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http://i.imgur.com/BHWjc1x.jpg

, Monday, 31 March 2014 00:38 (ten years ago) link

lol

purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 31 March 2014 14:33 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

lol @ this guy

(CNN) -- Months after accepting asylum in Russia, fugitive U.S. intelligence leaker Edward Snowden on Thursday asked Russian President Vladimir Putin about Moscow's own surveillance practices.

"Does Russia intercept, store or analyze in any way the communications of millions of individuals?" Snowden asked in English via a video link during Putin's annual question-and-answer program, which was broadcast on state television. "And do you believe that simply increasing the effectiveness of intelligence or law enforcement investigations can justify placing societies, rather than their subjects, under surveillance?"

http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/17/world/europe/russia-snowden-putin/

Mordy , Thursday, 17 April 2014 18:13 (ten years ago) link

Putin, a former intelligence agent, noted that his questioner, a former National Security Agency contractor, shares that background. "So, we can speak in professional language," he said.

lol

purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 17 April 2014 18:22 (ten years ago) link

This is a song my band just wrote about the NSA.

http://thedustbunnies.bandcamp.com/track/honey-demo

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 02:38 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

Brian Williams of NBC got to interview Snowden. Interview next week.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 May 2014 22:32 (ten years ago) link

This is disturbing.

schwantz, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 17:24 (ten years ago) link

is it just me or does this make it worse?
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/29/us/politics/snowden-says-he-was-a-spy-not-just-an-analyst.html

like it's not that he was an employee who saw things that upset him and he blew a whistle. acc to his account he was actually a part of the US security/espionage infrastructure and betrayed that confidence.

Mordy, Wednesday, 28 May 2014 16:41 (ten years ago) link

"make it worse"

"a part of the US security/espionage infrastructure and betrayed that confidence"

Make what worse? You still think his actions were worse than the NSA's? One can be a whistleblower against unconstitutional behavior in any government job

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 28 May 2014 16:48 (ten years ago) link

no, not worse than the NSA's. worse in that it makes my opinion of him lower.

Mordy, Wednesday, 28 May 2014 16:49 (ten years ago) link

The House even voted last week to curb some of the NSA's domestic bulk-data collection spying program.

Like with Greenwald one does not have like a person, to recognize that they have done some good things

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 28 May 2014 16:52 (ten years ago) link

he was actually a part of the US security/espionage infrastructure and betrayed that confidence.

― Mordy, Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:41 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he's always said he put the constitution above the loyalty oath.

purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 28 May 2014 18:23 (ten years ago) link

"he was actually a part of the US security/espionage infrastructure and betrayed that confidence."

you mean like the way the US security apparatus has betrayed the confidence of its own citizens?

wmlynch, Wednesday, 28 May 2014 19:22 (ten years ago) link

dnftt

KrafTwerk (sleeve), Wednesday, 28 May 2014 19:42 (ten years ago) link

Brian Williams interview about to start.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 May 2014 02:00 (ten years ago) link

betraying the criminal American state is about the most awesome thing anyone can do.

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 29 May 2014 02:10 (ten years ago) link

it's always really hard to hear politicians speak out against snowden. it's like, obviously i don't give a fuck what you think about the guy who made your job / lying to me more difficult.

building a desert (art), Thursday, 29 May 2014 02:13 (ten years ago) link

boy he is rticulate

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 May 2014 02:18 (ten years ago) link

articulate teoo

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 May 2014 02:18 (ten years ago) link

gah is this gonna be rebroadcast

xpost

yeah he's also had a LOT of time to think things over

display name changed. (amateurist), Thursday, 29 May 2014 02:48 (ten years ago) link

like how guys in prison for a long time often have an uncanny ability to explain their own thought processes, b/c they have a lot of practice

display name changed. (amateurist), Thursday, 29 May 2014 02:50 (ten years ago) link

Manson

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 29 May 2014 02:55 (ten years ago) link

this after-the-interview stuff on NBC's website is pretty bad.

i find it so weird that there are people who basically think "i mean it's fine if he wants to commit civil disobedience, but does he have to break the law to do it?"

display name changed. (amateurist), Thursday, 29 May 2014 03:16 (ten years ago) link

and chuck todd still looks like he takes a shit and wipes it on his face

display name changed. (amateurist), Thursday, 29 May 2014 03:17 (ten years ago) link

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101712444

In the wide-ranging and provocative interview, Snowden suggested that a deal could be reached with the U.S. government for him to come home, said he had tried to go through channels before leaking documents to journalists, and described his transition from enthusiastic supporter of American foreign policy, who enlisted for U.S. Army special operations training during the Iraq War, to a disillusioned intelligence worker who said he came to believe that the government took advantage of the September 11 terror attack to overreach into the private lives of all Americans.

When Williams asked, "Do you see yourself as a patriot?" Snowden answered immediately, "I do."

curmudgeon, Thursday, 29 May 2014 14:10 (ten years ago) link

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/05/in-nbc-interview-snowden-says-nsa-watches-our-digital-thoughts-develop/

Responding to Snowden’s comments on his reasons for staying in Russia (which was aired as an excerpt on NBC TODAY on Wednesday morning), Secretary of State John Kerry fired back: "For a supposedly smart guy, that's a pretty dumb answer, frankly... Edward Snowden is a coward,” Kerry told Chuck Todd on MSNBC. “He is a traitor. And he has betrayed his country… and should face the music.” Kerry continued to challenge Snowden to "man up and come back to the United States."

