yes, that's the one. tall as a tree. rode a bicycle. had no filter.
― Bitterer than Bitter (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 12 September 2014 00:34 (nine years ago) link
if shitty behaviour is on one day needing to make sure you leave on the dot from a shitty job then jeezo what a life
I praise your good fortune. I've been written up - honest to god written up - for being TWO MINUTES late for work before. In all call centres Ive worked in (and this is why I no longer do), its not the leaving early so much as the deliberate dropping call/putting self on no calls move thats the punisable offence. You honestly DONT get to just swan off 5-10 mins early without warning. Its just that kind of work. You wouldnt do it working behind a counter and leaving the other person in the lurch during lunch rush without warning; same kinda idea.
I once asked 2 times running to leave work 15 mins early (making up the time with earlier start) so I could get to band rehearsal. Because I made the mistake of saying thats what it was rather than something fucking noble like "I have kids", I got told sharply "dont make a habit of this".
― the Bronski Review (Trayce), Friday, 12 September 2014 01:08 (nine years ago) link
having managed ppl, neando is pretty much otm. particularly since it shafted dude's coworkers
having worked at a call center for two and a half months in the mid-90s, that shit is soul-crushingly awful and basically fuck that system in every possible way
― mookieproof, Friday, 12 September 2014 01:24 (nine years ago) link
Yeah "but they get overtime!" means nothing when your plans have been ruined or you end up stuck on a 35 minute call at shift's end cos some deaf old lady doesnt know what "click the start menu" means.
― the Bronski Review (Trayce), Friday, 12 September 2014 03:37 (nine years ago) link
I DONT SEE THE STAR MENU DEARIE
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 September 2014 03:39 (nine years ago) link
left click? which left? whats a click?
― the Bronski Review (Trayce), Friday, 12 September 2014 03:54 (nine years ago) link
Oh I dont like mice
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 September 2014 04:08 (nine years ago) link
Oh you mean my SCREEN SAVER
― Gay Fire Beautiful Dong (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 12 September 2014 04:16 (nine years ago) link
Why does the cup holder keep popping out???
― nickn, Friday, 12 September 2014 05:41 (nine years ago) link
There's having a word in someone's ear and there's not being able to wait to start formal disciplinary action. If the dude had previous repeated transgressions then sure, write him up, but Neanderthal's post reads like someone who loves exerting his authority.
― I misuse (onimo), Saturday, 13 September 2014 09:27 (nine years ago) link
Helpdesk is a shitty job - everyone who does it needs a plan to get out and into something else as soon as they can. I haven't worked on a helpdesk for years, but two of our helpdesk guys left this week - one has moved on to a better job, the other just walked.
― wackness unlimited (snoball), Saturday, 13 September 2014 09:46 (nine years ago) link
Today is my last day before I leave for two weeks of vacation, which people have known about for over a month and I bet I don't even have to type anything else for anyone reading to know how things are going for me today.
It isn't helping that I've been staying up past midnight for the last three days trying to get things done, so I'm running on a serious sleep deficit.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 17:51 (nine years ago) link
I can't imagine what it's like to work a job like that where it's like ppl know and they drop the ball and you STILL have to deal with it!! I feel like I wd get so much pleasure from being, like, "uh, sorry, this isn't news and you've had tons of time to prepare for this and your emergency is not going to become my emergency"
― EMA Sumac (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 19:50 (nine years ago) link
The pleasure starts to fade the fourth time you tell somebody that because by that time you start thinking you are doing something wrong.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 22:30 (nine years ago) link
This is a bitch-by-proxy, but similar to Carl's above; my wife is about to start maternity leave, and had been pestering some dude for information she absolutely needed to get something done. She repeatedly explained that she was going on mat leave (for a year) so it was super important she got it. Eventually got him on the phone and he promised it would be sent by close of business that day. The next day; nothing, so she emailed him for an update. Got an Out of Office as he's on vacation for 3 weeks, getting back the monday after she starts maternity leave.
On the one hand, dick move, but on the other hand I admire his skills at avoiding doing his job and getting away with it.
― CraigG, Thursday, 25 September 2014 09:00 (nine years ago) link
Not so much annoying as weird: guy singing a (very repetitive) hymn - at least I think it was a hymn - from inside a toilet cubicle. Oh, here's the annoying bit, it was in totally the wrong key for his voice, far too high... why sing out loud in the wrong key?
― The Count has shot himself (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 12:47 (nine years ago) link
as a result of last minute sickies, I'd to miss bullshit training this morning to do actual work. failure to show due remorse during a dressing down session led to my immediate manager getting a fit of the giggles in front of the dressing-downer, who had accused me of "grinning like a Cheshire shark" on his way out of the door in a huff.
― zero content albums (darraghmac), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 13:39 (nine years ago) link
like I didn't even give any guff tbf I just had to grin or burst
― zero content albums (darraghmac), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 13:42 (nine years ago) link
Cheshire shark!
I came here b/c even though this isn't about my co-worker, it's about someone's co-worker. I'm reviewing a couple years' worth of a company's emails, in many of which a manager at global corporation uses exclamation marks at the end of literally every single sentence. (Except those where he doesn't use any punctuation at all.) Usually only one exclamation mark, but here and there two or three (for emphasis, I guess).
