And really while tv owning is quite innocuous the views expressed above are quite indicative of non-thinking majority viewpoints where it's implicit that outsiders should just "fit in"
― cog, Monday, 31 March 2014 22:02 (ten years ago) link
"There's no racism here"
how dare people make a vague assumption that you mostly conform to the status quo of the majority of people in your area--have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh)
maybe that's it. I live 200 miles north of my co-workers. they're probably just scared of what's beyond the wall.
― thomasintrouble, Monday, 31 March 2014 22:02 (ten years ago) link
lol I was kind of waiting for that
glad to hear that your lack of watching television is comparable to societal discrimination based on race
― have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Monday, 31 March 2014 22:04 (ten years ago) link
discrimination against television non-watchers: AS BAD AS RACISM
― have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Monday, 31 March 2014 22:05 (ten years ago) link
― cog, Monday, March 31, 2014 6:02 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
take a look at the choices you're making right now
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 31 March 2014 22:06 (ten years ago) link
Branwell pitting two sides against each other and disappearing abruptly is some next-level puppetmaster shit.
― Neanderthal, Monday, 31 March 2014 22:08 (ten years ago) link
Maybe Branwell is working on a very long post
― polyphonic, Monday, 31 March 2014 22:09 (ten years ago) link
og are u just sore cos clockwork is kinda passé these days, is that it
ha genuinely i dont even know what that is
― cog, Monday, 31 March 2014 22:09 (ten years ago) link
conclusions:
1) if you don't own a television you hate the transgendered2) it's racist to not watch The Wire3) we should bomb the crap out of Iraq
― Neanderthal, Monday, 31 March 2014 22:09 (ten years ago) link
people who simply are something vs people who insist on something
― goole, Monday, 31 March 2014 22:12 (ten years ago) link
choose wisely
― goole, Monday, 31 March 2014 22:13 (ten years ago) link
namaste, just be
― have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Monday, 31 March 2014 22:16 (ten years ago) link
I should know better than to stir the hornet's nest, but sometimes it's really fun to watch them get so outraged when shoe is on other foot!Collapse Reply Retweet Favorite More
― boxall, Monday, 31 March 2014 22:17 (ten years ago) link
Nuclear option
― fauxpas cola (darraghmac), Monday, 31 March 2014 22:28 (ten years ago) link
Cog it was a pun on cog, clockwork, cog, is all
― fauxpas cola (darraghmac), Monday, 31 March 2014 22:29 (ten years ago) link
it's mad fun to form huge judgements of people off of the tiniest thing you know about them so i support either poll option equally; it doesn't matter if you like tv or not, the important thing is that we can all judge each other quickly and decisively based on the most trivial aspects of our personalities.
― real myst opportunity (sleepingbag), Monday, 31 March 2014 22:34 (ten years ago) link
Well, ya
― fauxpas cola (darraghmac), Monday, 31 March 2014 22:35 (ten years ago) link
everybody should be killed
― Neanderthal, Monday, 31 March 2014 22:37 (ten years ago) link
Everybody is.
Atheist btw, from europe.
― fauxpas cola (darraghmac), Monday, 31 March 2014 22:39 (ten years ago) link
Silly human race
― nitro-burning funny car (Moodles), Monday, 31 March 2014 22:41 (ten years ago) link
http://mute.com/wp-content/uploads/1995/09/mick-harvey-initials-bb-mute187-560x563.jpg
― soref, Monday, 31 March 2014 22:42 (ten years ago) link
"it started as what seemed an innocuous thread, but soon factions formed and alliances divided. televisions being chucked out into the street. people ripped from their homes. the first warheads were launched in the wee hours on Christmas Eve. It all ended with a big bang."
― Neanderthal, Monday, 31 March 2014 22:45 (ten years ago) link
I wonder whatever it is that you "take pride in" and how I can pour coruscating scorn on it.
