oh no! douchebags who either engineered or enabled our current economic shitpile and fancy themselves modern-day John Galts are going on a "brain strike"!! OH NO!!!
― LOLBJ (Eisbaer), Saturday, 7 March 2009 15:54 (fifteen years ago) link
― qpl, Saturday, 7 March 2009 16:50 (fifteen years ago) link
She looks like Greenspan with a wig.
― Goth As A Moth (Bimble), Saturday, 7 March 2009 20:10 (fifteen years ago) link
Well, she DOES have a sense of humor (not really exhibited in her books unfortunately) -- and lol @ how she loves "charlie's angels" and how much she sounds like Alan Alda or David Van Driessen re how "real men" should not suppress their feelings.
― LOLBJ (Eisbaer), Saturday, 7 March 2009 20:30 (fifteen years ago) link
Who cares if Atlas shrugs now? He's already dropped the planet.
― M.V., Sunday, 8 March 2009 03:19 (fifteen years ago) link
Can you say "conservative cunts" boys and girls? I knew you could!
― Goth As A Moth (Bimble), Sunday, 8 March 2009 03:37 (fifteen years ago) link
Ayn Rand's zombie presence makes perfect sense. Indeed, her lit cred, thoroughly middlebrow and thus utterly American, lends her capitalist fantasies some theoretical weight. Rand fancied herself as high-minded, an intellectual counterbalance to Karl Marx. In truth, Rand was closer to Walt Disney, minus the Mouse King's showbiz flair. Each used cartoons to convey their message. Both were dedicated anti-communists, hostile to organized labor, friendly to the post-war Red Scare. Only Rand felt that the U.S. government wasn't going deep enough in uprooting commies, primarily those in Hollywood, hypnotizing Middle America with phony smiles and pretty songs while undermining free enterprise and its besieged supporters....
Heller also note(s) that Rand considered the dollar sign "a better symbol than the cross, because it didn't require the sacrifice of anybody." I trust that Heller doesn't share this ahistorical view. Not only have the cross and dollar enjoyed a lucrative, long-running alliance, the dollar requires massive sacrifice across the planet. Poverty, starvation, environmental damage and genocidal violence are some of the dollar's greatest hits. Use any calculator you like to tally the body count under state socialism, and it'll explode when computing the ongoing ravages of global capitalism.
http://dennisperrin.blogspot.com/2009/11/atlas-insolvent.html
― Your Favorite Saturday Night Thing (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link
Indeed, her lit cred
what??????????????????? she has no lit cred.
― TGAAPQ (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link
w/ people who buy books, and biographers, apparently
― Your Favorite Saturday Night Thing (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 19:39 (fourteen years ago) link
shooting fish in a barrel
― TGAAPQ (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 19:40 (fourteen years ago) link
thoroughly middlebrow and thus utterly American,
stfu
― iatee, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link
xp It would be a better world if that fact was as obvious to everyone as it is to us.
― tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 19:43 (fourteen years ago) link
I enjoyed the piece in slate from a couple days ago: http://www.facebook.com/fluxion23?ref=profile
― tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link
um
― TGAAPQ (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 19:45 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh. Sorry.
http://www.slate.com/id/2233966
― tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 19:46 (fourteen years ago) link
ah
― TGAAPQ (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 19:47 (fourteen years ago) link
She looks like Greenspan with a wig.― Goth As A Moth (Bimble)
― Goth As A Moth (Bimble)
Perfect.
― tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link
comparing ayn rand to walt disney is an obscene insult to disney.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link
I like the comparison in the Slate story much better -- to L. Ron Hubbard.
― tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 21:33 (fourteen years ago) link
Slate's latest batch of philosophy essays have been...highly variable, like this ludicrous Hannah Arendt piece
― I yanked that sucker hard, and work it did. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 21:34 (fourteen years ago) link
alfred that link just goes to a big list of ron rosenbaum articles for me
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link
Whoops: http://www.slate.com/id/2234010/
― I yanked that sucker hard, and work it did. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link
Glad I'm not the only one. :)
― tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 21:48 (fourteen years ago) link
The banality of Ron Rosenbaum
― uninspired girls rejoice!!! (Hoot Smalley), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 21:52 (fourteen years ago) link
You're right, that article is horrible.
― Drag Me to Hull (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 21:52 (fourteen years ago) link
"Internalizing" lol
― I yanked that sucker hard, and work it did. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 21:52 (fourteen years ago) link
The banality of Latinates.
― I yanked that sucker hard, and work it did. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 21:53 (fourteen years ago) link
atlas shrugged was boring
― plaks (I know, right?), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 21:53 (fourteen years ago) link
also kindof offensive
"lit cred" = high schoolers read Anthem and so think Ayn Rand is Serious Literature.