Did I already post about this? It's been on my mind so much the past couple of months that I don't know if I've ever mentioned it or if it's all I talk about.
― Je55e, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 18:43 (nine years ago) link
Elaine Benes would approve
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyRLFWF2v_U
― Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 18:46 (nine years ago) link
although it really doesn't sound so bad. I had a co-worker who ended every sentence with at least one or two question marks.
― Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 18:47 (nine years ago) link
We had a client who did that! It was terrible, especially since that's also how she sounded on the phone.
― Je55e, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:00 (nine years ago) link
My Mexican relatives often put two question marks at the ends of sentences in emails and IMs but they don't use the leading "¿" I wonder if the 2nd ? is a substitution for ¿ ?
― Je55e, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:02 (nine years ago) link
it really doesn't sound so bad
not so bad?? but stupid and annoying? no??
― Aimless, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:06 (nine years ago) link
I'm reviewing a couple years' worth of a company's emails, in many of which a manager at global corporation uses exclamation marks at the end of literally every single sentence.
Does the global corporation make peppermint bath soap?
― pplains, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:11 (nine years ago) link
OMG I used to have this dictator boss who would shriek if we sent outside e-mails that were non-conformist in any way. Exclamation points are appropriate in some corporate settings, I guess. My brother used to work for a Famous Soap Maker, you sort of have to adopt the products like you joined a new church.
I work in the burbs now after urban jobs my whole life. It's, um, different. Like I feel like I'm living and working in a cornfield different. I hope to make a graceful exit some day. It's taught me a lot about unfairness - like how urban students have the deck stacked against them, when they are sophisticated in so many ways that aren't valued. I miss the city terribly. The young folks are great but some of the older folks are resolutely un-urban and dull.
― Opus Gai (I M Losted), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:34 (nine years ago) link
I'm living and working in a cornfield different
I liked when I thought "different" was an adjective modifying "cornfield," like it was a figure of speech. I shall arise and go to work in a cornfield different.
― Je55e, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 11:49 (nine years ago) link
cornfield difference sounds like a BoC song
― Gumbercules? I love that guy! (Trayce), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 12:18 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/SWktNSB.jpg
― pplains, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 13:51 (nine years ago) link
More exclamation marks: today I found a case online with exhibits including an email from a state labor commissioner to a lawyer. It reads in part:
Dear [attorney's name]I have bad news for you! We received your letter but the plaintiff has decided...
I have bad news for you! We received your letter but the plaintiff has decided...
bold-face in original
― Je55e, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 17:47 (nine years ago) link
Sitting outside in an area where people eat their lunch, guy puts a private phone conversation on speakers so he can keep shovelling food his gob - then carries on after he's finished eating. Conversation included lots of medical stuff about abcesses and 'the cancer was like a hard lump' and was very loud. I work with some weird people.
― The Count has shot himself (Tom D.), Friday, 3 October 2014 11:29 (nine years ago) link
We lost our lunch room due to too many staff now being employed here, have been given an outdoor eating area instead, which is 5m away from the designated smoking area
― ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 04:37 (nine years ago) link
Sounds like a passive way for management to whittle the staff back down to a lunchroom size.
― pplains, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 15:55 (nine years ago) link
So in the early spring our fundraising VP was unexpectedly let go. Strategic differences between his approach and what the CEO wanted. There was a 6 month search to bring in a new VP, during which time my Dept Dir was clearly recognized as The Person Running the Show.
The new VP arrived 90 days ago. There has been a quiet battle ever since between the new VP and my Dept Dir, during which time it became clear the new VP didn't understand what my data analysis department did, how we did it, or why it did any good.
Today, after a long morning meeting with the Dept Dir working out some data problems and a sudden and odd coda about my career path, my whole department was pulled into a meeting and told that the Dept Dir is "no longer with us, as of today."
I had to hold back a snort. They have no idea how badly they've just fucked themselves--the one person keeping this admittedly sluggish train on the rails has been kicked out the door as we head toward a cliff, and they act like they're gonna learn to conduct the thing before we go off the edge.
**job searching intensifies**
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 18:23 (nine years ago) link
Fairly new CIO calls an all hands department meeting, only to have their PA send an e-mail cancelling it half an hour before it's due to happen because the CIO apparently can't make it and has something more important to do than stand in a room with forty already pissed off people. Two weeks later, the same thing happens, only the cancellation e-mail arrives 3 minutes before the meeting.
― wackness unlimited (snoball), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link
That's shitty behaviour, although every suddenly cancelled meeting is like a little gift from the gods tbh. as long as you didn't come into the office specially.
― ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 23:32 (nine years ago) link
Itd be hilarious if that happened at my work, given they pay to fly my part of the team from melb to syd for all hands meetings!
