He just films everything with a green screen in back, just in case.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 20 September 2014 11:50 (nine years ago) link
I'm pretty good at not watching violent scenes and sensing when they're about to happen, so I haven't seen the lakeside scene but saw the expression on the face of my date watching it. Felt like we'd seen two different movies afterwards.
Fincher knowing the Bay Area so well and having so many emotional ties to its geography seems like a central part of why this works so well.
― the man with the black wigs (Eazy), Saturday, 20 September 2014 14:30 (nine years ago) link
Every time this thread gets resurrected, I end up watching the film again.
weren't they on their first or second date?
Couldn't have been: early in the clip above, the girls says "We were here last spring, remember?"
― clemenza, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 22:44 (nine years ago) link
IRL hadn't they already broken up and were just hanging out as friends?
― A solid little house from the p-funk boys (I am using your worlds), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 07:19 (nine years ago) link
and twat
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 10:52 (nine years ago) link
Will he ever make a better movie than this?
― Re-Make/Re-Model, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 12:17 (nine years ago) link
I don't know
― you'll never guac amole (wins), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 12:18 (nine years ago) link
he has
goddamn me for this latest revive btw
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 12:24 (nine years ago) link
I watched the girl with &c the other day, it was rubbish. So was the Swedish one tho
― you'll never guac amole (wins), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 12:27 (nine years ago) link
probably not
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 16:09 (nine years ago) link
he's doing Gone Girl which could really go either way, has potential for something interesting but won't rival Zodiac
― Brio2, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 16:18 (nine years ago) link
>:(
Gyllenhaal is apparently in town filming Zodiac 2, a followup to the 2007 Zodiac telling the story of a serial killer who stalked San Francisco residents.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 3 December 2015 18:49 (eight years ago) link
that's a joke, right?
never has the Electric Boogaloo chestnut been more badly needed
― Sancho Panzer (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 December 2015 18:50 (eight years ago) link
zodiac harder
― hand of jehuty and the blowfish (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 3 December 2015 21:41 (eight years ago) link
2 Zod 2 Iac
― Boz Scaggs was Adele back in 1976 (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 3 December 2015 21:54 (eight years ago) link
2odiac
― Karl Rove Knausgård (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 3 December 2015 21:55 (eight years ago) link
'Ac is Back
― kevin smith what a bro (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 3 December 2015 21:59 (eight years ago) link
The Zodiackening
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 4 December 2015 04:32 (eight years ago) link
Thread:https://twitter.com/RealGDT/status/838415427424387072
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 06:54 (seven years ago) link
good stuff. GDT otm
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 07:00 (seven years ago) link
missing this important tweet
Guillermo del ToroVerified @RealGDTZodiac is a "One Sock Movie" meaning: you're getting dressed- you catch it on TV and sit down (one sock in hand) and watch it until the end.
― Number None, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 07:25 (seven years ago) link
It's a one sock movie alright. For wankers.
― The Perks of Being a Wall St R (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 08:21 (seven years ago) link
so rong it makes me think you're in on this somehow
― barry snappleton (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 09:22 (seven years ago) link
it's a one sock movie alright. for transfemoral amputees.
― frankie r. failson (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 09:28 (seven years ago) link
It was just something to say on a Tuesday morning.
But I found this a dull, grey movie.
― The Perks of Being a Wall St R (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 10:42 (seven years ago) link
opening shot alone says no
― barry snappleton (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 11:31 (seven years ago) link
sorry, pointless argument, something to say on a Tuesday morning
― barry snappleton (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 11:37 (seven years ago) link
Tuesday morning needs its own thread
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 11:38 (seven years ago) link
That's the spare truth right there
― The Perks of Being a Wall St R (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 11:47 (seven years ago) link
not to come across all cap'n save-a-dullard but i think there is a deliberate dullness to much of the back half of zodiac that contributes hugely to the movie - after the immaculately staged and shot murders at the beginning, the characters start to unravel and get tied up in endless, frustrating miniutiae.