― BLEEEEEEE Monday (Branwell Bell), Monday, March 31, 2014 3:13 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
tbrr you don't need any help on that front
― bi-polar uncle (its OK-he's dead) (Phil D.), Monday, 31 March 2014 22:51 (ten years ago) link
btw one of these options leads to the embarrassing "nobody in the UK has even HEARD of these 'Simpsons' you pulled last week."
― bi-polar uncle (its OK-he's dead) (Phil D.), Monday, 31 March 2014 22:56 (ten years ago) link
lol
― have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 00:13 (ten years ago) link
people have never asked me unsolicited, what I think of a particular television show, and never have, not even when I worked in an office with watercoolers and awkward small-talk. it's a myth... isn't it? or did I miss out?
Not a myth - more like a passenger pigeon or a dodo bird now. The last time someone asked me "so what did you think of xxxxxxx last night?" was the day after the Seinfeld finale.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 01:09 (ten years ago) link
I'm trying to figure out why this type of thing is so annoying. I think part of it is it fee is like the don't even watch a tv'er is sort of stuck in adolescence, still defining themselves by what they don't like instead of what they do like & feeling superior to the unenlightened when in actuality they might be just as shallow.
― Raptain Chillips (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 01:10 (ten years ago) link
I mean honestly that speaks to my problems overall with it. Anti-TV folk aren't a pet cause of mine, I just dislike anybody who proudly wears the shit they hate as a badge of honor. People who merely don't own televisions or tell me about it, who gives a shit...
there's one particular acquaintance of mine who makes it a habit daily to brag about what celebrities he hasn't heard of, what rap artists he's never heard music by, and how much he hates a certain movie (which changes by month). find that hella tedious
― Neanderthal, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 01:13 (ten years ago) link
Last year I started going to lunch with my coworkers because I wanted to be less of an antisocial jerk. About 75% of the conversation was about television. I still try to go with them once a week to keep up appearances, but I look for a quick excuse to head back to my desk when they start asking if anyone saw last night's Grey's Anatomy or whatever.
― how's life, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 01:27 (ten years ago) link
(I own a TV, but I mostly only watch whatever my kids are watching, which I guess is a version of "I don't even own a TV" but I'd love to watch Girls or Game of Thrones if I had HBO or whatever.)
― how's life, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 01:30 (ten years ago) link
That's what blu-rays and DVDs are for
― nitro-burning funny car (Moodles), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 01:31 (ten years ago) link
there's a friend of mine, a former co-worker that chats w/ me mostly about music and television shows when I logon to our chat system.
but I prefer to binge watch television so tehre's few shows we're ever both watching in real time.
― Neanderthal, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 01:54 (ten years ago) link
― Raptain Chillips (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, March 31, 2014 8:10 PM (50 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
because being ignorant is never good?
― goole, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 02:01 (ten years ago) link
I just dislike anybody who proudly wears the shit they hate as a badge of honor.
^^^^ this.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 02:28 (ten years ago) link
http://www.wornfree.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/650x626/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/k/u/kurt_cobain_corporate_magazine_suck_white.jpg
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 02:41 (ten years ago) link
calling things passé is out btw
― forum enthusiast (wins), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 05:47 (ten years ago) link
Hello and welcome to ilx u must be new here
― Corpsepaint Counterpaint (jjjusten), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 06:32 (ten years ago) link
/I just dislike anybody who proudly wears the shit they hate as a badge of honor./^^^^ this. --(The Other) J.D. (J.D.)
^^^^ this. --(The Other) J.D. (J.D.)
What about their hate of Fracking?
― cog, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 07:08 (ten years ago) link
_/I just dislike anybody who proudly wears the shit they hate as a badge of honor./^^^^ this. --(The Other) J.D. (J.D.)_
^^^^ this. --(The Other) J.D. (J.D.)_
What about fact you wear your disdain for these people as a badge of honor yourself?