― Gumbercules? I love that guy! (Trayce), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 23:50 (nine years ago) link
I'd be all "cool, free sydney holiday, woot"
meetings getting cancelled happens daily in my office. standard advertising procedure.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 9 October 2014 03:01 (nine years ago) link
ugh u guys
this is not a specifically 'coworker' post as much as general office lyfe
the company I worked for for 12 years was sold to a competitor in October. we had 3 month transition time leading up to that point, 2 months of which was not knowing if we were going to be rehired or what. Luckily i was rehired, they kept abt 40 of us which was way more than we expected.
anyway. I work in sales. we were all given 'training' on their computer system...except for most of us, training was 2 days of general overview a month before we went live. there was no pre-planning to figure out how large accounts are currently handled, and how they can be handled similarly in their system...it was pretty much radio silence until day 1 of new company, where we suddenly learned that oh shit we can't do aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanything
the old company's computer system seemed sluggish and dated to us; but this new situation is like we've all been beamed back to 1985 and someone's going to come by and give us a stack of order pads. they hand-key EVERYTHING. if anything fucks up with a huge order for hundreds of accounts, pretty much the only fix they have is oh go in to each order line by line and cancel the item by hand
first two weeks were me every day wondering 'ok what am I even doing here, this SUCKS'. I don't think I've ever had a more stressful time in my life than the last 3 weeks.
today was the first day where sun actually came out from behind the clouds & got my head somewhat above water. but there are a lot of people struggling with it still, who are a lot further behind than me in at least accepting what they can and can't do
the thing that I am seeing a lot psychologically is the difference between coworkers who treat a problem as someone else's to fix, and the people who treat a problem as their own and try to master it. I talked to two people today at length and both them were like 'I DONT' CARE WHY IT WON'T WORK WHY CAN'T YOU JUST FIX IT' which to me just seems so incredibly exhausting & a general bummer
anyway, ~random thoughts~
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 October 2014 03:05 (nine years ago) link
ok, that sounds genuinely AWFUL--commiserations, vg
― ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Friday, 17 October 2014 03:57 (nine years ago) link
Not even close to being as severe as that, but we switched to a gmail-based email system last month.
Now - Richard Nixon was president when I was born. I'm not trying to be lol @ old people here. But for the love of God, we had a training session and I heard the words "Can you run through composing an email?" I also heard "But what if I don't know the name of who I'm searching for? On Outlook, at least I can scroll though it and browse." And "So the folders are labels? Then are those label labels on the side there?"
In my department, all I hear is how "stupid" the new system is. Co-workers complain to the .. ceiling tiles? ... about how they just wish the emails would show up individually instead of in a "conversation". One employee has just given up – I hear her on the phone telling contacts that she didn't get the email from them because the new system ate it and made it disappear.
IT IS FUCKING GMAIL. Which in itself is just a smoother version of HOTMAIL. It's just like your Outlook or Mail except it's operating out of a browser. Now, we can have a conversation about applications like Thunderbird versus having to use a browser, but IT'S THE SAME FORMAT, FOR ALL INTENTS & PURPOSES. Composing a gmail is basically THE SAME. You can be insane and "browse" your entire archive by hitting the arrow buttons! You can adjust the settings to your own personal modification INCLUDING changing the format from conversation to individual emails!
And nothing just "disappears". I wish more things did "disappear." I would wager ... at least $35 that those vanishing missives are in those weird PROMOTIONS or SOCIAL tabs that I admit aren't the most intuitive things in the world, but I AT LEAST CHECK EVERY ONCE IN AWHILE LIKE I DID WITH THE SPAM FOLDER ON THE OLD SYSTEM.
Hearing my co-workers complain about the despairing complexities of GMAIL - A WEB-BASED SOFTWARE THAT'S BEEN AROUND SINCE 2004 for the last month combined with their frequently repeated opinions of the upcoming election WHICH I AGREE WITH FOR THE MOST PART are driving me crazy.
The last time I wore ear plugs at a job was in college when I worked at the hose clamp factory. That changed a few weeks ago.
― pplains, Friday, 17 October 2014 04:12 (nine years ago) link
lol - we have that too!
they have us temporarily on the outlook web app until we move to our new building
the amount of people who are flipping out over it is kind of O_o
no one is a fan of 'conversations' apparently
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 October 2014 04:46 (nine years ago) link
I don't like them either, but the neat thing about accepting change is that there are usually ways you can change that too.
― pplains, Friday, 17 October 2014 04:52 (nine years ago) link
yup
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 October 2014 04:53 (nine years ago) link
But yeah. I understand the frustration, but waiting around for someone to fix it is even worse.
One guy would make a scene about his "monitor going black" and call up the art guy instead of I.T. It was very likely his putting the cursor in a hot corner and going into sleep mode, but I sure as hell wasn't going to say anything. Learned my own lesson from that art guy.
― pplains, Friday, 17 October 2014 05:19 (nine years ago) link
like Ed Harris says in Apollo 13
WORK THE PROBLEM, PEOPLE
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 October 2014 05:23 (nine years ago) link
vg ilu rn
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 17 October 2014 07:08 (nine years ago) link
You can switch off 'conversation' view in gmail, can't you?
― kinder, Friday, 17 October 2014 12:33 (nine years ago) link
Oh u said that already
― kinder, Friday, 17 October 2014 12:34 (nine years ago) link