father kept a key under the altar - perhaps a key to one of the doors of the church? - and I was the only one small enough to crawl behind, and under, the altar to get the key. I loved it! It was the best secret hiding place ever! Thinking about it now, of course, makes me nervous about the implications of LOVING being under the altar.

The God=boss part is always going to be weird, I think. being a ministers daughter meant lots and lots of attention. And maybe i was savvy enough, at six, to figure out that all these people were paying attention to me because my father was in charge of their mortal souls.

My parents conducted a very seventies, churchie type club for married parishioners - the Ball and Chain Club! Which would be referenced in conversation - "You need to go to bed because the Ball and Chain Club is coming over!"

Anywhoo, my three brothers went to St. Thomas choir school around the same time as my father having this church. St. Thomas is about as high church as you can get, without moving to England. When my parents divorced, and my dad moved back to Scotland, I horrified everyone in the tiny Church of Scotland parish by genuflecting.

I was baptised Protestant, confirmed Episcopalian. An Episco-Prot.

my brother is graduating from Yale Divinity this year. it will be fun to see where he ends up - because he is a great preacher, already. He truly uderstands what a parish is - he's a good shepherd, and all that, I guess.

Until he is "placed" - or hired (the Anglican Bishops have a lot of sway in where and how anyone gets placed), I have been enjoying going to lots of different churches. (Waiting to go to my brother's church!)
I like the UCC in Northampton - because it was founded by Jonatahn Edwards, and there's a fierce statue of him in the sanctuary. "Sinner's In The Hands of An Angry God!" The pastor has written some great treatises about Jonathan Edwards and his image in the sanctuary.
I like the free thinking Unitarians - but I miss the churchiness.
Not so fond of the Catholic church - probably because I'm not Catholic. But the pageantry is good.

I call it "church shopping". And I think seeking an experience, a portal, a temple....is a valid activity to pursue.


aimurchie (aimurchie), Friday, 5 January 2007 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

As much fun as it is to refer to God as "my mum's boss" in reality, it isn't strictly true. The Bishops and Archbishops kinda come first...

Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Friday, 5 January 2007 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Arthurgh!, I love love love Dean Johnson and the Velvet Mafia. His email address is on the band's website if you want to get in touch.

Je4nn3 Fuhfuh (Je4nne Fury), Friday, 5 January 2007 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, also, my pop was in the seminary.

Je4nn3 Fuhfuh (Je4nne Fury), Friday, 5 January 2007 18:36 (seventeen years ago) link

My dad got some sort of official reprimand for ranting against Nixon
from the pulpit, back in the day. Ha ha.
I remember him taking me to the top of the steeple once. Which involved
a few levels of successively narrower staircases, then one or two levels
of tall laders leading through trap doors. Very nice.
Having the sunday school's playground entirely to myself for every week
minus an hour or two was swell.
I'm not really sure what my mindset was at that point (at 8 or so) but I
do recall that I wanted to be a terrorist when I grew up. Don't remember
what inspired that... SLA? Red Army Faction? **SPK**?

shieldforyoureyes (shieldforyoureyes), Friday, 5 January 2007 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link

i went through a phase where my chosen answer to "what do you want to be when you grow up?" was "a ninja for the CIA."

mahalo 4 ur kokua (grady), Saturday, 6 January 2007 01:44 (seventeen years ago) link

we could have grown up and fought eachother in secret wars.

mahalo 4 ur kokua (grady), Saturday, 6 January 2007 01:45 (seventeen years ago) link

My dad left the seminary to foment left-wing revolution.

jimn (jimnaseum), Saturday, 6 January 2007 02:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think Protestants have bishops and arch-bishops. So it might be more of a "Nearer My God To Thee" thingy.
I don't know that much about the governing body of UCC. That's the problem with Episco-Prots, in general. Lost between two similar, but very different, forms of faith!

Discussions of hymns are sort of de rigeur in my family. It can be very off putting to an interloper. Singing the doxology, in three or four part harmony, is expected. (or, maybe, graciously encouraged.)

"The Churches One Foundation" was one of my first memorized hymns - and it still haunts me because of the marriage part. I get it now, but at the time I could not figure out how Jesus got married and died for his bride. Mary confusion! Plot summary please!

I'm a HUGE fan of "Come Labor On".

aimurchie (aimurchie), Saturday, 6 January 2007 05:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Hymn recognition happens to me all the time -- some movie character like the cleaning lady will start singing as she works and I'll have "O for a Thousand Tongues to Praise" or "Christ the Lord is Risen Today" stuck in my head for the rest of the flick. I don't mind that much, the old Covenant & Methodist hymnals have such rich arrangements. New ones are almost always stripped down and musically poorer, which is frustrating.

Laurel (Laurel), Saturday, 6 January 2007 05:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Laurel - did you grow up in a Covenant church?

mahalo 4 ur kokua (grady), Saturday, 6 January 2007 05:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I did!

Laurel (Laurel), Saturday, 6 January 2007 05:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I went to CHIC twice and everything.

