Sometimes they know what Long Island City is.
― ₴HABΔZZ ¶IZZΔ (Hurting 2), Monday, 9 June 2014 16:01 (ten years ago) link
i love that parmigiano thing but parmigiano is basically my favourite substance in the universe so i'm content if every day the times is full of slideshows interactive web reporting and #longreads about it
― socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 05:56 (nine years ago) link
FWIW I think working as a nanny and being unable to make student loan payments isn't quite quid ag territory, even if she has unrealistic expectations.
― Hier Komme Die Warum Jetzt (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:21 (nine years ago) link
You should totally be able to work as a nanny, make student loan payments, and generally be free of excessive want and fear. It may not involve a one-bedroom apartment, and at this point, to find that a shocking wake-up call when you finish school is a BIT quid/ag. But yeah it probably should be filed under a slightly different category.
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:37 (nine years ago) link
I really don't like playing the "middle class person isn't making the money management choices I would make" game, it seems very not in the spirit of this thread.
― Hier Komme Die Warum Jetzt (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:48 (nine years ago) link
Also the fact that her father co-signed the loans and then had his credit score dashed means that he didn't have the money to help pay them. Also she went to a state school. Reading between the lines here there is nothing about this person that is remotely "ruling class."
― Hier Komme Die Warum Jetzt (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:50 (nine years ago) link
You occasionally run into young people in my "field" who talk about Brooklyn like it's an exotic locale. Even that's becoming uncommon though. Usually either 30-somethings who got entrenched in Manhattan before Brooklyn became acceptable, or 20-somethings who just moved to the city and are from conservative families.
ime its kinda just mainstreamerz, like sorority girl / frat types who moved to ny and want to live a lifestyle they saw on tv
― iatee, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:51 (nine years ago) link
You should totally be able to work as a nanny, make student loan payments, and generally be free of excessive want and fear.
Also I don't believe this is true in New York. A nanny might be taking home like $500/week. You can't really even rent a decent room in Manhattan or large swaths of Brooklyn for under $1000/month now. I mean there's always Queens, but still. Who even knows what her loan payment was -- $500/mo? $1000/mo? I just really hate people saying "x person should have no trouble making ends meet" with no idea what their financial situation actually is.
― Hier Komme Die Warum Jetzt (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:53 (nine years ago) link
clearly the correct thing to look down on her for is going in debt for an out state public school when she was from california
― iatee, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:55 (nine years ago) link
dude, she refused to share an apartment with other roommates because they were "going to college". 26 in new york means no manhattan, no solo apartment and acting as if that's a hardship is plenty quid/aggwe've both been in her position; neither of us considered ourselves entitled enough to get what she had. and neither of us had a cockapoo.
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 15:30 (nine years ago) link
"had" = "wanted" rather
Cockapoos are super cute. Don't malign the cockapoo.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 15:31 (nine years ago) link
she refused to share an apartment with other roommates because they were "going to college".
It was a two-bedroom apartment with five people and two dogs.
― Hier Komme Die Warum Jetzt (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 15:34 (nine years ago) link
http://cdn-www.dailypuppy.com/dog-images/elbee-the-cockapoo_61050_2011-10-10_w450.jpg
"I love you, forks!"
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 15:35 (nine years ago) link
One of the dogs was hers! And the "college" quote was her reasoning, not mine.
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 15:38 (nine years ago) link
I just realized I was conflating cockapoo and cockatiel.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 15:40 (nine years ago) link
carl, no offense but i am not really a fan of small teddy bear dogs
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 15:40 (nine years ago) link
I'm not a cockapoo so no offense taken.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 15:42 (nine years ago) link
cockapoos are so gd cute
― La Lechera, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 16:01 (nine years ago) link
You should consider adding a cockapoo to your family.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 16:02 (nine years ago) link
Someone get a god damn cockapoo and then bring it to my office to visit me, is what I'm saying.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 16:03 (nine years ago) link
― Hier Komme Die Warum Jetzt (Hurting 2), Wednesday, June 11, 2014 10:53 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
FYI I meant "should" as in "it would be right in a just world for this to be so," not "i think this is right in the world we live in, what's this person's problem if they can't do it"
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 16:15 (nine years ago) link
ah gotcha
― Hier Komme Die Warum Jetzt (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 16:17 (nine years ago) link
Big Dogs or Small Dogs?
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 16:31 (nine years ago) link
not wanting to live with people who are in college is totally reasonable, people hating on this girl are doing the bidding of the ruling class, and for what wld they even bother to pat you on the head, to them you are lower than a cockapoo
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 16:43 (nine years ago) link
shes all "wow the system weve got is kinda bullshit huh" and youre all "lol u didnt know that noob shut up and eat the shit"
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 16:44 (nine years ago) link
lagoon otm
― Hier Komme Die Warum Jetzt (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 17:59 (nine years ago) link
It would be pretty funny if some enterprising NYU students had sublet their dorm room to her
― badg, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 19:02 (nine years ago) link
NYU dorms don't allow pets apparently, bummer for the cockapoo lovers
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 19:06 (nine years ago) link
wd've said 3 days ago that cockapoo was under the cockatoo
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 19:16 (nine years ago) link
Genuinely sad and scary story with a quid-ag easter egg at the end:
http://gawker.com/well-all-be-dying-in-debtors-prisons-soon-1590359535
The reason debtor's prisons never made sense, anyway, is that debt itself is a bit of a prison. As any type-A Ivy League student carrying one of those big student loan burdens will tell you, it cuts off possibilities. It keeps you chained to a certain kind of life.
