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probably a dozen others, but so ephemeral that they made an appearance on the web/OS X/iOS and disappeared less than six months later

a strange man (mh), Friday, 11 April 2014 20:05 (ten years ago) link

i think some of that got folded into iphoto or iphoto had similar functionality. yeah, i never really used the last two.

markers, Friday, 11 April 2014 20:06 (ten years ago) link

they do that on purpose though when shit fails

markers, Friday, 11 April 2014 20:06 (ten years ago) link

well, yeah!

a strange man (mh), Friday, 11 April 2014 20:07 (ten years ago) link

ping was a piece of shit though. it ran in itunes, for one, and the whole thing was around music you had to purchase. there's a reason why spotify's social stuff is way better

markers, Friday, 11 April 2014 20:08 (ten years ago) link

for one, you can actually fucking share music

markers, Friday, 11 April 2014 20:08 (ten years ago) link

I loved Front Row! It was one of those "whoooa this is a MAC?" programs when I first switched

Nhex, Friday, 11 April 2014 20:44 (ten years ago) link

Anyone have the external DVD burner?

calstars, Friday, 11 April 2014 20:45 (ten years ago) link

Sherlock

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 11 April 2014 21:04 (ten years ago) link

omg sherlock

a strange man (mh), Friday, 11 April 2014 21:15 (ten years ago) link

you can search.... everything!

a strange man (mh), Friday, 11 April 2014 21:16 (ten years ago) link

it was pretty awesome for movies, at least in NYC

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 11 April 2014 21:27 (ten years ago) link

Wish there were lust objects in the sub- $2000 area

calstars, Friday, 11 April 2014 21:28 (ten years ago) link

I'm moving from an iMac at home and at work to one MBP that will travel between the two.

Two questions:
1) is a Thunderbolt dock the way to go for docking/peripherals - in both places I'll have a trackball, keyboard, speakers, external HD, Dymo label printer and either a scanner or barcode scanner.

2) For anyone who uses Adobe Lightroom - have you run into any issues with having a library where the files are stored on a HD that will be left in one place and another library for a HD left at another (ie I have to have my personal library on a HD at home, then I'll keep any work related photos on another at the office)?

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Sunday, 13 April 2014 18:56 (ten years ago) link

There might be a key you can press while starting up Lightroom that lets you choose the library? That's how it works for Aperture

, Sunday, 13 April 2014 23:57 (ten years ago) link

is a Thunderbolt dock the way to go for docking/peripherals - in both places I'll have a trackball, keyboard, speakers, external HD, Dymo label printer and either a scanner or barcode scanner.

Are you planning on using an external monitor at some point? I know that Apple's thunderbolt monitor has a couple extra t-bolt and USB ports on the back - might save you going with a dock. That Belkin dock looks cool, but admittedly I'm old fashioned in my belief to not mix interfaces: keep USB's on USBs, etc.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 14 April 2014 09:24 (ten years ago) link

Anyone have the external DVD burner?

*raises hand* I broke down and bought one when my old MacBook Pro (which I was keeping around because it has a DVD-R) became too unreliable. I still have an unsettling number of DVD-Rs that I need to archive and dehoard.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 14 April 2014 09:28 (ten years ago) link

Thunderbolt has so much bandwidth, a few usbs aren't going to trouble it. (USB3 possibly excepted)

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 14 April 2014 09:30 (ten years ago) link

Lightroom is supposed to be handle a single library with files stored on different external volumes. It shows you previews of pix that aren't currently available, and even allows you to make some modifications to them. I've only tried it a bit, but it seems pretty good.

stet, Monday, 14 April 2014 12:29 (ten years ago) link

anyone think aperture will get updated sometime this decade?

a strange man (mh), Monday, 14 April 2014 13:45 (ten years ago) link

No.

Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Monday, 14 April 2014 14:53 (ten years ago) link

Lightroom for iPad is also pretty great. The only thing Aperture has going for it now is Photo Streams and iCloud Photos integration, and that's not much (though they are also pretty good, tbf)

stet, Monday, 14 April 2014 15:08 (ten years ago) link

how much do you guys think the iwatch will be? i have no idea. somewhere between $150 and $300 probably? i bet you it's bluetooth 4.0 & has no wireless (3g/4g) capability

markers, Monday, 14 April 2014 16:35 (ten years ago) link

there's zero chance this thing isn't happening. if you doubt it at this point, you're wrong. i'd put some money on that if i had any.

markers, Monday, 14 April 2014 16:36 (ten years ago) link

the other big question is whether or not it's gonna be a dev platform, and i think out of the gate, at least, it'll be locked down like the ipod. since it's running ios, they could open it up later, but i don't think that's in the cards for the first generation.

markers, Monday, 14 April 2014 16:36 (ten years ago) link

and yes i'll probably be buying one of them, even though i currently don't wear any accessories beyond my glasses and i don't give a shit about watches.

