the scottish independence referendum

What makes people vote no? Is it down to money and fear?

It was down to 1000 votes for a bit.

I like it better when they give the reasons for rejections before the votes.

Fear, lack of a perceived plan of what day hundred of an independent Scotland would look like never mind day one, and then the devo plus/max, etc. buying some of the votes out...

Yeah the returning officers - like this one - should be talking about rejection votes beforehand!

What makes people vote no? Is it down to money and fear?

― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, September 18, 2014 11:24 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

economic certainty usually wins.

If they can't take Angus, they can't take fuck-all. Not sure they'll get Glasgow at this rate.

It is almost a pity the Vow came so late, because we'll never really know if No were voting for the status quo or devo+

No destroys in Dumfries...but they are the one area with a Tory.

E Renfrewshire and E Dumbartonshire (turnout at 91%) are NO too.

Also a shit idea for a follow-up poll: ITV (PIE chart) vs BBC (BAR chart).

Glasgow coming

The ITV analyst finally calls it for NO (he was really keeping up the 'this could be on a knife edge' for a little while)

At this rate the margin will be so wide Westminster will go right back to sleep.

Westminster will need to pay the cost to keep this together...lots of sleepless nights to come as they hash the detail for this.

North Lanarkshire votes yes by 5k or so..

No I think has won in South

Right, TV turned off, going to bed a peasant in a peasant land.

Big win for the NO in the south

and another thumping win for the 'NO' in Perth..

Glasgow then..

only 75% turnout!

Big win for YES!

I mean 53-47...

Not a big enough margin so in the end its comfortable.

Glasgow is ILX land...non-shockah there.

Comfortable for the NO, not enough of a margin to make a difference.

Urban areas are more 'anarchic' and out of step with the rest of a country bah humbug...

East Ayrshire also voted NO, and that is an area with a massive working class area. YES were expected to take it...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bx3iwioCYAE3Y-C.jpg

Hardeep Kohli (in the BBC studio) giving a pretty angry speech: nothing changes, food banks go on, 'project fear' wins, shit getting real at 5am..

so weird that an independent Scotland was going to remain a monarchy under QEII

How is there no meaningful Republican movement in the UK?

Well, this has been absolutely delicious. Great to know that the Scottish people aren't thick, also the tears of some of the anti-English rhetoric I've been noticing from bellend nationalists on Facebook has never tasted sweeter. Congratulations, Scotland!

*the tears of those spouting some of the anti-English rhetoric

The Capital City of Scotland must surely vote yes?

lol, no.

Also, get a move on Fife.

http://machotrouts.tumblr.com/post/97748597900/morihaventgotshitonme
hmmm grindr predicted the edinburgh result

Fife were obviously holding out for the glory announcement.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yPYZpwSpKmA

scottish friends heartbroken everywhere :(

is what happened to the québec independence movement likely to happen here?

if there is going to be an english parliament, ukip presence and tory control is going to be likely. I think scotland might balk at being in a union with that, and independence movement will continue.

quite disappointing result, am sad for scotland

hope that resolution of the westlothian issue - possibly indeed by the creation of an english parliament - would involve PR instead of it just being the english subset of already elected MPs deciding on things

cos the latter would be grim indeed, especially considering the coming era of national boris

The Glasgow result chimed with my impression of the city - Yes posters and stickers and badges everywhere you went, barely any BetterTogether presence - but the tide of good feeling in the city, passing from the Games to the optimism of the Yes campaign, has meant living in a happy bubble, with not much sense of what the rest of the country is feeling. So I'm surprised by the current 55%-45% margin, larger than I thought it would be.

East Ayrshire also voted NO, and that is an area with a massive working class area. YES were expected to take it...

― xyzzzz__, Friday, 19 September 2014 05:12 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think "We Are The People" outweighs "working class" in Ayrshire.

Redwood on the radio this morning pointing out there's no need to give Scotland increased powers because they overwhelmingly voted for the status quo.

Bait and switch

redwood is vile, welcome back to britain my scottish chums

http://www.rtlnieuws.nl/sites/default/files/styles/ipad_fullscreen/public/content/images/2014/09/19/AFP-Schotalnd%20opluchting.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbO0GcdkYa4

double LP, we're all excited

otm

I think "We Are The People" outweighs "working class" in Ayrshire.

Vile place. So what are we saying here, the middle classes scuppered it?