even more quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a new rolling new york times thread

how much must this guy hate cheese

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This NYT article is very whimsical and fun it inspires me to have some fun too haha just having a blague XD

its a good time

i like cheese

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/08/realestate/student-loans-make-it-hard-to-rent-or-buy-a-home.html

When Tierney Cooke arrived in New York City in 2010, she faced a daunting choice: pay rent or pay off her student debt. She had taken out loans to put herself through four years at the University of Washington in Seattle, and her first job as a nanny barely paid the bills.
Ms. Cooke, 26, a California native, eventually landed a job in digital advertising, but still couldn’t find the money to pay the rent and the debt collectors at the same time.
Several missed payments dashed her credit score and that of her father, since he had co-signed the loans. Ms. Cooke stifled her dream of living alone.
“I take my responsibility for my part and not being on top of it,” Ms. Cooke said, but added that she signed on the dotted line as a clueless teenager. “At 18 or 19, agreeing to take on thousands and thousands of dollars of debt, I had no idea what it meant.”
Eventually, Ms. Cooke moved into a two-bedroom in Manhattan that housed four women, one boyfriend and two dogs, including Ms. Cooke’s cockapoo, Oliver.
She moved out, and for two months, slept on friends’ couches and air mattresses in divided bedrooms and spare nooks. Oliver, the dog, was not always welcome where Ms. Cooke was, so he had his own itinerary of abrupt relocations. She shed any remnants of an REM cycle at her sixth pit stop. “I was basically sharing a living room with a guy who snored and talked in his sleep,” she said.

tierney cooke, that's made up, that's an aaron sorkin name

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I missed the most aggy bit in that quote

Eventually, Ms. Cooke moved into a two-bedroom in Manhattan that housed four women, one boyfriend and two dogs, including Ms. Cooke’s cockapoo, Oliver.

“I couldn’t take it,” she said. “They were all in college.”

Ms. Cooke stifled her dream of living alone.

Ms. Cooke stifled her father's dream of a decent credit score

2011:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/23/sports/baseball/23giants.html

“It feels like October all over again,” said Tierney Cooke, a 22-year-old transplant from the Bay Area, who met her boyfriend, Dylan Houle, also from the East Bay, at the same bar while watching the Giants. “If they didn’t bring it down here, it would have been a disservice to all these loyal fans.”

i love reoccurring times characters. its like an easter egg for loyal fans.

Florida Man vs. 22-Year-Old Transplant

you're 26 and you want to live in manhattan and you have a cockapoo, i am not shedding tears for you

― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Sunday, June 8, 2014 4:28 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fucking seriously. also how many times has the nytimes run this story? young college grad can't afford an his/her own apartment in manhattan, oh no! wait wait wait does she find a life of her own in ................ brooklyn?

i kinda feel like just let the nytimes be the nytimes but on the other hand i am fascinated and surprised by the existence of young people who still feel like they need to live in manahattan, brooklyn has been media phenomenon for what 15 years, grandparents in kansas know that its good to live in brookyn idgi

You occasionally run into young people in my "field" who talk about Brooklyn like it's an exotic locale. Even that's becoming uncommon though. Usually either 30-somethings who got entrenched in Manhattan before Brooklyn became acceptable, or 20-somethings who just moved to the city and are from conservative families.

do they know what Queens is

Sometimes they know what Long Island City is.

i love that parmigiano thing but parmigiano is basically my favourite substance in the universe so i'm content if every day the times is full of slideshows interactive web reporting and #longreads about it

FWIW I think working as a nanny and being unable to make student loan payments isn't quite quid ag territory, even if she has unrealistic expectations.

You should totally be able to work as a nanny, make student loan payments, and generally be free of excessive want and fear. It may not involve a one-bedroom apartment, and at this point, to find that a shocking wake-up call when you finish school is a BIT quid/ag. But yeah it probably should be filed under a slightly different category.

I really don't like playing the "middle class person isn't making the money management choices I would make" game, it seems very not in the spirit of this thread.