Laurel (Laurel), Saturday, 6 January 2007 05:28 (seventeen years ago) link

omg. i was at chic 1980 when i was one week old.

mahalo 4 ur kokua (grady), Saturday, 6 January 2007 05:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Hah! I went in '91 and '94 (as CHIC-plus). Where are you from?

Laurel (Laurel), Saturday, 6 January 2007 05:30 (seventeen years ago) link

haha. my dad is a cov. pastor. he's been at every chic since 1980. if you went to "swim-in theatre" or "block party" at either of those, you have his genius to thank.

he was a pastor in kansas and mass. when i was younger, but we moved to AZ 15 years ago and he's still a pastor there.

i graduated from NPU and everything.

where did you grow up?

mahalo 4 ur kokua (grady), Saturday, 6 January 2007 05:33 (seventeen years ago) link

West Michigan, town of Whitehall. I went to CHIC with Forest Park, though, cos they were bigger than us and could rent buses and plan bike trips and everything (I was in a group that biked from mid-Michigan to Bloomington, IN in '91!). And oh fuck yeah, the "block party". This is hi-larious.

Laurel (Laurel), Saturday, 6 January 2007 05:34 (seventeen years ago) link

BUT THEN I SPOILED IT ALL BY GOING TO CALVIN COLLEGE OMG.

Laurel (Laurel), Saturday, 6 January 2007 05:36 (seventeen years ago) link

jesus forgives you, laurel.

mahalo 4 ur kokua (grady), Saturday, 6 January 2007 05:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I have so many pictures from both trips! Somewhere. But no scanner.

Laurel (Laurel), Saturday, 6 January 2007 05:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesus better fucking forgive me, I lived on a dry campus with opposite-sex visiting hours for two years and took the theology requirement. If Protestants believed in Purgatory, I'd have it out of the way already.

Laurel (Laurel), Saturday, 6 January 2007 05:39 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm a bit younger. i did chic 97 and was on staff (at the skatepark) in 00 and 03.

mahalo 4 ur kokua (grady), Saturday, 6 January 2007 05:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Were they both in Ft Collins? Or where? CHIC+ was technically sold to us as "staffy" but when we got there we didn't have anything extra to do that I can recall. I'm not sure why they went back on the idea that you're only supposed to go once, unless it was just the popularity of the event. We DID get to stay in really nice hotel rooms, though, because they ran out of on-campus housing.

Laurel (Laurel), Saturday, 6 January 2007 05:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I snuck onto your thread under cover of night, though -- I am not a PK of any stripe.

Laurel (Laurel), Saturday, 6 January 2007 05:46 (seventeen years ago) link

i went to chic at ft collins but the two i worked on as staff were in Knoxville.

i think that chic plus thing only lasted one year.

i was going to go back and work the skatepark with my dad this past summer but moving out here got in the way.

the big scandal in 03 was that they were going to change the name starting in 06 but i think they got talked out of it. one of the main reasons: at the time, chic.com was registered as a porn site. i'm not sure why they ended up keeping it.

mahalo 4 ur kokua (grady), Saturday, 6 January 2007 05:47 (seventeen years ago) link

It's kind of adorable that they opened a skatepark at some point. When I was going the skaters were still the bad boys, and were going out at night to grind curbs an' shit.

Laurel (Laurel), Saturday, 6 January 2007 05:50 (seventeen years ago) link

it was my mom's pet project for four straight chics! they call her the skatepark lady.

mahalo 4 ur kokua (grady), Saturday, 6 January 2007 05:53 (seventeen years ago) link

also, getting back on topic: my mom plays drums in the church band.

but i miss the organ n' hymn church music of my youth. all this praise chorus, read the power-point screen shlock doesn't do anything for me. (though i still enjoy hearing my mother play the drums).

mahalo 4 ur kokua (grady), Saturday, 6 January 2007 05:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I agree, my parents went to a church called "Celebration" for a while, in a converted elementary school, and I hate that powerpoint schtick more than I can express at this hour (and on wine). Praise choruses are for Portage Lake Covenant Bible Camp and campfires on hiking trips AND THEY SHOUDL STAY THERE.

Laurel (Laurel), Saturday, 6 January 2007 06:04 (seventeen years ago) link

portage lake is on the list of covenant camps i have not been to. i've been to about half though.

mahalo 4 ur kokua (grady), Saturday, 6 January 2007 06:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Whoa, this is one I did not know.

http://www.leica-camera.us/assets/media/img9504.jpg

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 19 April 2007 16:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Thread about preacher's kids? Me to thread.

My parents bought a house at age... 45? Because the new church gave them a housing allowance instead of a manse. They're paying the mortgage until they're well old.

What's weird is how my dad treated religion and church as less of a lifestyle and more of a job. Like, we only ever said "grace" when there was company from church, to keep up appearances or something. It really made me realize how church is more of a community thing and less of a god thing (at least, to canajun presbys)

Will M., Thursday, 19 April 2007 16:51 (seventeen years ago) link


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