also Bernie Sanders is a hack who says pretty things
and Hellary is not going to be "pushed" anywhere ideologically, as like her hubby she had her principles lanced in the '70s
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 June 2014 01:41 (ten years ago) link
Ew @ "lanced."
― schwantz, Thursday, 12 June 2014 01:42 (ten years ago) link
If Brooklyn gets the Dem convention I am v interested in seeing how deBlasio instructs the NYPD to handle protests, which should be daily and vigorous.
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 June 2014 01:47 (ten years ago) link
don't you mean vigorou$
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 June 2014 01:51 (ten years ago) link
hard to $ay
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 June 2014 02:30 (ten years ago) link
"What is this, Russia? We're not allowed to get rich anymore?" - Paul Begala
http://www.fair.org/blog/2014/06/11/crossfire-clueless-on-israeli-occupation/
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 June 2014 15:39 (ten years ago) link
Russia has more millionaires than any other country iirc
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 June 2014 15:49 (ten years ago) link
She could've just said, “I did not grow up even imagining gay marriage and I don’t think you did either. This was an incredible new and important idea that people on the front lines of the gay right movement began to talk about and slowly, but surely, convinced others about the rightness of that position. I was initially reluctant because I didn't know much about it; eventually I began to see how important it was to gay friends. They convinced me I had a moral obligation to support it."
Instead she attacks one of NPR's more annoying questioners.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/hillary-gay-marriage-npr-terry-gross
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 June 2014 19:20 (ten years ago) link
"Well, Terry, Bill and I thought we knew how to count votes at the time -- our pollsters stick to us like flies on shit."
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 June 2014 21:13 (ten years ago) link
totally dgaf about what she thinks or thought about this issue, since it's totally immaterial now
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 June 2014 21:16 (ten years ago) link
in the end everybody in the legislature were total cowards, it took the courts to do it
why are you un-American?
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 June 2014 21:17 (ten years ago) link
force of habit
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 June 2014 21:18 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GemdhewVso
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 June 2014 21:21 (ten years ago) link
this is a strange argument for you of all people to acceptbullshit, bcz we're done, it's e$$entially fixed, and none of it matters― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, June 11, 2014 8:34 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
bullshit, bcz we're done, it's e$$entially fixed, and none of it matters
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, June 11, 2014 8:34 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
if this is true, why bother posting here at all? or even giving a 2nd thought to any of it? i'm sure you can find things to do that are more fun, and i'm sure few of us would miss the constant above-it-all dispatches. it's win-win. i am not being facetious.
that said, i'm the dr. morbius of dr. morbius, since I hold out little hope that you'll stop trolling here. nothing will change. it's all fixed.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Thursday, 12 June 2014 22:13 (ten years ago) link
https://31.media.tumblr.com/f4abfaed15cf43125e7af995d622d4d3/tumblr_n6yyr4bAWt1rgh197o1_400.gif
― Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Thursday, 12 June 2014 22:16 (ten years ago) link
what is that behind her? is that a translucent coat of arms?
― I dunno. (amateurist), Thursday, 12 June 2014 22:17 (ten years ago) link
oh you haven't watched that yet? so many lolz to be had
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 June 2014 22:33 (ten years ago) link
link?
― I dunno. (amateurist), Thursday, 12 June 2014 22:42 (ten years ago) link
http://www.56.com/u73/v_MTE1MDcxOTQy.html
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 12 June 2014 22:45 (ten years ago) link
am, I AM DONE WITH YOU SPECIFICALLY. BOOM!
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Friday, 13 June 2014 05:07 (ten years ago) link
NOT ABOVE IT ALL, JUST ABOVE YOU
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Friday, 13 June 2014 05:08 (ten years ago) link
whatever. you live in new york, right? you should order some russian food at 2 AM. i wish i could do that.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 13 June 2014 07:43 (ten years ago) link
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/06/hillary-clintons-gay-marriage-problem/372717/
― j., Friday, 13 June 2014 15:12 (ten years ago) link
That video is incredible.
― schwantz, Friday, 13 June 2014 18:22 (ten years ago) link
was struck by this offhand observation, in the middle of the NYT's unjustly admiring profile of neocon blowhard robert kagan:
But Exhibit A for what Robert Kagan describes as his “mainstream” view of American force is his relationship with former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, who remains the vessel into which many interventionists are pouring their hopes. Mr. Kagan pointed out that he had recently attended a dinner of foreign-policy experts at which Mrs. Clinton was the guest of honor, and that he had served on her bipartisan group of foreign-policy heavy hitters at the State Department, where his wife worked as her spokeswoman.“I feel comfortable with her on foreign policy,” Mr. Kagan said, adding that the next step after Mr. Obama’s more realist approach “could theoretically be whatever Hillary brings to the table” if elected president. “If she pursues a policy which we think she will pursue,” he added, “it’s something that might have been called neocon, but clearly her supporters are not going to call it that; they are going to call it something else.”
