"I don't even own a TV"

people don't say "i don't even own a tv" anymore they say "i don't even own a tv i watch everything on the internet" but imo that is still an indefensibly snobby thing to say cause you're telling me you probably don't watch baseball or SVU marathons

jk i do both those things on the internet now

do people ask you, unsolicited, what you think of a particular television show?

I'd probably just say that I don't watch that show. I think judging people for owning/not owning a television is odd, but I recognize that it's seen as a status quo of sorts and I don't want to turn television ownership, churchgoing, or anything else into a discussion or judgment, so I just avoid talking about them.

I'm also an outlier in that I'm a 30-something guy who is unmarried and has no children in the middle part of the country, but I don't go around saying "I'm not even married" or w/e.

they say what did you think of doctor who last night

I don't watch doctor who, was it good?

what?

and i say i dont know i dont even have a tv and then they're annoyed im like well i never wanted this conversation i believe in silence in the workplace

see, the real problem there is you hate small talk and shut it down by doing this television statement

i ask ppl if they own a tv as a pre-emptive move, at the bus stop, wherever, i just drop the bomb in advance, then walk off before i get an answer. they're all cunts anyway.

and then some other time theyll say what did you think of this other show and i never heard of it, and i think about different ways of saying i dont even have a tv why are we having this conversation again, i thought bv saying i dont even have a tv you wouldnt come back and ask me about some OTHER show, because i dont want to offend them but in the end i just say sorry i dont even have a tv again maybe they'll stop it with the tv show questions eventually idk

i don't even own a speedboat

I have a tv but I don't have broadcast signal or cable service, so find it hard to succinctly get across my superiority wrt this device/medium

people have never asked me unsolicited, what I think of a particular television show, and never have, not even when I worked in an office with watercoolers and awkward small-talk. it's a myth... isn't it? or did I miss out?

lol

negative strawman, bold move

idk on other hand seeing as they start the whole tv conversation thing because seriously what person without a tv starts a tv conversation....well then maybe they know i'm going to say sorry i dont even have a tv so they want the annoyance because they enjoy judging and looking down on me because of it, and when you put it like that who am i to spoil the fun

I think I have only seen that in that "God Bless America" movie in the last few years, in its satirical takedown of american culture, so it is possibly a thing people do

i haven't even seen "God Bless America"

we need your country, class, and social status to really make a call here, cog

I'm guessing UK by the Doctor Who ref

actually, im a european atheist myself

darragh on fire

The weather? I don't even own any sensory organs.

I don't think ilxors kvetching about people being strident about their lack of tv ownership and cog's obnoxious coworkers being judgmental about the same are coming from the same place

v fancy worldview darraghmac, kudos

oh my parents brought me up that way actually, they would never allow god in the house. in europe.

a person can be judged by different groups of people from different attacking positions, perhaps it would be simpler if i just got one

yeah get a tv dude sons of anarchy is p good

I think I'm trying to say that no one invoking this stereotype on ilx has you in mind, but if you want to play martyr....

ums otm

martvr

I don't watch tv, I'm too busy raisin' hell with my motorcycle gang

There was definitely a point where not owning a TV was a thing some people were proud of. Also not owning a car. Then it was all about not owning a cell phone which gradually morphed into not owning a smart phone. I pretty recently heard someone say "I don't even have a facebook account". Cancelling cable seems to be pretty popular these days. I'm gonna try to jump ahead of the curve a bit and start boasting that I don't have a netflix account.

i don't even have an ilx login

If my coworkers are talking about some church-related activity, I don't say "I don't even go to church, I'm an atheist"

then I tell them I totally vape, though

― have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Monday, 31 March 2014 21:03 (24 minutes ago) Permalink

Well obviously you don't just butt in and say "hey everybody I don't go to church," but if someone asked you a church-related or religion-related question, wouldn't you say "I don't go to church?" Because at some point it just kind of sounds like fear to not say so imo.

not so much fear as just fuck this i don't even feel like getting into it...it's the same reason i delete every other tweet and ilx post before i post it

fear is a man's bets friend

why shouldnt people be pleased at not owning a car..they're bad for the environment!

if someone asked you a church-related or religion-related question, wouldn't you say "I don't go to church?"

nah, I'd go to HR

and if someone asks me if i could take some stuff somewhere in my car i say im sorry i dont even have a car not no my car is at the garage getting its fibulator decompressed

it's the same reason i delete every other tweet and ilx post before i post it

otm

i feel like caring too much about religion or getting upset is un-atheistic. if something doesn't exist you should just kinda shrug your shoulders at it not get all uptight. it's like getting uptight about a leprechaun. just a wry internal lol is the only response.

the thing is there's a difference between "I don't own a a car" and "I don't even own a car". I mean obviously it's better to not own a car, but some people are jerks about it.

xxp

if something doesn't exist you should just kinda shrug your shoulders at it not get all uptight.

just a bit of murdering of gay men and female genital mutilation and worldwide terrorism, let's be cool, atheists.

if someone asked you a church-related or religion-related question, wouldn't you say "I don't go to church?"

nah, I'd go to HR

― have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Monday, 31 March 2014 21:35 (9 minutes ago) Permalink

lol ok right

yeah thats part of what i was getting at! saying "i dont have a tv" sure who is going to get weird abt that but responding to "hey have you ever seen parks and rec" with "I DONT EVEN OWN A TV" is def a different thing. i mean, i dont have a tv, i have a netflix/hulu/videogame player that is called a tv so i have no horse in this race really. xxp

idk DG i kinda feel like thats not necessarily where most theists are at yknow but its true i dont pry neither

the thing is there's a difference between "I don't own a a car" and "I don't even own a car". I mean obviously it's better to not own a car, but some people are jerks about it.

xxp

― silverfish, Monday, March 31, 2014 5:41 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"Jerks" how? The feelings of car-owners in the room get hurt?

so its that they feel bad about themselves because they own a car and a tv and they are hurting the environment, but they dont want to admit it so they take it out on me, and somehow im the dick? well if they didnt talk about cars and tvs the whole time the whole mess could have been avoided

and before somebody gets incredulous and strawman grand inquisitor on me that is an actual conversation that i had at a super dull party after said dork waxed poetic about Baby Mama the motion picture so i reserve all rights to clown that fool

Nah hurting its about how you carry yourself imo not the ripple effect intended nor otherwise

the point is that there is a very different connotation to the "i dont even X" and the "i dont X" that is not terribly difficult to parse