why would this be "the cruelest aspect of being a federal inmate"? you can look out the bus; you shouldn't feel so claustrophobic as you would in, say, an isolation chamber, and you would feel safe, since guards would observe you at all times. you probably couldn't sleep very well, and you'd definitely get sick of sitting, and maybe be physically harmed by so much sitting; not sure how those things compare to conditions in a general-population area of prison.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 16:18 (ten years ago) link
you're kidding, right?
― idontknowanythingabouttechnlolgeez (waterface), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 16:21 (ten years ago) link
just some light wikipedia reading
PITT* has eluded systematic study by police researchers who heretoforehave been interested in studying more visible police behaviors (such asarrest and use of force). Although overlooked, it is a serious, extralegalpolice action that has resulted in lawsuits and the death of dumpees.
*i.e. Diesel therapy
― idontknowanythingabouttechnlolgeez (waterface), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 16:22 (ten years ago) link
no, i wasn't kidding. i just didn't understand how bad a practice it is compared to prison-life generally.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 16:59 (ten years ago) link
A rule of thumb that I think applies and that I just made up is that if there is an opportunity for prison officials to behave in a reasonable, humane manner, they usually won't.
― Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 17:11 (ten years ago) link
My very limited anecdotal women's-prison knowledge comes from some interviews I did with a few young women serving life w/o parole sentences for their roles in a particularly horrible carjack-murder case. They had been locked up for a few years at the point I talked to them, and they didn't have any major complaints with prison per se. One of them told me she was the happiest she had ever been in her life -- since being convicted, she had come out as gay and now had a girlfriend who was also her cellmate, and was working in the prison hair salon. Granted, "happiest she'd ever been" was a low bar for her -- she'd grown up basically ignored by her mother and raped by her step-father (who went to prison himself on that charge), and she was only about 18 when she was arrested. Granted also, she was two years into a life sentence, and I don't think she really grasped or believed that she was never getting out. Still, nothing I heard from them makes OITNB seem all that far-fetched.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 17:14 (ten years ago) link
Diesel therapy is mentioned in the OITNB book. transferring to a new location sounds rly awful. and yeah, prison differs greatly depending on where it is and why people are there acc to OITNB book.
― JuliaA, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 18:31 (ten years ago) link
my apologies. i didn't get it before, but i do now the article notes that, "(o)n the surface it sounds benign. What could be the problem with making a prisoner ride in a bus for hours at a time?" but find out, by reading the excerpt. it's graphic and terrible.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 19:35 (ten years ago) link
cool
― idontknowanythingabouttechnlolgeez (waterface), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 19:44 (ten years ago) link
opening scene from season two.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 20:31 (ten years ago) link
Ooh, S3 already a go! http://www.imdb.com/news/ni57154350/
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 5 May 2014 22:36 (ten years ago) link
laura prepon, givin' away storylines ("#oitnb#alexvause#backtothebighouse").
OITNB making me strongly consider subscribing to netflix streaming service.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Monday, 5 May 2014 22:43 (ten years ago) link
Do it already!
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 5 May 2014 22:44 (ten years ago) link
You'd find out why Piper has gone all BA Baracus for season 2, since the season 1 finale shows you why.
― Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Monday, 5 May 2014 22:48 (ten years ago) link
i know why, but i want to see the whole story! even the split-second of that scene didn't make piper seem tough.
over on the netflix recommendation thread, scott seward posted a youtube clip of a full episode (or more!) of another netflix in-prison original program, called jailbait. it looked even more grim and grittier; i got through about 20 minutes of it before i felt claustrophobic from the whole "you're trapped in prison for a long time" vibe.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Monday, 5 May 2014 23:11 (ten years ago) link
(maybe piper did seem tough in that scene, but i didn't see all of it. gotta get netflix)
― Daniel, Esq 2, Monday, 5 May 2014 23:12 (ten years ago) link
he really said this?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmwkwHoCYAAxy75.jpg
if so, lol.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Monday, 5 May 2014 23:16 (ten years ago) link
daniel esq the amount of enthusiastic and analytical posting you've done on a thread dedicated to a show you've never actually watched is one of the weirdest things i've ever seen on ilx
wether it's a bizzaro trolling effort or not, i'm into it
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Monday, 5 May 2014 23:45 (ten years ago) link
ty
― Daniel, Esq 2, Monday, 5 May 2014 23:46 (ten years ago) link
it's performance-art, really.
keep it up!
