thread for contemplating the serious issues raised by the Men's Rights movement

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i don't think *ahem* ALL men are being impugned in that thread, dude

Who whom kissed? (imago), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:17 (ten years ago) link

or, to draw a subtle distinction, all of men

Who whom kissed? (imago), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:17 (ten years ago) link

when male friends sit around complaining about their wives not ALL women are being impugned but guess what? all women are actually being impugned. that's the nature of gender-based stereotyping, even when it's not about "all men" or "all women"

Mordy, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:18 (ten years ago) link

lol you guys are so gone into the rabbit hole that this very obvious point is eliding you. i'm not calling for a white history month, or claiming that white men experience unfair racism or sexism in society. i agree that white men are at the top of the hierarchy. that's a totally different conversation. i'm saying that just bc they have tons of societal "privileges" doesn't mean it's suddenly fair game to start maligning them as a group.

Mordy, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:19 (ten years ago) link

fuck off, phil.

Mordy, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:20 (ten years ago) link

misandry gifs <3

lex pretend, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:21 (ten years ago) link

absolutely. i am serious about that and i wd like the comedy image macros to stay in one of their other homes.

― thus spake darraghthustra (Noodle Vague), Monday, November 18, 2013 7:13 AM (6 months ago) Bookmark

Mordy, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:22 (ten years ago) link

‘”Why do men feel threatened by women?” I asked a male friend of mine. So this male friend of mine, who does by the way exist, conveniently entered into the following dialogue. “I mean,” I said, “men are bigger, most of the time, they can run faster, strangle better, and they have on the average a lot more money and power.” “They’re afraid women will laugh at them,” he said. “Undercut their world view.”

Then I asked some women students in a quickie poetry seminar I was giving, “Why do women feel threatened by men?” “They’re afraid of being killed,” they said.’

Margaret Atwood, Writing the Male Character (1982)

Disagree. And im not into firey solos chief. (Phil D.), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:23 (ten years ago) link

i think your inability to interact w/ this on any kind of level besides google image search copy/pastes is indicative of yr immaturity phil

Mordy, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:24 (ten years ago) link

I think you need to triple your weed intake and stop being an uptight fuck.

I have never lost a minute of sleep worrying that black people might sit around and talk smack about white people *as a race*. I hope they do!

Disagree. And im not into firey solos chief. (Phil D.), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:27 (ten years ago) link

Who is losing sleep? I'm talking about a public thread on a message board.

Mordy, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:28 (ten years ago) link

I'll take that under advisement.

Disagree. And im not into firey solos chief. (Phil D.), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:30 (ten years ago) link

And I was afrad ilx might be boring today.

djenter the dragon? (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:30 (ten years ago) link

Mordy, they're just joking in the no boys thread, no need to be all emotional/irrational/sensitive about it.

Jeff, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:31 (ten years ago) link

I only skimmed it but most of what I see in the no-boys thread is not about "hating men" so much as complaining about actual subtly oppressive things real men do or have done to them.

Hier Komme Die Warum Jetzt (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:31 (ten years ago) link

yknow i support misandry and am fully behind the #killallmen project but i dunno, spike hammered into the brain seems a tad harsh.

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:31 (ten years ago) link

i grew up in a community where ppl talked shit about "goyim" my entire life, but my parents taught me that bigotry is wrong even when directed from the powerless against the powerful.

Mordy, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:31 (ten years ago) link

Mordy, what the fuck?

how's life, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:33 (ten years ago) link

I only skimmed it but most of what I see in the no-boys thread is not about "hating men" so much as complaining about actual subtly oppressive things real men do or have done to them.

― Hier Komme Die Warum Jetzt (Hurting 2), Wednesday, June 11, 2014 2:31 PM (21 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, come on. It's not about hating men at all. It's about actual lived experiences that we are sharing only to find out whoa, hey, other people have this same experience!

I'm sorry if it upsets you. Maybe you need a break from the internet right now.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:33 (ten years ago) link

I only skimmed it but most of what I see in the no-boys thread is not about "hating men" so much as complaining about actual subtly oppressive things real men do or have done to them.

