Your 2016 Presidential Candidate Speculation Thread

rmde

i know a lot of ppl who have changed their mind of gay marriage between 1996 and today (like all of the centrist/labor-democrats i know) so i doubt that they'll forgive him bc they forgot what happened in 96 - they probably see him mirroring their own evolution on the issue.

"evolution"

aren't american politics pretty much a history of ppl evolving on various issues? first a cause is championed by a minority - they make a compelling case (here, an ethical one) - and slowly ppl come around to it until it builds steam and policy changes.

also old people die

i'm just saying that in my world of old ppl...

obviously this is not one of the reasons he should currently be serving a life sentence.

The Clintons understand that large numbers of voters who accept gay marriage in 2014 were equally accepting of DOMA in 1996.

http://whatever.scalzi.com/2014/06/24/how-not-to-talk-about-your-money-very-rich-edition/

It's not voters accepting gay marriage in 2014 – it's the sanctimony with which those two affirm their believe in gay marriage when that man signed DOMA in the middle of the night in 1996.

it's amazing they don't break their arms patting themselves on the back that hard

It's easy when yer secretly laughing at the chumps.

not looking forward to another 4-8 years of this shit

Of this thread.

she can be stopped.

(they) (it)

by what?

a primary challenge

but she's the Dem's Bob Dole and John McCain, therefore She's Earned It, according to donors.

primary challenge not going to be permitted

expect the unexpected

starting to think Morbz has an elaborate assassination plot in mind

I am a peaceful man, and do not stoop to my enemy's level except on alternate Thursdays

someone already ahead of that curve:

Arkansas GOP leader resigns after Clinton comment

LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) - The Republican Party of Arkansas says a district chairman has resigned a day after he was quoted saying that Hillary Clinton "would probably get shot at the state line" if she ran for president in 2016.

GOP Chairman Doyle Webb says Johnny Rhoda resigned Wednesday as 2nd District Republican chairman. On Tuesday, U.S. News reported that Rhoda said in an interview that he didn't believe Clinton was popular in Arkansas and that a presidential campaign wouldn't be well-received.

Webb said in a statement that Rhoda was "apologetic" for the statements and that they were an unnecessary distraction for the party.

reminder that a lunatic did in fact shoot the state chair of the democratic party in arkansas six years ago

not looking forward to another 4-8 years of this shit

You do have to give the DNC til 2024 to find a transgendered Latino paraplegic candidate who's willing to kill citizens on American soil without due process.

megalol at political hacks (ie Chris Ciliza) arguing that Hillary will get more out of Congress because of her history of compromise/negotiation. If the GOP still controls the House in 2016 they won't give her any victories either, let's be real now.

"evolution"

― Οὖτις, Monday, June 23, 2014 12:11 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i dunno if i'm quite as cynical about this concept as other folks here. i mean, maybe "evolution" is too polite a term, but how else do you describe it when the needle shifts so far in so little time? a LOT of americans went from being reflexively anti-marriage equality to being more-or-less thoughtfully pro-marriage equality from the 1990s to today.

there's no doubt that the clintons' attempt to say that they were against what they were for is pretty rotten, esp. when they don't really need to bother. obama has gotten away with referring to his own personal "evolution" and the clintons would probably be fine doing so as well. but lying is like an instinct to them—instead of being the thing you do when you're backed into a corner, it's the default response.

but in honesty this feels like so much water under the bridge to me. there are plenty of other reasons to find a clinton presidency (or just candidacy) unpalatable.

The difference is that as obviously political Obama's bleatings about "evolution" were he DID endorse some kind of gay marriage years before he became president.

lying is like an instinct to them—instead of being the thing you do when you're backed into a corner, it's the default response.

in other words this

i'd be a paranoid mess if i were hillary clinton, how does she keep her lies and obfuscations straight? does she have a point person to keep track of all that stuff?

how does she keep her lies and obfuscations straight?

This is one of the least palatable features of US democracy. Anyone who sets out, whatever their motives, seeking a position where they have some power to set public policy, has to reckon with a thousand political factors that have nothing to do with what they personally think would be good policy and everything to do with getting 50.01% of the votes cast in any given election, or else they will forfeit almost all power to participate in government and be as impotent as the rest of us. This has been true since roughly 1800. You'd think we'd get used to this wretched state of affairs eventually, but we never seem to.

Didn't realize till this morning there was a makeover underway.

http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/perry.glasses.jpeg

hi!

he look smart.

A Texan wearing big black glasses like that? That'll be the day!

if u follow nba basketball this comparison makes sense:
http://yfrog.com/obzrixp:iphone

lol

clearly this is just a ploy so perry can at an opportune moment during the debates throw off his opponents by taking off his glasses and revealing that omg he's beautiful

'kiss me' by sixpence none the richer to be his campaign theme

http://girlswithglasses.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/tara-reid-alone-in-the-dark.jpg

Get ready, 2016!

http://tiborkrausz.com/image/Superman%201.jpg

Bias confession: This reporter’s heart is with Cruz and/or Paul,

as always, the corner's comments are even better than the article.

ANYONE is better than any candidate the DEMS will run...Fat, old, ugly Hillary is thinking about running..She should be running away from the mirror! My cat is a conservative thinker and she could win the next Presidential election. Thanks to Obama, Dems are finished for at least a decade..Thank you Obama, may I have another

a -- ny -- one.

unskewed pollcats

THANKS OBAMA

So how bout HRC and Kissinger as friends?

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/09/05/hillary_clinton_henry_kissinger_pals.html

They are both members of the International Power Politics Club. Oh, and former Secretaries of State, too.

homeboy needs to kick it so we can find out how corrupt he actually was.

how does he manage to stay politically relevant? there are lots of other smart guys in dc

how does he manage to stay politically relevant?

That Nobel Peace Prize of his, maybe?