― But no hope for norwegian posters, sorry. (Curt1s Stephens), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link
the arendt piece is one of the worst things i've ever read on slate. incredibly ignorant and hysterical. has rosenbaum always been an idiot?
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 21:57 (fourteen years ago) link
The tone most offends me -- the smug assurance with which he thinks we'll agree that the banality of evil is a hackneyed phrase.
― I yanked that sucker hard, and work it did. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 21:58 (fourteen years ago) link
especially because his own idea of what evil actually is (bad people apparently ALWAYS know what they're doing, and revel in the fact of their evilness) is so laughable.
i get the sense that most of the people who criticize arendt's calling eichmann "banal" haven't even read that book. she hardly lets him off the hook.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 22:01 (fourteen years ago) link
And she endorses the death penalty for him!
― I yanked that sucker hard, and work it did. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 22:02 (fourteen years ago) link
In fact, the imaginary judgment she wrote for the prosecutor is the best case for a one-shot application of the death penalty I've ever read.
― I yanked that sucker hard, and work it did. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link
My understanding of "the banality of evil" is that it refers more to the collusion of millions of otherwise apparently mundane civilians than it does to the actions of ideologues and high-ranking Party officials.
― Drag Me to Hull (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link
ron rosenbaum is a maroon
― Bobby Wo (max), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 22:09 (fourteen years ago) link
Yes, true, and also: Eichmann the family man didn't act like Conrad Veidt.
I'm all for intelligent criticism of The Origin of Totalitarianism, whose first third splinters into discrete chunks that don't really advance her theses yet if treated as such make for fascinating reading. Rosenbaum doesn't have time for it.
― I yanked that sucker hard, and work it did. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 22:12 (fourteen years ago) link
as far as i can tell this is his argument
1) i, ron rosenbaum, hate the phrase "the banality of evil"2) luckily, no one will use the phrase "the banality of evil" any longer because people have recently pointed out that hannah arendt uses anti-semitic sources in her work3) therefore, hannah arendt is a self-hating jew4) hannah arendt is a self-hating jew because she was in love with martin heidegger5) martin heidegger was a nazi through and through and there is absolutely nothing of value in his philosophy6) i know there is nothing of value in his philosophy because a) i didn't understand and b) internet commenters at the chronicle for higher education website didnt explain it
― Bobby Wo (max), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 22:15 (fourteen years ago) link
7) How on earth could Arendt have fallen in love with an unrepentant Nazi?
― I yanked that sucker hard, and work it did. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 22:16 (fourteen years ago) link
I feel like this bit is the crucial sub-text:
It's a concept that has great relevance right now because there are still those who don't understand how theocratic police states can be called "fascist." Duh! It's because they're totalitarian. Whatever religion they profess, what they share with past fascist regimes is greater—in terms of denial of human rights—than what separates them. Just as political regimes adopt religious-type totalist worship of the state or the leader to enforce their oppression, religious or theocratic regimes adopt political oppression to enforce their orthodoxies.
The whole piece isn't really about Arendt or Nazi Germany but about Iran and whoever else is in this year's Axis of Evil, and Rosenbaum is arguing for a hawkish US stance because you can't negotiate with Fascists.
― Drag Me to Hull (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 22:18 (fourteen years ago) link
h8 this ho
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 22:19 (fourteen years ago) link
"Just as political regimes adopt religious-type totalist worship of the state or the leader to enforce their oppression, religious or theocratic regimes adopt political oppression to enforce their orthodoxies." Wtf does the "just as" mean here?
― uninspired girls rejoice!!! (Hoot Smalley), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 22:23 (fourteen years ago) link
and ALL regimes are "political."
― I yanked that sucker hard, and work it did. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 22:24 (fourteen years ago) link
that essay...
― jØrdån (omar little), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 22:48 (fourteen years ago) link
saw a documentary once bout arendt and heidegger's relationship, was pretty okay, like there was some cool "brief encounter" lookin re-enactments and a shitload of speculation like "arendt was prolly conflicted"
― plaques (I know, right?), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 22:49 (fourteen years ago) link
Come on, peopleOooh, so daring!Duh!
― jØrdån (omar little), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 22:50 (fourteen years ago) link
http://timothyzhu.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/bill_cosby1.jpgCome on people!
― uninspired girls rejoice!!! (Hoot Smalley), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link
wake up, sheeple!
― jØrdån (omar little), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 22:56 (fourteen years ago) link
THE NAME IS HARVEY. HARVEY WEE-WAX.
― I yanked that sucker hard, and work it did. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 22:57 (fourteen years ago) link