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Ooooooooooooooooh:

http://littletoller.co.uk/bookshop/new-books/home-country/

djh, Thursday, 22 May 2014 20:07 (ten years ago) link

So I'm really, really, really chuffed about this:

http://www.caughtbytheriver.net/2014/05/ghosts-of-the-great-north-wood-pt-1/

Still not entirely sure how that jump from "Nature Reader" to "Nature Writer" (or rather, Nature Illustrator) happened but I'm quite proud of this series!

Branwell with an N, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 16:38 (ten years ago) link

Nice one.

djh, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 17:30 (ten years ago) link

Thank you! (really really glad ILX doesn't have a "worst nature writing" thread haha)

Branwell with an N, Wednesday, 28 May 2014 08:58 (ten years ago) link

Finally reading HE Bates' "Through The Wood". Strangely feel like I'm reading the words without really caring what they say. Best chapter is about his aunt's pub. Contains a very good rant about pheasants, too: ... "precious tame pheasants who destiny in life it is to be cared for more tenderly than babies and to be massacred a little more brutally than most soldiers."

djh, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 19:17 (ten years ago) link

New Macfarlane, spring next year: "Landmarks".

djh, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 19:18 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, I saw the news about the new Macfarlane, and feel a bit of nervous trepidation about it, in terms of, how long is he going to keep being golden / how long before I get sick of that thing he does.

In other Nature Reader news, the good news is: Amy Liptrot has just signed with Canongate for her book, The Outrun. The bad news is: I don't think it's coming out until... 2016 or something? Eeep! I don't want to wait that long.

Branwell with an N, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 21:52 (ten years ago) link

I'd happily read a compiled/expanded version of her CBTR column:

http://www.caughtbytheriver.net/2012/03/curious-islands-life-on-orkney/

djh, Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:35 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Macfarlane

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jul/11/john-mullan-book-club-old-ways-robert-macfarlane

(Note that there is a chance to stalk him, Branwell, at the bottom of the article).

djh, Sunday, 13 July 2014 18:41 (nine years ago) link

Ha! The Guardian missed a trick. Instead of having him give a talk, they should have had him lead a walk. Mass trespass on ... somewhere. I'd have gone to that.

Branwell with an N, Monday, 14 July 2014 08:05 (nine years ago) link

Can you imagine Macfarlane leading a walk and everyone trying to be his best friend and/or have a Monbiot-style "man-off" with him?

djh, Monday, 14 July 2014 17:10 (nine years ago) link

Watching that, to be honest, would be half the fun!

Branwell with an N, Monday, 14 July 2014 17:40 (nine years ago) link

http://littletoller.co.uk/2014/07/the-ash-tree-by-oliver-rackham/

djh, Sunday, 20 July 2014 21:05 (nine years ago) link

Ooh, that looks good!

Branwell with an N, Sunday, 20 July 2014 21:41 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

More MacFarlane:

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/aug/01/robert-macfarlane-old-ways-book-club

djh, Monday, 4 August 2014 21:13 (nine years ago) link

Helen MacDonald's "H is for Hawk" is getting a lot of love, isn't it?

djh, Monday, 4 August 2014 21:15 (nine years ago) link

That Macfarlane, he turns up everywhere! he turned up in a chapter of Gossip From The Forest by Sara Maitland (which is also a good book if you like forests and fairy tales and is relevant to the interests of this thread*.)

*Though she gets points off for a couple of schoolboy errors about The Great North Wood, I'm sure her knowledge of Scottish forests is far better.

Branwell with an N, Monday, 4 August 2014 21:18 (nine years ago) link

But is there an *actually* concise, or better yet pocket one, suitable for taking with one on walks, in order to establish the difference between e.g. Borage, Bugloss and Green Alkanet while in the field? Because concise the Keble-Martin may be, but portable it is not!

don't know if you found one or not but all the marjorie blamey books are great. the one that really helped me was this...

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61ZHB1GKNVL.jpg

... though obviously the downside is that it's not that useful when the plant isn't in flower. sizewise, it's unfortunately a bit too big for most pockets, but it is slim enough to slip in yr bag

john wahey (NickB), Monday, 4 August 2014 22:07 (nine years ago) link

woah wait up - congrats on yr cbtr thing! looks great

john wahey (NickB), Monday, 4 August 2014 22:09 (nine years ago) link

Hey, thanks, yeah, it's been a lot of fun doing it.