markers, Monday, 14 April 2014 16:37 (ten years ago) link

I'm really curious to see what will differentiate it from the smartwatches that have already beaten it to market

Nhex, Monday, 14 April 2014 16:39 (ten years ago) link

it's comprehensiveness in the health area, i think

markers, Monday, 14 April 2014 16:40 (ten years ago) link

i've seen it described as "sensor-laden"

markers, Monday, 14 April 2014 16:41 (ten years ago) link

like, think about that and look at what mark gurman's learned about healthbook. that app is gonna be able to organize info about a bunch of aspects of your health. what if the iwatch was able to monitor not only sleep but blood glucose levels and a bunch of other things

markers, Monday, 14 April 2014 16:42 (ten years ago) link

let me find that tim cook clip from last year's allthingsd conference

markers, Monday, 14 April 2014 16:43 (ten years ago) link

from the man himself: http://bit.ly/1hF0nuV

markers, Monday, 14 April 2014 16:46 (ten years ago) link

well, and walt mossberg

markers, Monday, 14 April 2014 16:46 (ten years ago) link

anyone think aperture will get updated sometime this decade?

The only Internet April Fools joke I fell for this year was also the cruelest: http://theapertureblog.com/2014/04/01/apple-finally-releases-aperture-x/

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 14 April 2014 23:42 (ten years ago) link

i dont think theyll be an iwatch, or at least i dont think it will be a watch, or like an iphone on your wrist, there may be something that goes around your wrist, if they make something thats like a watch and a phone thats when you know theyve lost it, all in all tho i dont think people really want to wear these wearables, like sure they cld do lots of cool things but are they cool things people actually want to do

lag∞n, Monday, 14 April 2014 23:44 (ten years ago) link

there may be something that goes around your wrist

this is 100% happening. no question. see mark gurman's reporting: http://9to5mac.com/author/markgurman/

http://9to5mac.com/2014/02/07/from-fashion-to-fitness-the-experts-behind-apples-wearable-future/

markers, Monday, 14 April 2014 23:47 (ten years ago) link

if they make something thats like a watch and a phone

i doubt it will be a phone. i think it'll be a peripheral to an iphone. think of it like an old school ipod to a mac. apple's not afraid of making non-standalone devices.

markers, Monday, 14 April 2014 23:48 (ten years ago) link

the only way they'd make it both was if they thought somehow this was gonna be the thing that disrupted (forgive me) the iphone, and it doesn't look like that's gonna happen. like, it won't.

markers, Monday, 14 April 2014 23:49 (ten years ago) link

that being said, of course this could still tank, which would be bad for tim cook even if it perhaps wouldn't effect apple too too much since they'd still be churning out new ipads and iphones

markers, Monday, 14 April 2014 23:49 (ten years ago) link

the only thing a watch wld be good for is sensors like fitbit, like obvs especially if its a peripheral its useless for anything else when u can just pull yr phone out of yr pocket, and just because they hired a bunch of dudes and are working on something doesnt mean itll ever see the light of day

lag∞n, Monday, 14 April 2014 23:51 (ten years ago) link

but even a device like fitbit i think is only appealing to a p low % of the population, single digits, like people are supposed to be all into monitoring their vital signs when they cant even get their asses up to excersize once a week

lag∞n, Monday, 14 April 2014 23:53 (ten years ago) link

the only thing a watch wld be good for is sensors

tim cook directly talks about this in that link i posted above. also, i'm tellin' you it's gonna happen. i waste a lot of time on this shit and everything's pointing in that direction. he promised a new product category this year. there's no indication that anything else is ready for release except a revamped apple tv, and ppl r gonna be pissed if that's what he meant by a new category. (he didn't)

markers, Monday, 14 April 2014 23:53 (ten years ago) link

hockenberry's thing about how they might do a ring or whatever is wrong

markers, Monday, 14 April 2014 23:54 (ten years ago) link

there's no way

markers, Monday, 14 April 2014 23:54 (ten years ago) link

but even a device like fitbit i think is only appealing to a p low % of the population, single digits, like people are supposed to be all into monitoring their vital signs when they cant even get their asses up to excersize once a week

― lag∞n

you could be right here, although i think this will be far more advanced than any of the existing things on the market.

markers, Monday, 14 April 2014 23:56 (ten years ago) link

if they release some coney ass device where look u can check ur txts on it im divesting myself of all my imaginary apple stock

lag∞n, Monday, 14 April 2014 23:57 (ten years ago) link

markers, i dont believe you this isn't happening

IKEA metaballs (Spottie), Monday, 14 April 2014 23:57 (ten years ago) link

well check back later this year. latest rumors seem to indicate a september launch.

markers, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 00:00 (ten years ago) link

