xp
too much fat.
http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/dairy-and-egg-products/51/2
http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/dairy-and-egg-products/69/2
for double the amount of milk, you get way less fat and more protein
― ∞, Friday, 3 October 2014 02:14 (nine years ago) link
whoops, more fat, less protein
― ∞, Friday, 3 October 2014 02:15 (nine years ago) link
1 cup greek yogo has like 20g protein
― clouds, Friday, 3 October 2014 02:15 (nine years ago) link
dang
― lag∞n, Friday, 3 October 2014 02:15 (nine years ago) link
i luv mah yogourt
― ∞, Friday, 3 October 2014 02:16 (nine years ago) link
im not as enamored w strained yogurt as everyone else in the world, i like my yogurt regular mostly, used to make it, so much better fesh my lord, always have some going, just roll it over to the next batch, then i got off the yogurt for a while, but now im back on, but just store bought so far
― lag∞n, Friday, 3 October 2014 02:18 (nine years ago) link
don't you feel like it does wonders for regulating your digestive system, though?
it's like that activia commercial is really true
― ∞, Friday, 3 October 2014 02:21 (nine years ago) link
idk cant say ive noticed a difference
― lag∞n, Friday, 3 October 2014 02:22 (nine years ago) link
i am very into the whole concept of the human microbiome tho
― lag∞n, Friday, 3 October 2014 02:23 (nine years ago) link
its like one of my #1 interests
madonna has opinions on this matter. she hired this lady to analyse every single bacteria in her stomach and she's a big proponent of it.
i believe it, as well
― ∞, Friday, 3 October 2014 02:26 (nine years ago) link
theyre crazy powerful those lil guys in there
― lag∞n, Friday, 3 October 2014 02:28 (nine years ago) link
i just ate some yogurt
― lag∞n, Friday, 3 October 2014 02:50 (nine years ago) link
Does anyone have any opinions on/experience with intermittent fasting? I mean, does it actually do anything, or is it just another broscience fad? I kind of like the convenience of not having to bother with breakfast, and haven't really noticed any drop in energy doing all of my exercise fasted, but it seems like this has the potential to be a huge mistake. For what it's worth I'm trying to lose as much weight as possible (in a healthy way, I mean, not just starving myself) without worrying about gaining muscle for the time being- partly to make rock climbing and bodyweight workouts easier, but mostly because the last 18 months or so of concentrating mostly on weight training over cardio I've bulked up quite a bit more than is usual for me and it just feels weird and awkward.
― You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Friday, 3 October 2014 04:01 (nine years ago) link
back to protein for a minutei think moving up protein intake is about protein feeding muscle growth but also changing the ratio of macronutrients so protein makes up more of the piebecause protein / protein+fat isn't going to be stored as fat and will improve body composition
― dylannn, Friday, 3 October 2014 05:18 (nine years ago) link
treeship it's very interesting and educational to track your calories + macronutrient intake for a couple weeks. even if you don't continue you get an idea of what you are eating and you might be way off just eating based on instinct or thinking you were sorta under or sorta near maintenance calories.
― dylannn, Friday, 3 October 2014 05:21 (nine years ago) link
so much for the death of the nutrition nazis thread
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 3 October 2014 12:40 (nine years ago) link
Does anyone have any opinions on/experience with intermittent fasting?
I might be able to chime in here. I did a weight loss bet last year and dropped about 55 pounds in 4 months. Which was something I really needed to do anyway. Intermittant fasting feels faddish but it worked wonders for me; the whole "a good breakfast will fuel your entire day" is total BS for me, a good breakfast will make me hungry 2 hours later and I'll eat the same amount at lunch. And late night snacking never kept me full into the morning (as I would justify it to myself). Real simple for me, just eat between 12 PM and 8 PM...not too radical. Didn't mess with my energy levels or anything and I still do it most days now.
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Friday, 3 October 2014 13:03 (nine years ago) link
If you want to stay your size and gain strength, do yoga. Seriously. Or look up ballet dancer exercises, i'm totally not shitting you. They work on gaining strength and lifting heavy while doing exercises (stretches/yoga) to keep their muscles long and lean. But that's a whole other level of crazy. One that I considered myself, though.