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Monday, 5 May 2014 23:47 (ten years ago) link
One of my friends has been running a tumblr posting OITNB stills with Madonna lyrics on top of them. Orange Is the New True Blue
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 5 June 2014 16:08 (ten years ago) link
S2 released tomorrow, right?
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Thursday, 5 June 2014 18:12 (ten years ago) link
YES!!
― Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Thursday, 5 June 2014 18:13 (ten years ago) link
the animal the animal
― Khamma chameleon (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 5 June 2014 18:45 (ten years ago) link
so tempted to play hooky from work
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 5 June 2014 18:50 (ten years ago) link
So I guess you ended up getting Netflix and watching S1?
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 5 June 2014 18:51 (ten years ago) link
oh nm, that was Daniel, Esq 2
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 5 June 2014 18:52 (ten years ago) link
Nee-anderthal, nee-anderthal, trapped trapped trapped till the cave is full.
― Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:18 (ten years ago) link
lol
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:21 (ten years ago) link
fingers crossed for new opening credit music
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:37 (ten years ago) link
^ this
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:39 (ten years ago) link
they'll do it like the wire and it will be amanda palmer's version of the same song
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:42 (ten years ago) link
This site sez season 2 is released in 4 hours... that can't be right? Are they going by GMT?
― Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:53 (ten years ago) link
I mean, is it getting released at 12:00AM GMT?
― Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:54 (ten years ago) link
if that is true, my understudy is going on tonight. I mean I don't have one but y'know they'll figure something out. What is important is that I know what happens before everybody else.
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:55 (ten years ago) link
That's probably just someone in GMT counting down until June 6 arrives.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:57 (ten years ago) link
yeah there's a countdown on netflix, it's in approximately 11 hours. whether they have it set up different times by time zone i don't know but i could totally see them making it midnight west coast time, so after last call here.
― balls, Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:02 (ten years ago) link
Ah thanks.
― Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:03 (ten years ago) link
http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-06/4/11/enhanced/webdr06/anigif_enhanced-18205-1401897196-18.gif
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:19 (ten years ago) link
♥
― Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:22 (ten years ago) link
just watched first ep. oh piper.
― it's about equality, ladies (reddening), Friday, 6 June 2014 08:40 (ten years ago) link
nnnhhgghh I have to wait for GOT and 24 to finish before I switch from Sky to Netflix and watch this + House of Cards.
― kinder, Friday, 6 June 2014 08:46 (ten years ago) link
very lukewarm review from the nyt.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 6 June 2014 20:43 (ten years ago) link
idk that seemed a little more positive than 'lukewarm' to me
― Neanderthal, Friday, 6 June 2014 20:49 (ten years ago) link
Variety also more or less called it a comedown.
― Cronk's Not Cronk (Eric H.), Friday, 6 June 2014 20:57 (ten years ago) link
interesting to me that much of the nyt's criticism is that the show presents a sanitized/suitable for tv-face on the prison experience, when many people -- here and in articles assessing the show -- say it's fairly accurate (for at least some prisons).
― Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 6 June 2014 21:13 (ten years ago) link
Tasty is still my fave
― a strange man (mh), Saturday, 7 June 2014 03:13 (ten years ago) link
three episodes in. i know it's cliche to diss on piper, but episode 2 without her was a straight-up delight. they kinda lampshaded her role in the show when natasha lyonne made that crack about her thinking she was the star of everyone's movie, but ughhh i just find her so aggressively boring.
loved the little girls they got to play young taystee and young suzanne, and the casting of the little girls at the slumber party with suzanne blew my mind: they were like delicate, bitchy songbirds, so tiny and high-pitched.
― it's about equality, ladies (reddening), Saturday, 7 June 2014 09:28 (ten years ago) link
Just finished episode 2. I don't think I have it in me to binge for 13 hours this weekend, but I'll probably be done by mid-week. Agree that the little girl who was cast for young Taystee was an amazing choice.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 7 June 2014 21:29 (ten years ago) link