Never trust anything Mark Gurman or any other Mac rumor site posts

2013 Rumor Retrospective: 'All the leaks were...'

I've been writing Rumor Roundups for nearly two years now. In all that time, only two writers from sites featured in the Roundup have ever contacted me directly:

In mid-2012, Rene Ritchie of iMore contacted me once to (correctly) point out a regrettable inaccuracy I'd written about one of his site's claims.
Several times over the past few months, Mark Gurman of 9to5 Mac has contacted me via Twitter, and each time he contacts me his behavior becomes more and more... "erratic" is probably the polite way to put it.
On December 19, 9to5 Mac posted a 2013 retrospective patting themselves on the back for their supposed accuracy in the field of Apple rumors. "All the leaks were right," their article claimed. This was an intriguing claim to make, as 9to5 Mac takes the same "throw everything against the wall and see what sticks" approach to rumors as almost every other Apple site out there, and as a result they inevitably post heaps of wildly inaccurate information about Apple's supposed future plans.

When I dared to point out that 9to5 Mac deliberately ignored the dozens of inaccurate stories that it posted during 2013, Mark Gurman challenged me to prove it. I was at the beach in Mount Maunganui, New Zealand when Gurman first contacted me on Twitter. I ignored him at first, but barely two hours later he insisted that I provide him with a list of inaccurate links. I was still at the beach. Sometimes, the real world takes precedence. I assured him I'd get to it in due time.

Naturally, because this is the internet, this was soon followed by a handful of 9to5 Mac readers taunting and harassing me on Twitter. One of them even made a veiled threat about it not being a good idea to "pick a fight" with "9to5 Warriors" because "we don't get much sleep, you know."

Regrettably, I was too busy laughing my ass off to be properly intimidated. But it did provide me with the motivation to do a deep dive into 9to5 Mac's vaunted accuracy - as did Gurman once again prodding me (in a tweet he's since deleted), days after his initial challenge, to provide a list of inaccurate claims his site had made (or passed on).

There is an old Vulcan proverb: "Be careful what you ask for. You may get it."

I examined all of 9to5 Mac's articles between January 1 and December 28 2013. This was 326 pages of content, at 6 articles per page, for a total of 1956 articles.

The tl;dr summary of 9to5 Mac's 2013 track record:

73 rumor articles turned out to be true, and 30 of those were derived from their original sources
91 rumor articles turned out to be either partially or entirely inaccurate, or else completely unverifiable
That gives them an overall accuracy record of just under 45 percent. You'd do better by flipping a coin.

In 2013, 9to5 Mac posted a total of 164 articles that were either purely rumors or else speculative posts based on rumors. This was lower than I expected, accounting for only about 8.4 percent of all articles on their site.

9to5 Mac posted an impressively high 73 rumor articles that turned out to be entirely true, and this included all of the articles derived from their own original sources-a truly impressive and commendable 30 articles in total. 9to5 Mac absolutely does have someone inside Apple (probably several someones) feeding them accurate information.

If that were the whole story, then it'd be time for me to shut up and retire. Unfortunately, 9to5 Mac isn't content to stick with its own trusted sources, and it takes the same "shotgun" approach as everyone else by posting idiotic analyst speculation and Digitimes-derived BS with only occasional nods in the general direction of skepticism.

Let me be perfectly clear: I take no issue whatsoever with 9to5 Mac's reporting of rumors derived from its own original sources. They obviously work hard to get this information, and it almost always turns out to be either wholly or substantially accurate. The problem is, it's hard to sort out these diamonds from the piles of typical "telephone game" nonsense Apple rumors they're buried in.

If 9to5 Mac stuck to reporting only its own, originally-sourced rumors-and if they could rein in the more *ahem* enthusiastic members of their staff-they could easily be the undisputed go-to bastion of all Apple rumors. Sadly, that ain't so.

I wasn't feeling particularly charitable in my analysis of 9to5 Mac's track record (for some strange reason). Therefore, for any story that wasn't derived from their own sources (a "re-reported" article, in other words) or any purely speculative posts, if any detail was ultimately incorrect or simply unverifiable, I counted the entire article as inaccurate.

In 2013, 9to5 Mac posted 91 stories that were either partially or wholly inaccurate. Almost all of them were sourced from analysts, Digitimes, or some other typically unreliable source.

Analysis of 9to5 Mac's record over 2013 provided some interesting insights into the state of Apple rumors as a whole. Predictably, the farther away we are from the date of an Apple event, the less likely a rumor is to be proven true. Photos of hardware, deep dives into software, and leaks derived from original sources almost always bear fruit; re-blogging of analyst speculation and the latest tripe from Digitimes and other "supply chain sources" almost never does. And despite claims that Ming-Chi Kuo is a "typically accurate" Apple analyst, his track record in 2013 is almost the same as 9to5 Mac's; in other words, approximately half of Kuo's predictions ultimately turn out to be either partially or substantially incorrect.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 00:16 (ten years ago) link


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