then it's punctuated occasionally with a new zodiac letter or the totally magnetic interview with arthur lee allen, where the cops know they're within inches of getting their guy... and they don't. investigations are tough and boring and sometimes massively exciting and there are very few movies which communicate that as clearly as zodiac does
― frankie r. failson (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 11:56 (seven years ago) link
for real, I think that's all otm and I think it's a great movie but I'm not in the business of selling it to the unconverted
― barry snappleton (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 12:07 (seven years ago) link
i am - i get a twix every time someone buys a special edition blu-ray on my recommendation
― frankie r. failson (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 12:12 (seven years ago) link
What if I pronounce your username with emphasis on the first syllables, do they still know where to send the twix
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 12:15 (seven years ago) link
I did get that at the time, and def I get that part of the point is to bring us as participants in the frustration and to remove the omniscient view, which is admirable and something that I'd advocate for in plenty of less intelligent efforts.
Interesting that there always seems to be an insistence of repeat viewings for this one, I've seen it repped hard enough by the right people that I might do that.
― The Perks of Being a Wall St R (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 12:17 (seven years ago) link
i get two twixes on those occasions iirc xp
― frankie r. failson (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 12:32 (seven years ago) link
the other thing that i love about zodiac (which yeah i've seen multiple times and i think it does reward repeat viewing) is how effortlessly it lays out a massively complicated case and sticks to the facts about the murders and the investigation. it does take a few liberties with characters here and there iirc, but otherwise it's a masterclass in how to make a movie based on real events.
― frankie r. failson (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 12:49 (seven years ago) link
i'm a sucker for procedural movies tho, i wanted arrival to be like 185 minutes of amy adams writing on a whiteboard
― frankie r. failson (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 12:51 (seven years ago) link
This movie and Thin Red Line are two (relatively) recent masterpieces that yeah I will start watching from any point.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 12:53 (seven years ago) link
OTM, this scene is so great. Five and a half minutes of people sitting at a table talking, and it's riveting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D13q-2I62w
I especially like how he shoots the entire thing in standard masters and alternating shot/reverse shot takes of Allen and each detective, until Allen starts talking about bloody knives, at which point we get three Jonathan Demme-style closeups of each detective staring right into the camera.
― Lauren Schumer Donor (Phil D.), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 13:52 (seven years ago) link
There's also a couple of weird moments where he violates the 180-degree line and places Elias Koteas on the "wrong" side of the screen in relation to both Allen and to Edwards/Ruffalo.
― Lauren Schumer Donor (Phil D.), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 13:53 (seven years ago) link
The Thin Red Line is a really good comparison i think because both movies have this loose and open structure with a number of discrete episodes which makes them they feel longer than they really are. Zodiac in particular has a kind of entropy to its narrative that i find fascinating.
― ryan, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 14:05 (seven years ago) link
no country for old men kinda has the same hypnotic one-sock feeling as zodiac for me
― frankie r. failson (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 14:36 (seven years ago) link
tarkovsky's stalker, too
― frankie r. failson (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 14:37 (seven years ago) link
how many twix can you fit in one sock
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 14:38 (seven years ago) link
two twix one sock
― barry snappleton (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 14:38 (seven years ago) link
Zodiac in particular has a kind of entropy to its narrative that i find fascinating.
entropy's a great description, yeah - after the spin-up of the early scenes the sense of everyone just losing their personal and collective momentum over the course of the intervening years is pretty unique
― frankie r. failson (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 14:43 (seven years ago) link
trainer sock: eightregular ankle sock: 17knee-ish length athletic sock: 37
these are single-twix packets, obv
― frankie r. failson (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 14:45 (seven years ago) link
There are a couple other prominent movies like this, like ... Vertigo, maybe? Where the initial plot driver ends and turns into something else entirely.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 14:51 (seven years ago) link
the scenes toward the end of Zodiac that seem to have dramatic tension, like the conversation in the film guy's basement, lean heavily on the viewer's anticipation that something is going to -- no that something has to happen. but nothing does, because the case never had definitive closure
― mh 😏, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 15:26 (seven years ago) link