Which is quite depressing, yes, and has me contemplating a glass of wine at noon already.
― Hier Komme Die Warum Jetzt (Hurting 2), Friday, 13 June 2014 16:49 (nine years ago) link
When did NYT purchase Gawker?
― Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Friday, 13 June 2014 16:59 (nine years ago) link
crippling student debt is not a quid/ag!
― wat is teh waht (s.clover), Friday, 13 June 2014 17:34 (nine years ago) link
nor is drinking wine at noon afaik
― What Is It Like To Be A HOOS? (silby), Friday, 13 June 2014 17:45 (nine years ago) link
I think there's probably a strong positive correlation between crippling student loan debt and noon drinking. *opens beer*
― carl agatha, Friday, 13 June 2014 17:47 (nine years ago) link
Which beer are you drinking????
― Jeff, Friday, 13 June 2014 18:01 (nine years ago) link
lol
― lag∞n, Friday, 13 June 2014 18:27 (nine years ago) link
I guess it was a sincere attempt at empathy so I give her some credit. Less a quid-ag than a poor equivalency I guess.
― Hier Komme Die Warum Jetzt (Hurting 2), Friday, 13 June 2014 18:27 (nine years ago) link
I just had a Lagunitas IPA fwiw.
― Hier Komme Die Warum Jetzt (Hurting 2), Friday, 13 June 2014 18:28 (nine years ago) link
thinking debt is a prison is not quid-ag actual-prison comprehension fail!
it is a hallmark of classic american economic thought
Some of you, we all know, are poor, find it hard to live, are sometimes, as it were, gasping for breath. I have no doubt that some of you who read this book are unable to pay for all the dinners which you have actually eaten, or for the coats and shoes which are fast wearing or are already worn out, and have come to this page to spend borrowed or stolen time, robbing your creditors of an hour. It is very evident what mean and sneaking lives many of you live, for my sight has been whetted by experience; always on the limits, trying to get into business and trying to get out of debt, a very ancient slough, called by the Latins æs alienum, another's brass, for some of their coins were made of brass; still living, and dying, and buried by this other's brass; always promising to pay, promising to pay, tomorrow, and dying today, insolvent; seeking to curry favor, to get custom, by how many modes, only not state-prison offenses; lying, flattering, voting, contracting yourselves into a nutshell of civility or dilating into an atmosphere of thin and vaporous generosity, that you may persuade your neighbor to let you make his shoes, or his hat, or his coat, or his carriage, or import his groceries for him; making yourselves sick, that you may lay up something against a sick day, something to be tucked away in an old chest, or in a stocking behind the plastering, or, more safely, in the brick bank; no matter where, no matter how much or how little.
― j., Friday, 13 June 2014 19:04 (nine years ago) link
crippling student debt is not a quid/ag!― wat is teh waht (s.clover)
nor is drinking wine at noon afaik― What Is It Like To Be A HOOS? (silby)
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Friday, 13 June 2014 19:19 (nine years ago) link
Even more shouts and murmurs of the ruling class:http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/shouts/2014/05/if-you-let-your-teen-age-daughter-sleep-in-on-a-school-day.html?intcid=obnetwork
― 'arry Goldman (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 14:54 (nine years ago) link
tee hee I'm not really much of a parent but it doesn't matter because I have so much money that everything will work out!
― 'arry Goldman (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 15:09 (nine years ago) link
getting the cleaner hooked on uber? more money more problems I guess!
― Sufjan Grafton, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 15:14 (nine years ago) link
wow, that's some kind of quid/ag epic poetry
― odd proggy geezer (Moodles), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 15:15 (nine years ago) link
Ah, she's the author of The Official Preppy Handbook, so she already has a long successful career of having her head up her own rich ass
― Dan I., Tuesday, 8 July 2014 15:29 (nine years ago) link
it also explains how she was able to get that shit published in the new yorker
― Dan I., Tuesday, 8 July 2014 15:30 (nine years ago) link
Her long successful career seems to have consisted mostly of (1) having written that book, (2) having written a follow-up book 31 years later, and (3) having worked on a bunch of "1003 things about ___" books
― 'arry Goldman (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 16:01 (nine years ago) link
i believe that is supposed to be a satirical humour piece fellows
― socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 16:30 (nine years ago) link
how is that "satire"?
― 'arry Goldman (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 16:34 (nine years ago) link