― cog, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 07:10 (ten years ago) link
It's "Good Day to you, Sirs"
― mohel hell (Bob Six), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 07:21 (ten years ago) link
cog otm itt, "i don't even own a tv" is not usually something people say unbidden. it's usually a way of saying "i don't watch tv so this direction of conversation excludes me". obviously condescending snobs exist but this statement doesn't automatically make one a condescending snob.
i never really grew up in a tv-oriented house so never really got into the habit. fully acknowledge tv can be great but when i get into things i REALLY get into them so i find i don't have the time to commit to tv series - i can't just watch an episode here, an episode there, casual watching. i find that - with a few other things - you do come across people who seem almost offended that you don't conform to the habits and pastimes of 99% of people within "your" social demographic. "what do you mean, you don't practise the signifiers of the pop culture-consuming middle classes."
obviously i watch tennis on tv, if "crappy internet live stream" counts as a tv.
anyway i'm not a snob about tv as a medium but i am 100% a snob about this attitude:
Also the activity of Watching Television as in getting some snacks and just spending a few hours a night on the couch watching whatever the fuck came on.
― james franco tur(oll)ing test (Hurting 2), Monday, March 31, 2014 8:47 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i never realised until twitter how many people do this! they watch whatever, they seem to dislike it and they don't even seem to care about it. they just watch it because it's there. EVERY FUCKING NIGHT. i am baffled by and unashamedly contemptuous of this lifestyle. you should be into - really into, enthusiastic and excited about - your hobbies and your cultural consumption otherwise what is the actual point???
(video games are another matter. an appalling hobby in every respect.)
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 08:35 (ten years ago) link
Sorry, I'm still laughing at the ignorance and projection displayed in "Branwell must be a next-level puppet master because... (Branwell goes to bed during time zones that are night time in the UK)!!!"
― BLEEEEEEE Monday (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 08:38 (ten years ago) link
I half-agree, Lex, but I don't disdain watching TV as wallpaper, I just don't get it. I don't get video games either but how other people spend their time doesn't bother me. I know there are people who find it weird that I spend so much time on Twitter and ILX. I remember reading someone describe Robbie Williams' Angels as "a song that idiots want played at their funerals" and thought it was so gross and contemptuous that I vowed not to sneer at people for their cultural choices anymore. Or at least try not to. Culture has a utilitarian role as comfort and distraction and if someone finds it comforting to watch whatever's on TV when they get home from work as opposed to streaming True Detective or reading a novel then what's it to me?
― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 08:53 (ten years ago) link
yeah i acknowledge my snobbery about video games is nagl but allow me that one just because. i don't rescind anything about tv-as-wallpaper snobbery though. the sheer passivity of it combined with the visible dislike of what that passivity gets you, i don't know why it doesn't strike them as a terrible way to pass a life. don't get me wrong i am fully in favour of procrastination and useless time-wasting but at least that should be in service of something that actively enthuses you?
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 09:06 (ten years ago) link
I have a soft spot for full-on TV-as-wallpaper – like actually actively doing something else while it mutters in the background - & that's a function of my youth & always being around TV. It's a comfortable way for me to read quickly - happy memories of eg summer holiday, work through a reading list, Neighbours on in the background.
But I don't have a TV now. I slide too easily into just watching it. I think my logic is something like:
Reading + TV: okJust reading: okJust TV: uncomfortable with myself, but find it difficult to stop because I love you TV.
― woof, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 09:21 (ten years ago) link
I didn't really 'get' TV-as-wallpaper until i started working full-time. Getting home completely knackered after a stressful day at work isn't always particularly conducive to more active pursuits. I don't watch tonnes of TV but i don't begrudge anyone the habit of flopping on the sofa and consuming escapist entertainment.
― Yuri Bashment (ShariVari), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 09:49 (ten years ago) link
i don't even read this thread
― invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 09:51 (ten years ago) link
there is so much great tv out there. some shows are totally involving, beautifully directed, scripted and acted. it's daft to cut oneself off from all that greatness.
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 09:59 (ten years ago) link
at a party the other week someone in conversation mentioned a telly prog that was I imagine made before anyone at the party was born and one wee guy blurted out we don't actually own a tv!! looking feverishly at his girlfriend and sort of nodding involuntarily
― conrad, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 10:33 (ten years ago) link