― Hier Komme Die Warum Jetzt (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:31 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is the nub, really, Mords

Who whom kissed? (imago), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:33 (ten years ago) link

Black Person: "I can never get a cab in the city, these cabbies are so racist"
Mordy: "Bigotry is wrong, whether based on skin color or occupation."

Hier Komme Die Warum Jetzt (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:34 (ten years ago) link

oh, so as long as i've personally experienced being mugged at gunpoint by a black man, it's okay to talk about how black ppl are always mugging you. NOT ALL BLACK PPL. #yesallwhites

Mordy, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:35 (ten years ago) link

cant groan loud enough @ mordy

smooth hymnal (m bison), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:36 (ten years ago) link

Jesus Mordy.

Hier Komme Die Warum Jetzt (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:36 (ten years ago) link

no, it's cool, we're just talking about real lived experience so it's okay

Mordy, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:37 (ten years ago) link

u might get more of what you seek at the washington post op-ed page, dude

smooth hymnal (m bison), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:37 (ten years ago) link

you all realize this is just about Mordy trying to get someone kicked off of ILX again, right

Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:38 (ten years ago) link

I love the idea that Mordy just keeps hitting F5 on the "no boys" thread looking for things to be pissy about.

I think I'll go down to the synagogue on the corner tonight and smh at all the people davening while getting offended that they don't think I'm one of God's chosen.

Disagree. And im not into firey solos chief. (Phil D.), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:39 (ten years ago) link

trust me, the things i've heard in the orthodox community about gentiles goes way beyond "not God's chosen."

Mordy, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:40 (ten years ago) link

you all realize this is just about Mordy trying to get someone kicked off of ILX again, right

― Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Wednesday, June 11, 2014 2:38 PM (7 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

A specific person? Because baiting someone (especially with this amateur hour bullshit) until they leave/get kicked off a website is particularly atrocious behavior.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:40 (ten years ago) link

xp can't he just go troll her on Twitter or does she have him blocked?

xxp I live in a community where little kids wearing yarmulkes and tzitzit stare at the goyim (i.e., me) like they're zoo animals. I'm well aware.

Disagree. And im not into firey solos chief. (Phil D.), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:41 (ten years ago) link

oh ffs, DJP has no idea what motivates me. he's just speculating.

Mordy, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:41 (ten years ago) link

hey bro just man up

macklin' rosie (crüt), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:43 (ten years ago) link

Mordy what statement in that thread actually offended you as a man?

Hier Komme Die Warum Jetzt (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:46 (ten years ago) link

Why are you yelling, Mordy? Stop being so sensitive!

Disagree. And im not into firey solos chief. (Phil D.), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:47 (ten years ago) link

guess what - ppl have often told me to stop yelling when i was just speaking sternly to them. it's a gender-pervasive issue that ppl often mishear criticism in a louder voice than it was actually made. women have even told me to stop yelling when i wasn't actually yelling.

Mordy, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:48 (ten years ago) link

gender-pervasive? gender-spanning. or whatever.

Mordy, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:48 (ten years ago) link

women have even told me to stop yelling when i wasn't actually yelling

It's because they're too polite to shut say shut the fuck up.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:49 (ten years ago) link

Oh well, since someone has told you to stop yelling when you weren't yelling, women in the "no boys" thread are definitely misandrist saying that every man is terrible.

That makes perfect sense.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:50 (ten years ago) link

yes, i think taking universal human behavior and ascribing it to a particular gender is sexist

Mordy, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:50 (ten years ago) link

carl a. I think u need to calm down

Disagree. And im not into firey solos chief. (Phil D.), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:50 (ten years ago) link

hey phil, can we maybe have a discussion w/out ur worthless snarks every other post?

Mordy, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:51 (ten years ago) link

Is it because I said to punch men in the dick when they accuse women of yelling when they aren't yelling? Because I definitely meant that women should always punch every man they meet in the dick all the time, definitely, no exceptions, no questions asked. 24/7 dickpunching.

xp

You're asking for it, Phil D.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 14:51 (ten years ago) link


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