Can I just... So I am a known yoga Stan and I can confirm that as far as swimsuit season goes nothing does better for me than a serious vinyasa class 5x/week + maybe some boxing.
BUT the notion that any kind of exercise gives you "long/lean" muscles is some dancechick broscience. What gives you long muscles is genetics and what gives you lean muscles is eating less.
The right kind of yoga will def get you lean tho and give you more range of motion everywhere which feels fucking awesome fwiw.
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Friday, 3 October 2014 18:28 (nine years ago) link
hmmm, maybe that's the way to go: yoga + running or cardio + not having too many refined carbs, french fries, or pints of beer. i should take advantage of the fitness classes while i still have access to the university gym and i know they have yoga there.
― Treeship, Friday, 3 October 2014 18:36 (nine years ago) link
maybe like, push ups too.
do you have some aversion to weights? it's not like you're instantly going to look like kai greene from doing a barbell routine three days a week dude. like, feel free to do yoga or whatever but you can achieve the same thing you're trying to do with like stronglifts or some other routine.
― clouds, Friday, 3 October 2014 19:16 (nine years ago) link
the gymbros you see with shirts that say "YOKED" or sth are in there 5 days a week and are eating planetary amounts of calories. lifting heavy weights will not necc make you look like that.
― clouds, Friday, 3 October 2014 19:18 (nine years ago) link
I'm pretty sure studies show that even letting your gaze linger on a barbell for a moment too long is the medical equivalent of injecting all the steroids on earth into your body.
― 💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Friday, 3 October 2014 19:22 (nine years ago) link
Yes, it's done wonders for me. There's an ebook floating around called 'Eat. Stop. Eat.' by Brad Pilon that explains all the science and benefits of IT. I started with the leangains approach (short eating window) and it was good. I then tried a full 24 hour fast and it was even better. I do it now (on Sundays) and lift heavy M,W,F and am in the best shape of my life at 35.
Mark Sisson did a very informative series of posts on his blog, too. http://www.marksdailyapple.com/health-benefits-of-intermittent-fasting/#axzz3F771s281
It's also incredible how sharp your mind gets in the last 4 hours of a 24 hour fast. Good creative flow and clarity.
― viacom dios, Friday, 3 October 2014 19:59 (nine years ago) link
I think when it comes to getting fit there's so much information out there and a lot of it is good, but for your own sanity I would just read the most popular posts on LeanGains and so from there. the dude's demeanor was kind of a turn off for me at first but he really, really does know what he's talking about
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Friday, 3 October 2014 20:06 (nine years ago) link
i do al lthree, run, lift, yoga. yoga and lifting are amazing together for me bc it makes my connective / breathing / moving body catch up to the mass if that makes any real sense at all plus i have a weak core so it really tightens my lifts helps me move correctly keep my spine extended and not injure myself. also i never was athletic at all yoga helps with that. p sure some ashtanga classes + eating heartily would address your goals treesh but just start something start small experiment imo. i add in weights cuz i like looking bigger it's motivational people call me 'sir' and stuff h/t to patriarchy.
― mattresslessness, Friday, 3 October 2014 20:29 (nine years ago) link
sort of want to say people who do weights for everything are a little deluded imo. like i was reading some ridiculous exercise science-y article about getting your calves swole and the solution was to do this very awkward power-calve-jump move on a giant calve machine and it's like come on just run up a hill meathead.
― mattresslessness, Friday, 3 October 2014 20:38 (nine years ago) link
tbf that first ashtanga class will snap yr head back
(unless they're super-orthodox in which case you'll be excused after 15 minutes)
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Friday, 3 October 2014 20:49 (nine years ago) link
intermittent fasting is a fascinating idea but man i'm getting culty fake science vibes from people talking abt (no offense, if that's possible...)
― goole, Friday, 3 October 2014 20:53 (nine years ago) link
― mattresslessness, Friday, October 3, 2014 4:38 PM (11 minutes ago)
lol! yeah i just do the main lifts don't really do any accessory work - squats, deadlift,bench press,overhead press and some upright rows .
