S/D: Gay movies of arty qualities

looking fwd to the new Julian Hernandez at Newfest NYC tnite

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7e8tUqT19Q

A search turns up absolutely no discussion of Lilting, and frankly I can see why. Tasteful, pleasant and dull, the kind of gay film you could show to your parents. The (non-sexual) scenes of the new Q in bed with his lover were rather beautifully intimate, though; the film could have used more of them.

I don't think people have called it a gay movie, but Greenaway's latest, Eisenstein in Guajanuato, is def an arty film about a gay relationship, with copious amounts of male nudity. And it's also one of his best, though I'm prob not the right to judge, as I kinda don't like Greenaway.

S: sadie benning

on Ron Peck’s Nighthawks (1978) and Derek Jarman’s Will You Dance with Me? (1984), "two essential documents of gay London"

http://artforum.com/film/id=51679

Has anyone seen Bertrand Bonello's Saint Laurent? It is a beautiful and arty film, and there's a whole subtheme about the development of gay culture in the late sixties/early seventies. Bonello will apparantly have a retro in NY in a few days, I think.

Eastern Boys was pretty good. Did not really expect to see a gay Make Way For Tomorrow and now a gay Taxi Driver released within the same year.

i see what you're saying re TD but it never occurred to me while watching EB.

Didn't care for EB becoming a hotel melodrama.

http://blogs.indiewire.com/bent/readers-poll-the-50-most-important-lgbt-filmmakers-20150615

Top 10:

01. Pedro Almodovar
02. Todd Haynes
03. Gus Van Sant
04. R.W. Fassbinder
05. John Waters
06. Derek Jarman
07. Lisa Cholodenko (tie)
07. Lee Daniels (tie)
09. Apichatpong Weerasethakul
10. Xavier Dolan

Pasolini at #13; Visconti at #21; Warhol at #24; Davies at #33.

well i'm glad Visconti and Pasolini arent alive to read that

Most Important LGBT Film (According To You): "Ally About My Mother" (1999)

howling

I love most of that top 10 but I just do not get Almodovar. I don't hate his stuff or anything - and I've sat through a bunch of them - I just don't find anything engaging in them to latch onto, the melodrama does not appeal.

(well, more like top 5 - past that I don't care so much)

and I would've put Anger near the top

it's not straight melodrama, Shakes

and where is Tsai ming-Liang or Rosa von Praunheim?

Rainer Werner Fassbinder
Most Important LGBT Film (According To You): "Querelle" (1982)

yes, ie the one that demonstrates maybe he died a few months late

perhaps I should clarify - I do not care about the characters and their problems

fascinating

clearly you are not an actressexual

do you care about Gael Garcia Bernal in wet briefs?

lol @ actressexual

Is Tsai ming-Liang officially out?

clearly you are not an actressexual

ya got me

apparently he has been for awhile, but no one ever talks about him and lee Kang-sheng.

xp

7 (tie). Lee Daniels
Born: 1959 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Debut Film: "Shadowboxer" (2005)
Most Important LGBT Film (According To You): Daniels hasn't really made a "LGBT film" per say, and didn't get any votes on our list.

where are Mitchell Leisen and George Cukor and James Whale?

They qualified the list as "post-Stonewall" era.

I can understand cavils about Almodovar, especially when after 1999 every movie got over the top praise despite being better than every one of his nineties movies.

these days I get excited most about I'm So Excited, which no one much liked.

I can't stand them, personally. I find them shrill and boring.

do gays know you feel this way about them?

VG

Bad Education, Talk to Her, Law of Desire, and Volver may be boring but "shrill"? Come on now.

And/or

I fucking loved I'm So Excited and cannot fathom why it was so critically panned when it was such a great return to form

my man

i'm usually won over by almodovar but i can see how the appeal is limited. kewl that tsai is gay. what time is it there? and goodbye, dragon inn are two of my favorite films ever. i would take him, joe and fassbinder in a pinch and be ok with leaving the rest of the top ten, or whatever. mainly i just want to see more tsai films, and the new joe film.

on balance, liked more gay directors in the closet

"Masc only, plz."

masked

cf Adam Brody Damsels speech

Mouthing the words of a closeted man.

sez you!

obv it's not a blanket statement, but Gregg Araki is living with a woman now, Christopher Munch has vanished, and X Dolan is kind of an idiot.

better dolan than nolan

but his hair, his hair!

There is nothing more to say. You're all insufferable clods.

do you care about Gael Garcia Bernal in wet briefs?

The recent-ish, Armond White-approved Last Summer seems to want to be a queer variant on an early David Gordon Green pic--All the Real Boys, perhaps?--but too often confuses adolescent banalities spoken in laconic voiceover for profundity. I like that it isn't about coming out or homophobia, despite its Deep South setting (a copy of Flannery O'Connor on a bookshelf is eager to let you know that the filmmaker has done is homework!), but then again it isn't really about much of anything else, either.

anyone familiar w/ video artist Vika Kirchenbauer?

http://onlocation.dirtylooksnyc.org/nyc-oct-4

i caught lan yu and thought it was okay https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lan_Yu_(film)

take this with a grain of salt though its coming from a straight

Jack Smith's Normal Love is playing downtown tonight... YT version is unwatchably poor quality, but you can get an idea of it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNI9OgICJHk