What's more, Kerry made the case that Snowden’s leaks of classified documents revealing the extent of NSA spying programs has given valuable information to terrorists and has thrown a wrench in US counter-terrorism efforts. “If this man is a patriot, he should stay in the United States and make his case,” Kerry said. “Patriots don't go to Russia, they don't seek asylum in Cuba, they don't seek asylum in Venezuela, they fight their cause here.”

display name changed. (amateurist), Thursday, 29 May 2014 21:32 (ten years ago) link

John Kerry, Frenchman, parasailor, and flipflopper.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 May 2014 21:33 (ten years ago) link

hey guys, turns out the Dems ran Dick Cheney for prez the last THREE times. xp

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 29 May 2014 21:35 (ten years ago) link

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/wp/2014/05/29/traitor-or-patriot-what-a-silly-question-after-inside-snowden/?hpid=z3

eh, that's obvious just a hook for viewers, but the interview itself is not terrible.

display name changed. (amateurist), Thursday, 29 May 2014 21:37 (ten years ago) link

no, not bad at all considering the interlocutor

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 May 2014 21:38 (ten years ago) link

hey guys, turns out the Dems ran Dick Cheney for prez the last THREE times. xp

― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, May 29, 2014 4:35 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

omg, really? keep up with these revelatory nuggets, because there's no one else on this board as fearless in speaking truth to power. i raise a gloved fist in salute.

display name changed. (amateurist), Thursday, 29 May 2014 21:38 (ten years ago) link

every time i read an ap-style article about a snowden update it contains a single-sentence paragraph along the lines of "Some think Snowden is a patriot, while others consider him a traitor."

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 29 May 2014 21:38 (ten years ago) link

yeah

it's weird, i cannot even fathom anyone outside of gov't thinking he's a traitor pure and simple, but then again i don't get out much

display name changed. (amateurist), Thursday, 29 May 2014 21:39 (ten years ago) link

on MSNBC this morning Carson Daly (did you know he works for "The Today Show"? I didn't) crowed that opinions had flipped after last night's broadcast: now 61 percent or something Americans who watched think Snowden is a "hero."

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 May 2014 21:41 (ten years ago) link

a traitorous hero tho

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 29 May 2014 21:42 (ten years ago) link

hero... or zero?

display name changed. (amateurist), Thursday, 29 May 2014 21:42 (ten years ago) link

are there any conspiracy theorists who think that snowden is a false-flag dude put up to it by the bushobama admin to obscure the even more terrifying truth about the world security state?

display name changed. (amateurist), Thursday, 29 May 2014 21:43 (ten years ago) link

61 percent or something Americans aren't sure which of those two guys was brian williams so

that reminds me, in the interview he didn't say he misses his girlfriend. he kind of fucked her over IMO, although we have no idea what their relationship was about of course.

display name changed. (amateurist), Thursday, 29 May 2014 22:01 (ten years ago) link

Why is NBC’s framing of this issue coming down to the blindingly simple question of “traitor” or “patriot”? (“Do you view former NSA contractor Edward Snowden as a #Patriot or a #Traitor? Post your message on Twitter using the appropriate hashtag and check back here to see what others are saying,” the website urges.)

Washington Post writer expected more complexity from NBC's marketing folks. Although Chuck Todd might have framed it that way also

curmudgeon, Thursday, 29 May 2014 22:05 (ten years ago) link

Cara_C Jun 14, 2013

It's possible. The Obama administration seems to be trying to provoke civil unrest at every turn with its outrageous unConstitutional behavior and non-stop scandals. But apparently, the sleeping giant isn't biting, probably theorizing that we still have a chance to avert the destruction of America in the next midterms.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 May 2014 22:06 (ten years ago) link

Why is NBC’s framing of this issue coming down to the blindingly simple question of “traitor” or “patriot”? (“Do you view former NSA contractor Edward Snowden as a #Patriot or a #Traitor? Post your message on Twitter using the appropriate hashtag and check back here to see what others are saying,” the website urges.)

Washington Post writer expected more complexity from NBC's marketing folks. Although Chuck Todd might have framed it that way also

― curmudgeon, Thursday, May 29, 2014 5:05 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

“Do you like NBC's framing of Brian Williams's interview with former NSA contractor Edward Snowden as a choice between #Patriot or a #Traitor? #Yes or #No. Post your message on Twitter using the appropriate hashtag and check back here to see what others are saying."

display name changed. (amateurist), Thursday, 29 May 2014 22:08 (ten years ago) link

americans are also retarded

#sliced bread or #super satan covered in shit

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 29 May 2014 22:39 (ten years ago) link

Important to remember it has to be one or the other, no grey areas allowed.

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 30 May 2014 00:02 (ten years ago) link

No -- American pundits are retarded.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 May 2014 02:30 (ten years ago) link

am, shove it; i tried.

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Friday, 30 May 2014 02:36 (ten years ago) link

every time i read an ap-style article about a snowden update it contains a single-sentence paragraph along the lines of "Some think Snowden is a patriot, while others consider him a traitor."

that Garry Wills book title about the press attitude toward Reagan applies exponentially now" On Bended Knee

(no one wants to be closed down, yeah? that's coming)

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Friday, 30 May 2014 02:53 (ten years ago) link


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