“I feel comfortable with her on foreign policy,” Mr. Kagan said, adding that the next step after Mr. Obama’s more realist approach “could theoretically be whatever Hillary brings to the table” if elected president. “If she pursues a policy which we think she will pursue,” he added, “it’s something that might have been called neocon, but clearly her supporters are not going to call it that; they are going to call it something else.”
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 00:48 (ten years ago) link
oh, story here: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/16/us/politics/historians-critique-of-obama-foreign-policy-is-brought-alive-by-events-in-iraq.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=0
I still believe in a place I pour Hope.
― pplains, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 00:50 (ten years ago) link
Hillary was in Toronto today, speaking to the Board of Trade about how she's not sure if she's running for president, she has to give that some thought, and then over to Indigo for a book signing. Actually would have gone down for the second if it had been summer break.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 01:16 (ten years ago) link
the fuck outta here with this triangulation bullshit:
Former President Bill Clinton, in a video message to be broadcast this week, says he was “honored and grateful to be among the voices urging” the overturning of the Defense of Marriage Act, the measure he signed into law in 1996 that barred federal recognition of same-sex marriages.
Mr. Clinton’s remarks will be included in a special program to honor gay rights activists that will be shown on Thursday on Logo TV, a cable channel aimed at gay and lesbian viewers. The special, called “Trailblazers,” will mark the first anniversary of the Supreme Court’s decision to overturn the marriage act, and will pay tribute to two figures in the case: Roberta A. Kaplan, a lawyer, and Edith Windsor, the plaintiff.
“As marriage equality spreads across the states, the number of people impacted by these two amazing women will only continue to grow,” Mr. Clinton said, according to a transcript of his comments.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 June 2014 16:53 (ten years ago) link
defines chutzpah as well as any prez we've had, I'm sure he wd set a new standard for First Spouses too
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 June 2014 17:02 (ten years ago) link
wow. but the events of 1996 have far exceeded the statute of limitations on the memories of potential voters, so he can say whatever he wants now, pretty much
― Karl Malone, Monday, 23 June 2014 17:09 (ten years ago) link
rmde
― Οὖτις, Monday, 23 June 2014 17:09 (ten years ago) link
i know a lot of ppl who have changed their mind of gay marriage between 1996 and today (like all of the centrist/labor-democrats i know) so i doubt that they'll forgive him bc they forgot what happened in 96 - they probably see him mirroring their own evolution on the issue.
― Mordy, Monday, 23 June 2014 17:10 (ten years ago) link
"evolution"
― Οὖτις, Monday, 23 June 2014 17:11 (ten years ago) link
aren't american politics pretty much a history of ppl evolving on various issues? first a cause is championed by a minority - they make a compelling case (here, an ethical one) - and slowly ppl come around to it until it builds steam and policy changes.
― Mordy, Monday, 23 June 2014 17:14 (ten years ago) link
also old people die
― Οὖτις, Monday, 23 June 2014 17:26 (ten years ago) link
i'm just saying that in my world of old ppl...
― Mordy, Monday, 23 June 2014 17:27 (ten years ago) link
obviously this is not one of the reasons he should currently be serving a life sentence.
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 June 2014 17:37 (ten years ago) link
The Clintons understand that large numbers of voters who accept gay marriage in 2014 were equally accepting of DOMA in 1996.
― Aimless, Monday, 23 June 2014 17:48 (ten years ago) link
http://whatever.scalzi.com/2014/06/24/how-not-to-talk-about-your-money-very-rich-edition/
― o. nate, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 14:09 (ten years ago) link
It's not voters accepting gay marriage in 2014 – it's the sanctimony with which those two affirm their believe in gay marriage when that man signed DOMA in the middle of the night in 1996.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 June 2014 14:11 (ten years ago) link
it's amazing they don't break their arms patting themselves on the back that hard
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 15:51 (ten years ago) link
It's easy when yer secretly laughing at the chumps.
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 June 2014 16:01 (ten years ago) link
not looking forward to another 4-8 years of this shit
― marcos, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 16:01 (ten years ago) link
Of this thread.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 June 2014 16:05 (ten years ago) link
she can be stopped.
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 June 2014 16:09 (ten years ago) link
(they) (it)
by what?
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 16:10 (ten years ago) link
a primary challenge
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 June 2014 16:11 (ten years ago) link