the scottish independence referendum

There's only about 15 people in Clackmannanshire.

Kind of remember very first 1992 election results backing up the exit polls... that's what I'm clinging on to, for excitement.

Ooft Glasgow turnout 75%. That and Dundee is a big blow to Yes

75 is huge for a city that's regularly under 40% tbh.
Amazing numbers all round when 75+ is being described as low. Several areas are over 90!

Just don't blame immigrants and ethnic communities if the Yes loses, that soured Quebec politics for years.

Those communities were polling high Yes iirc

these comparisons to normal general election turnouts aren't that instructive given the gravity of this vote and how close it is
25% of people in glasgow didn't vote on which country they want to be in

compared to say 6.48% in the 1995 quebec referendum

There's only about 15 people in Clackmannanshire.

― I misuse (onimo), Friday, September 19, 2014 2:47 AM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes, but from ten of them it wasn't odd to expect them voting yes.

This stinks. I want my money back.

I hate democracy.

It's the worst when it doesn't go my way iirc

2 of 32 councils declared.

not exactly the famed scottish fighting spirit you lot.

A disgrace.

Two's a trend though, and we're nowhere near something too close to call.

And I'm not even Scottish (though I've probably been in Clacks more than anyone here).

Xp

The two councils voting No were expected Nos - albeit more voting No than expected according to Alba's link.

Really, we need to wait for an early, large, Yes-oriented council result, e.g. North Lanarkshire, which should come soonish.

If e.g. the North Lanarkshire results are not more Yes than expected, or even not Yes overall, then it's time for bed.

Rigged!

Xp Clacks wasn't an expected no tbh

Remember Shetland is the most No of them all...

games a bogey

Xp Clacks wasn't an expected no tbh

I have no idea tbh. Couldn't even tell you where Clackmannanshire is. Getting all my ideas about this kind of thing from this image in Alba's link:

http://www.ueapolitics.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/difference_plot.png

Not seen that before, where's it from? It's yer typical lower working class, low income, high unemployment, SNP leaning county one'd expect a yes vote from. But perhaps the no vote wasn't represented enough in the polls etc.

http://www.ueapolitics.org/2014/09/16/cut-keep-guide-indyref-night/

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Here is John Harris at the Falkirk count, which should declare soon.

are other councils going to announce in gaelic besides the outer hebrides?

so that was my first encounter with the UKIP

what was?

fat dude on BBC.

David Coburn

Dundee 57% yes.

Now 49.1% yes, 51.9% no total.

Probably gonna end up no anyway, but there you go.

Going to finish my whiskey and head to bed.

whisky... oops

West Dunbartonshire 54% yes.

Now 49.8% yes, 50.2% no total.

Midlothian 44% yes.

Now 49% yes, 51% no total.

Added 20 minutes' worth of whisky to the glass.

East Lothian... expect a no here.

Real thumping win for a no for EL there.

So is Stirling...

60-40 for a no!

East Lothian 38% yes.

Stirling 40%. Pretty severe no there.

Now 47% yes, 53% no total.

Don't think I can go back to sleep just yet, want to see either Glasgow or Edinburgh, or both.

If Falkirk doesn't go yes I'm going to bed for real.

It hasn't..

Falkirk 47% yes.

Now 47% yes, 53% no total.

Fucking silent majority can cut all that clapping out

Disappointed with this. Would've liked Yes to be ahead at least for a moment.

What makes people vote no? Is it down to money and fear?

It was down to 1000 votes for a bit.

I like it better when they give the reasons for rejections before the votes.

Fear, lack of a perceived plan of what day hundred of an independent Scotland would look like never mind day one, and then the devo plus/max, etc. buying some of the votes out...

Yeah the returning officers - like this one - should be talking about rejection votes beforehand!

What makes people vote no? Is it down to money and fear?

― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, September 18, 2014 11:24 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

economic certainty usually wins.