In the end, I got a Bloomsbury pocket guide, but it wasn't actually that helpful. Partly because it's arranged by family; not helpful when you don't even know the family. there is a pull-out sheet of "common plants" by bloom colour, but this leads to the second problem: a lot of these books are wide-ranging "flowers of Britain". And I don't know if they're primarily aimed at people who live in the countryside, and therefore feature a lot of meadow plants. What I'd really like is a super-localised "London weed guide" which features the stuff that grows round here a lot (which may not be as common in the rest of the country because 1) it's several degrees warmer on the Urban Heat Island or 2) so many garden escapees).

The best thing that happened for my flower knowledge recently, though, was meeting Roy from the South London Botanical Institute - he does a lot of guided wildflower walks all around the commons near my house. And he is highly knowledgeable and endlessly patient with over-bouncy new enthusiasts demanding "What's this? What's this?" over and over again. Doing three of his walks on local commons taught me more than any of the books. (I took copious notes, with mine own descriptions, too.) But his combination of folk tales and bizarro facts that you are not likely to forget ("It smells like mice!") has been super helpful.

Branwell with an N, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 10:54 (nine years ago) link

oh that sounds fun! and it's definitely the quirky descriptions and alternative names for things that help them stick in yr brain i think

"It smells like mice!"

lemme guess - herb robert right?

john wahey (NickB), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 11:03 (nine years ago) link

Nope - hemlock!

And I'll never forget Stinking Tutson - bushy plant, yellow flowers, smells like "a goat."

Branwell with an N, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 11:12 (nine years ago) link

oh, hemlock's a toughie to i.d.; all those umbillifers are a nightmare, but i really ought to get to grips with the nasty ones

john wahey (NickB), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 11:17 (nine years ago) link

eeek, this sounds terrifying:

Though somewhat similar in appearance to other plants with 'hemlock' in their common names, Conium maculatum is distinguished by its action of killing from the outside in as numbness of the extremities slowly becomes paralysis of the lungs. It has no effect on the brain.

john wahey (NickB), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 11:18 (nine years ago) link

my heart aches and a drowsy numbness pains my sense as though of hemlock i had drunk

john wahey (NickB), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 11:19 (nine years ago) link

Purple patches on the stalk (plus mousey odour) are your giveaways that it's the nasty one. I always thought (because of Romantic poetry etc.) that it was rather a nice, languid, dreamy death but apparently not!

Branwell with an N, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 11:40 (nine years ago) link

Roy Vickery has written a "Book of Unlucky Flowers" (hemlock v unlucky, I would imagine!) which I need to try to find.

Branwell with an N, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 11:42 (nine years ago) link

Picked up R Jefferies' Nature Near London, with MacFarlane intro, today. Not sure the Collins Nature Library series ran for more than three books but they are nice editions. The New Naturalist series is also lovely but phenomenally expensive.

Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 18:39 (nine years ago) link

That was a bizarrely truncated series, wasn't it? It went pretty much nowhere.

djh, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 20:23 (nine years ago) link

Reading a book about a hill I will never walk up, despite it being less than 50 miles away.

djh, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 20:26 (nine years ago) link

What is the hill, and why will you never walk up it?

Branwell with an N, Thursday, 7 August 2014 09:51 (nine years ago) link

jefferies was one of my literary heroes when i was a teenager. once spent a week walking the ridgeway path with just his book 'the story of my heart' for company, sleeping rough near all those neolithic hill forts etc. an intense experience at the time, maybe kinda sad in hindsight - i'm sure i should have been out raving instead.

new naturalists are expensive but they're great books that only go up in price after they go out of print. the oliver rackham woodlands one is really really good if you're into woodland ecosystems, makes me want to tunnel into the undergrowth and get all wild and fungal

john wahey (NickB), Thursday, 7 August 2014 10:13 (nine years ago) link

Why would you say those experiences are "kinda sad"? They sound actually kinda amazing, to me. What experiences would you have had raving that you did not have walking the Ridgeway? (Drugs? Sexual partners? I dunno.)

Been thinking about mine own isolated teenage years - how much of my years 13 to about 18 I spent exploring the woods of the Hudson Valley with no company but a dog. And yeah, maybe I should have been going to see the Jesus and Mary Chain at CBGB's or whatever it was that the direct contemporaries I would later become friends with were doing. But I think that exposure to landscapes and habitats and the appreciation both of "nature" (not sure what that means in an environment that has been worked as long as the Ridgeway has, but this is the essential conundrum of this whole thread, isn't it?) and Deep Time (seeing layers of human habitation, and how they get swept away - I didn't have hillforts, but I certainly had abandoned Colonial era homesteads) is surely a meaningful educational foundation for a human life?