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 3 October 2014 20:53 (nine years ago) link
running up hills is fine if u want strong-ass calves that can do things but all that cardio will set u back
if u want meat cantaloupes back there u gotta lift bro
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Friday, 3 October 2014 21:00 (nine years ago) link
oh yeah should have said maybe a beginning power class or something. i do a less demanding non strict ashtanga-based power class and it kicks my ass i still lose it towards the end though no one cares.
xp that is true but they look weeeird imo
― mattresslessness, Friday, 3 October 2014 21:02 (nine years ago) link
oh yeah - ashtanga-based is a whole other thing. much easier to find and will kick your ass just fine.
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Friday, 3 October 2014 21:11 (nine years ago) link
more bruce springsteen less bruce lee
― mattresslessness, Friday, 3 October 2014 21:15 (nine years ago) link
pretty sure there's been some recent Science about fasting that says it's a Good Thing when done correctly but, you know, idk
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 3 October 2014 22:14 (nine years ago) link
The problems I've heard about with IF are kind of like those with any other long-term calorie restriction - decline in libido, etc..
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 3 October 2014 22:18 (nine years ago) link
There's one thing I've run into my first week doing IF that seems like a positive development. I'm still having the same difficulty as people upthread getting "enough" protein (1g/lb bodyweight seems insane), but since I'm concentrating on getting that first in a shorter amount of time, and eating a big post-workout meal first since I always do my major exercise for the day (weights, cardio, whatever) right at the end of my fasting period, I'm having actual difficulty eating up to my target calories because I'm so damn full.
― You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Friday, 3 October 2014 23:00 (nine years ago) link
http://www.leangains.com/2010/10/top-ten-fasting-myths-debunked.html
this is a good article on the subject. I agree its a little culty but the fact that you don't have to buy anything makes it seem more legit (plus, it worked wonders for me)
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Saturday, 4 October 2014 00:46 (nine years ago) link
dancechick broscience
lol
― lag∞n, Saturday, 4 October 2014 13:29 (nine years ago) link
leaving the house in the morning without eating = HAHAHA
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 4 October 2014 14:07 (nine years ago) link
yeah i'm a fainter. i might as well just go straight to the hospital before i try that.
― flatizza (harbl), Saturday, 4 October 2014 14:48 (nine years ago) link
i actually have fainted from not eating (not since hs tho and it only happened once)
― clouds, Saturday, 4 October 2014 22:28 (nine years ago) link
on hour 22 of a 24 hour fast...this ain't bad
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Saturday, 4 October 2014 23:32 (nine years ago) link
ok so today i did the first day of "stronglifts", which is 5x5 squats, 5x5 bench, 5x5 barbell rows. in two days i will do 5x5 squats, 5x5 overhead press, 5x5 deadlift, and then in two days after that i'll go back to the first one.
this seems doable for 10-12 weeks. add this to my cardio and running and i think i'll get a more balanced physique. i'm afraid of my quads getting too big bc the program is so squat focused and i wear skinny jeans, but i agree with what i have read that squats are a good "full body" exercise. overall i like how this program is compound rather than isolation exercises. overdeveloping certain muscles seems scary to me.
― Treeship, Sunday, 5 October 2014 00:37 (nine years ago) link
someone either wears skinny jeans or gets sw0le. there's no in between. the trick is to find out which one you are and be that.
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Sunday, 5 October 2014 01:25 (nine years ago) link
what is going to make you a better person? having huge thighs or wearing skinny jeans? this is a no brainer, treesh
― flatizza (harbl), Sunday, 5 October 2014 01:27 (nine years ago) link
which reminds me -- i need new pants.
― clouds, Sunday, 5 October 2014 01:39 (nine years ago) link
i have huge powerful thighs so i dont squat because i dont think stylish pants will fit me anymore
― lag∞n, Sunday, 5 October 2014 02:38 (nine years ago) link
i relate to this article http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/02/12/sports/olympics/chasing-gold-and-jeans-that-fit.html
― lag∞n, Sunday, 5 October 2014 02:42 (nine years ago) link