Also the fact that her father co-signed the loans and then had his credit score dashed means that he didn't have the money to help pay them. Also she went to a state school. Reading between the lines here there is nothing about this person that is remotely "ruling class."

You occasionally run into young people in my "field" who talk about Brooklyn like it's an exotic locale. Even that's becoming uncommon though. Usually either 30-somethings who got entrenched in Manhattan before Brooklyn became acceptable, or 20-somethings who just moved to the city and are from conservative families.

ime its kinda just mainstreamerz, like sorority girl / frat types who moved to ny and want to live a lifestyle they saw on tv

You should totally be able to work as a nanny, make student loan payments, and generally be free of excessive want and fear.

Also I don't believe this is true in New York. A nanny might be taking home like $500/week. You can't really even rent a decent room in Manhattan or large swaths of Brooklyn for under $1000/month now. I mean there's always Queens, but still. Who even knows what her loan payment was -- $500/mo? $1000/mo? I just really hate people saying "x person should have no trouble making ends meet" with no idea what their financial situation actually is.

clearly the correct thing to look down on her for is going in debt for an out state public school when she was from california

dude, she refused to share an apartment with other roommates because they were "going to college". 26 in new york means no manhattan, no solo apartment and acting as if that's a hardship is plenty quid/agg
we've both been in her position; neither of us considered ourselves entitled enough to get what she had. and neither of us had a cockapoo.

"had" = "wanted" rather

Cockapoos are super cute. Don't malign the cockapoo.

she refused to share an apartment with other roommates because they were "going to college".

It was a two-bedroom apartment with five people and two dogs.

http://cdn-www.dailypuppy.com/dog-images/elbee-the-cockapoo_61050_2011-10-10_w450.jpg

"I love you, forks!"

One of the dogs was hers! And the "college" quote was her reasoning, not mine.

I just realized I was conflating cockapoo and cockatiel.

carl, no offense but i am not really a fan of small teddy bear dogs

I'm not a cockapoo so no offense taken.

cockapoos are so gd cute

You should consider adding a cockapoo to your family.

Someone get a god damn cockapoo and then bring it to my office to visit me, is what I'm saying.

You should totally be able to work as a nanny, make student loan payments, and generally be free of excessive want and fear.

Also I don't believe this is true in New York. A nanny might be taking home like $500/week. You can't really even rent a decent room in Manhattan or large swaths of Brooklyn for under $1000/month now. I mean there's always Queens, but still. Who even knows what her loan payment was -- $500/mo? $1000/mo? I just really hate people saying "x person should have no trouble making ends meet" with no idea what their financial situation actually is.

― Hier Komme Die Warum Jetzt (Hurting 2), Wednesday, June 11, 2014 10:53 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

FYI I meant "should" as in "it would be right in a just world for this to be so," not "i think this is right in the world we live in, what's this person's problem if they can't do it"

ah gotcha

Big Dogs or Small Dogs?

not wanting to live with people who are in college is totally reasonable, people hating on this girl are doing the bidding of the ruling class, and for what wld they even bother to pat you on the head, to them you are lower than a cockapoo

shes all "wow the system weve got is kinda bullshit huh" and youre all "lol u didnt know that noob shut up and eat the shit"

lagoon otm

It would be pretty funny if some enterprising NYU students had sublet their dorm room to her

NYU dorms don't allow pets apparently, bummer for the cockapoo lovers

wd've said 3 days ago that cockapoo was under the cockatoo

Genuinely sad and scary story with a quid-ag easter egg at the end:

http://gawker.com/well-all-be-dying-in-debtors-prisons-soon-1590359535

The reason debtor's prisons never made sense, anyway, is that debt itself is a bit of a prison. As any type-A Ivy League student carrying one of those big student loan burdens will tell you, it cuts off possibilities. It keeps you chained to a certain kind of life.

Which is quite depressing, yes, and has me contemplating a glass of wine at noon already.

When did NYT purchase Gawker?

crippling student debt is not a quid/ag!