(mutters something about uncool rural upbringings and learning the concept of self reliance, and the ability to manufacture one's own entertainments or diversions etc blah blah blah)

Branwell with an N, Thursday, 7 August 2014 11:12 (nine years ago) link

need to mull this over really, but... well i was rather socially unfulfilled due to shyness etc, and i think that disappearing into the countryside was kind of my attempt at forging some small bond with the world outside of my bedroom walls. i dunno, i was a daft and dreamy teen with no real clue about life outside of what i found in books and records.

john wahey (NickB), Thursday, 7 August 2014 13:39 (nine years ago) link

x-post.

Silbury. You're not allowed to walk up it any more (visitors were causing too much damage).

Finding it quite a weird experience but it's not as if I've had plans to walk, say, all Macfarlane's paths (aside from the "dangerous" beach one).

djh, Thursday, 7 August 2014 21:05 (nine years ago) link

Thoroughly enjoying Waterlog at the moment, thanks to this thread. It's a nice escape from having spent the entire year in cities with populations of 1m+. I can barely remember what the countryside looks like.

Also picked up A Land by Jacquetta Hawkes, Remote Britain by David St John Thomas and Four Hedges yesterday.

Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Friday, 8 August 2014 07:40 (nine years ago) link

Ah. But Silbury Hill isn't ~really a hill~, says I, it's an ancient monument! It's totally manmade! (I thought; maybe I should read the book to find out.) And generally Wiltshire don't allow you to go wandering about ancient monuments any more.

I mean, often when I read these books, I get the urge to go and investigate the places, but they're never really ones that are actually accessible to me to start with, so I just google them and look at photos of them and aerial photography of them, and just pretend, what it would be like to be there. So this is rather a familiar feeling, rather than an odd one.

Now I keep seeing H Is For Hawk advertised and reviewed and interviewed and praised everywhere. And though I do generally get the impression that it's very good, I don't know why I can't bring myself to read it. (Might be simple vegetarian squeamishness; don't know.)

Branwell with an N, Friday, 8 August 2014 09:11 (nine years ago) link

Just noticed (having finished "On Silbury Hill") that Little Toller have commissioned a monograph from Richard Skelton ("Fen Wall").

djh, Monday, 11 August 2014 20:36 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

Yes, I've got a similar resistance to H is for Hawk.

Just enjoyed Mabey's "Home Country" - an easy, enjoyable read. Had a vague feeling that I'd read lots of it before (presumably in his other books).

djh, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 07:28 (nine years ago) link

Oh my god, I'm doing a book!

How the hell did this happen?

Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Thursday, 18 September 2014 09:40 (nine years ago) link

!!! oh wow - congratulations! can you share any details?

john wahey (NickB), Thursday, 18 September 2014 09:48 (nine years ago) link

Well, it's an expanded, printed version of Ghosts of the Great North Wood.

More details once we hammer them out.

I'm swinging back and forth between wild excitement, mild disbelief and total "OMG who decided I could do a book? ~Ha!~" impostor syndrome and wondering when they will find me out.

Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Thursday, 18 September 2014 09:59 (nine years ago) link

hot damn, that's great! well done indeed :)

john wahey (NickB), Thursday, 18 September 2014 13:07 (nine years ago) link

Nice one.

djh, Thursday, 18 September 2014 18:30 (nine years ago) link

(Don't forget us on the Nature Reader thread when you're hangin' out on the Nature Writer one).

djh, Thursday, 18 September 2014 20:59 (nine years ago) link

I heard some very funny gossip about a nature writer oft discussed on this thread, but obviously, I cannot share it. ;-)

Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Thursday, 18 September 2014 21:01 (nine years ago) link

Well, it's an expanded, printed version of Ghosts of the Great North Wood.

More details once we hammer them out.

I'm swinging back and forth between wild excitement, mild disbelief and total "OMG who decided I could do a book? ~Ha!~" impostor syndrome and wondering when they will find me out.

― Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Thursday, 18 September 2014 09:59 (3 days ago) Bookmark

Delighted to hear this - it will be a book *worth having*.

Fizzles, Sunday, 21 September 2014 13:36 (nine years ago) link


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