New Apple Lust Objects for 2010 and onward

i recall that shit

Sudden flashbacks to when my job sent me around the trade show circuit: both Macworlds, Comdex, etc.

did you see any jobs keynotes? what were they like?

I'd already left that job by '94, but I did get to see a few Stevenotes around the critical 97-2001 era. My fave was WWDC 2000 - the intro of OS X dp4 with the new UI a few months after he became iCEO. When the reality distortion field was running at full power it was unstoppable. Even during moments of pure bulldada when he was trying to fob off the Motorola Rokr on us. We knew he was bullshitting us, but you just went along with it. The charisma was never Joe Cool Bill Clinton, but more like a Charlie Manson - you just believed.

The funeral for OS 9 was great.

"One more thing..." introduction of the G5 is also great. Introduction of the first iPhone is a master class in something...

oh god, the motorola rokr collaboration

I guess people wanted to listen to music on their phones, so this one syncs with iTunes, and it's... really... great

ah i wish i had been at any of those events, elvis.

"i'm sick of working with these stupid companies like motorola" - steve jobs (that quote should be close at least -- it's off the top of my head)

http://everystevejobsvideo.com has pretty much everything.

LOL at "premature specification" during G5 introduction... "I am here to tell you today that it was a mistake, and it's true"

i'm subscribed to that in feedbin iirc!

http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/digital-and-mobile/6042224/underwhelming-start-to-itunes-radio-lights-fire-under

I don't know why Apple would even consider doing anything subscription-based around music. Apple has failed at every subscription-based service going back to, uh, .Mac. I think they have to understand that, deep down, consumers feel like they're already paying Apple a ton of money and it's really hard to justify a subscription to anything Apple-related.

Aside from pockets of vinyl diehards, music is pretty much finished as a consumer commodity. The only solution would be to make all music in iTunes store free and on-demand, then generate revenue through ads, but YouTube pretty much got that already.

I think they have to understand that, deep down, consumers feel like they're already paying Apple a ton of money and it's really hard to justify a subscription to anything Apple-related.

I'm not sure this is a thing. People give money Apple for other things (eg downloads) if they're done well. The problem with Apple's web services is just that they haven't been done well. The world is shifting from downloads to streaming but it doesn't have to be free streaming (20% of Spotify users pay for premium service). I'm not especially optimistic Apple will get it right this time, but I don't think it's because people don't like giving Apple money. I agree that paid music is less of a thing than video these days but I don't think it's dead.

otm apple cloud stuff's almost always half baked

happy enough with itunes match though

icloud has been sufficiently useful for me.

icloud as a backup/restore strategy works well for me, and the photo accessibility similarly so

icloud as storage for application data is, as one ilxor put it, booty

im still annoyed that i get bugged about my icloud storage being almost full every time i plu gin my ipad

delete some old backups, man

why should i have to

it should really delete those for you :/

would like icloud to offer full iPhoto backup storage

yeah. for now dropbox does some interesting things.

they have that new carousel thing which i'd be a little hesitant to use until i was sure they wouldn't axe it a few months from now.

gonna put this here too to give it a little more chance of getting clicked on than it might get in the jobs thread itself: http://donmelton.com/2014/04/10/memories-of-steve/

i know slocki likes links.

there's a good story about a keynote practice in there.

mmm nice link.

heh

can i ask you guys what you do for contacts? icloud? gmail? something else?

icloud iirc

iCloud for contacts/calendar/tasks.

thanks. i should just pick one.

jeff, are you afraid of apple losing all your calendar data? ppl r right here, icloud isn't perfect

i feel like there's less chance google will do something stupid

I think the only thing I'd worry about with anything is an errant application/device screwing with your appointments. Other than that, everyone has reasonable servers and it's all the same calendar protocol.

Maybe a little, but it wouldn't be the end of the world. Worst case I suppose I could unplug and open iCal on my iMac to export the data that is cached there.

alright maybe i just need to be less paranoid.

worst case scenario you could just export your calendar to a file every once in a while

yeah that's not a terrible idea.

google's also much better about data portability. see: takeout. and then there was that steve jobs email that came out recently written in the exact oppositie spirit of the that kind of thing.

google had a really great program that'd two-way sync between google calendar and outlook. I used to run it on my work machine, since I didn't want to explicitly link my phone or home computer to my work calendar.

google killed it. program gone, support gone. people are really pissed, and I think a version of it is available if you pay for google apps for business.

I guess when I say "outlook" I mean "other outlook calendars" like my work exchange server.

sure but calendar, gmail, and contacts (as a necessary part of gmail) are more like core services. they're not knol or wave

or reader or

hah. buzz

you are right though that apple tends to kill less shit, at least on the services side. there was ping and, fuck, whatever their old school dropbox thing was. idrive? wikipedia tells me it was called idisk.

apple doesn't kill shit as much as birth stillborn projects

like passbook and the iphone 5c

no, those are relative successes!

what about:
- that iOS application that would make greeting cards
- Ping
- iWeb
- Front Row

probably a dozen others, but so ephemeral that they made an appearance on the web/OS X/iOS and disappeared less than six months later

i think some of that got folded into iphoto or iphoto had similar functionality. yeah, i never really used the last two.

they do that on purpose though when shit fails

well, yeah!