I think reading the books before watching the show is probably not the best way to appreciate the show.
― calstars, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 18:37 (ten years ago) link
Martin is some kind of master of pulling off contradictory feelings in his readers of "nothing is happening / everything is happening."
― calstars, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 18:38 (ten years ago) link
He settled on "Widow's Wail", didn't he? Something like that anyway.
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 18:39 (ten years ago) link
choked on pigeon's pie? murder most fowl ; )
― am0n, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 18:58 (ten years ago) link
When someone shouted "stormbringer" to name the sword, surely that was a Moorcock/Elric reference? I can't recall the other suggested names. --Robert Adam Gilmour
GRRM wrote this ep so my money's on yes
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 19:27 (ten years ago) link
He settled on "Widow's Wail", didn't he?
And then the episode ended with one
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 19:29 (ten years ago) link
http://junkee.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/JoffreyClap.gif
― sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 19:33 (ten years ago) link
Terminus might be the coolest name for a sword I've ever heard. I assume those references weren't in the book. I'm generally not fond of fannish references but somehow I didn't mind it in the show.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 23:18 (ten years ago) link
It's "Terminus Est" to be precise
― Number None, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 23:23 (ten years ago) link
they have latin in Westeros?
I hate this show sometimes
― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 23:26 (ten years ago) link
I mean, the season thing makes no sense fr instance
oh wait you were referring to Wolfe. dude's a whole different ballgame from Martin imho
― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 23:27 (ten years ago) link
yeah I guess in the Game of Thrones universe it's just some drunk guy screaming gobbledygook
― Number None, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 23:29 (ten years ago) link
entire season just jaime chasing after those sneaky icelandic villains
sigur ros are white walkers iirc
― hug niceman (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 23:33 (ten years ago) link
white wankers more like
― balls, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 23:40 (ten years ago) link
my greatsword U DAED
― sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 23:45 (ten years ago) link
I call mine STABBY
― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 23:48 (ten years ago) link
They speak English, which is influenced by latin
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 23:50 (ten years ago) link
anyhow as someone who knows whodunit i thought they did a good job of being honest enough about who actually dunit while at the same time providing plenty of red herrings
― balls, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 23:51 (ten years ago) link
― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, April 15, 2014 7:26 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
its magical fwiw
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 00:46 (ten years ago) link
Latin is also magical fwiw
― 龜, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 00:51 (ten years ago) link
otmious
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 00:53 (ten years ago) link
it's magical! "fwiwiwiwiwiwiwiwiwiwiw"
― flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 00:57 (ten years ago) link
also these fuckn dragons amirite? i mean COME ON
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 01:11 (ten years ago) link
You can do some hand wavey stuff about dragons and magic and I wont mind too much. When u posit that a world with irregular seasons would still have regular plants and animals as we know them I think you're just being stupid. Maybe this is handled more explicitly in the books or something.
― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 01:26 (ten years ago) link
Shakey Mo Collier Draws Line In Sand
― 龜, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 01:29 (ten years ago) link
i'll permit this much magic but not a drop more
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 01:47 (ten years ago) link
For all we know in the "real" version of the world that the show portrays everyone is a ten foot tall amoeboid creature that speaks in hormones, but it's all translated back into a understandable form to us.
― Quinoa Phoenix (latebloomer), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 02:33 (ten years ago) link
Sorry, shouldn't have spoiled the ending of book seven like that.
― Quinoa Phoenix (latebloomer), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 02:35 (ten years ago) link
unrelated, but I noticed with some amusment that margery's wedding dress was the least booby thing she's worn in the entire show
Yeah, I hated it.
Guh, I interpreted that as "Widow's Whale," and I've bloody read the books.
― Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 04:59 (ten years ago) link
Widow's whale tail
― 龜, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 05:08 (ten years ago) link
I think what is mostly bothering me about the irregular seasons is that everyone knows that winter is coming, and yet they are all using their resources on these bullshit wars. So the populace should have realized they will all probably starve to death, and should be in an uproar, but they're all so passive.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 12:17 (ten years ago) link
I think only the old heads remember what the last winter is like
It's like as far away as WWII
― 龜, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 12:22 (ten years ago) link
so totally unrealistic that the nation would waste its time + resources on bullshit wars instead of imminent climate disaster
― Mordy , Wednesday, 16 April 2014 12:25 (ten years ago) link
Nothing like a good bullshit war to keep populations passive.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 12:25 (ten years ago) link
Maybe the root material cause for the war was the failure of the houses to adequately prepare for averting starvation during the long winter, forcing them to shift at the last minute into pillage mode, also to try to grab what they could of Westeros's temperate regions.
― jmm, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 12:41 (ten years ago) link
So the Stark House's motto is 'Winter Is Coming', which is a pretty sensible, albeit glass-half-empty slogan. Do they change it during winter to 'Summer Is Coming'?
― 1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 14:02 (ten years ago) link
Winter Was Coming
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 14:09 (ten years ago) link
"Winter Came"
― djenter the dragon? (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 14:12 (ten years ago) link
New slogan: everyone gets $600 back on their taxes
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 14:12 (ten years ago) link
LOL!
― schwantz, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 16:42 (ten years ago) link
everyone knows that winter is coming, and yet they are all using their resources on these bullshit wars. So the populace should have realized they will all probably starve to death, and should be in an uproar, but they're all so passive.
imagine!
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 17:05 (ten years ago) link
oh mordy did already carry on
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 17:06 (ten years ago) link
you have to remember that there is a well-funded group that has a financial interest in suggesting that Winter is NOT coming, reminding everyone that Winter has come and gone in cycles for hundreds of millions of years, that the citizens of Westeros have nothing to do with it and should not worry about it at all.
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 17:08 (ten years ago) link
Lannisters == Kochs? (Pity that the Kraken sigil belongs to the Greyjoys.)
― Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 17:09 (ten years ago) link
Wasn't there something like the old age of magic caused the seasonal irregularities?
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 17:14 (ten years ago) link
I was under the impression that the winter isn't as bad in all parts of Westeros. Dorn stays warm all the time right?
― mizzell, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 17:36 (ten years ago) link
"the florida of westeros"
― sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 17:36 (ten years ago) link
In the 1970s National Geographic used to run articles about how Summer was coming
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 17:42 (ten years ago) link
I imagine Dorne is like Southern Italy climate wise, ie gets a bit cold and grey but not really.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 20:06 (ten years ago) link